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Shadow_Ferret
07-04-2008, 08:23 PM
I have a question about use of superhero names in your story. Are names copyrighted? Do I need to acquire permission from the comics company?
Here's my paragraph:
Superman. Now there was an ambitious man. No one forced him to be the hero of Metropolis, he chose to do it. He chose to take on the responsibility of saving the world.
For context, here are the next three paragraphs:
The same can be said for anyone who becomes President or some other leader. They have drive, ambition, and ego.
On the other hand, I had no such ambitions. I would have been perfectly happy living a life of obscurity, boredom, and ease. In fact, my dream job was to be retired. Even as a child while my friends wanted to be doctors or lawyers or firemen, I always thought past that to what I’d do the day I retired.
That was before Zeus called me into his office.
Anyway, the Superman reference, do I need to contact DC for permission?
Thanks.
maestrowork
07-04-2008, 08:26 PM
They're trademarked. You most likely would need permission if it's a character.
Now, if you're just mentioning it as in: "What do you think you are, Superman?" he said -- then I think it's okay. It's a pop culture reference.
So in your case, you don't need permission.
Prozyan
07-04-2008, 08:31 PM
Absolutely not within that context.
Now if Superman actually shows up later on, you might have some problems :D
IceCreamEmpress
07-04-2008, 10:03 PM
No, you can discuss Superman/Mickey Mouse/Indiana Jones just as you can discuss Coca-Cola/Disneyworld/Toyota.
amber_grosjean
07-04-2008, 11:51 PM
As long as you are saying something good about the character, I don't think there would be a problem about mentioning another book's character or a character from a movie. Some names are copyrighted so I've heard like that race car driver, can't remember his name at the top of my head. His name couldn't be used other than an actual person's name I guess. I argued with a friend over that one lol.
You can always send a letter to the comic book and discuss it with them just in case but I don't see where there would be a problem with using the name in that text. Like I said, nothing bad was said. If anything, you'd be promoting the movie lol.
Amber
Prozyan
07-05-2008, 12:00 AM
You can't copyright names. Trademark, yes, copyright, no.
Jcomp
07-05-2008, 12:01 AM
As the others have said, you don't need permission in that context. I just wanted to add...
In fact, my dream job was to be retired. Even as a child while my friends wanted to be doctors or lawyers or firemen, I always thought past that to what I’d do the day I retired.
...I really like those lines. Interesting character.
Gillhoughly
07-05-2008, 12:31 AM
Here's the long answer on this point:
http://www.publaw.com/fairusetrade.html
The short answer is yes, you may use Superman with a capital "s". So long as he doesn't appear as a character, you're fine.
Other trademark names need to be capitalized, too, like Kleenex, Rollerblades, and Coke.
Alternatives are tissues, in-line skates, and soda.
blacbird
07-05-2008, 12:36 AM
You can't copyright names. Trademark, yes, copyright, no.
And remember also that a trademark protects a given name used in a specified manner. Dove soap and Dove ice cream bars are both trademark-protected names, but have no relation to one another and do not impinge on each other's product.
caw
James D. Macdonald
07-05-2008, 01:07 AM
But when Apple computers started playing music Apple Records got all shirty.
blacbird
07-05-2008, 01:15 AM
But when Apple computers started playing music Apple Records got all shirty.
Yeah. Ain't the legal system fun, though. Actually, that Apple vs. Apple spat started even earlier, didn't it?
caw
amber_grosjean
07-05-2008, 11:06 AM
Ok I was wrong...the race car driver had his name trademarked.
My friend argued that by law no one could use that name for their children.....I argued that the man has no right to say who can name their children even if its the same name. He uses his name on all his stuff like t-shirts......was it Dale Earnheart? I can't remember lol. I'm not a racing fan lol. Sorry, I thought he had it copyrighted, it was trademarked which is totally different.
Amber
WriteKnight
07-05-2008, 07:50 PM
The Apple dispute goes back to when Apple Computers/Corp first appeared. Their name and logo was a blatant rip-off of the Beatles corp. There were even written documents produced that attested to how they were MEANT to be associated with the Beatles... bad idea.
That fight 'settled' when Apple Corp (the computer company) agreed to NEVER get in the music business. The same elements of trademark law that keep Dove Soap and Dove Bars from being mistaken as competitors. Or Delta Airlines and Delta Faucets. (no 'likelyhood of confusion')
But when Apple became a music distributor - well, the rest as they say is history.
And yes, the OP is fine referencing the pop characters - as far as the example goes.
Chris Grey
07-05-2008, 09:22 PM
The same elements of trademark law that keep Dove Soap and Dove Bars from being mistaken as competitors. Or Delta Airlines and Delta Faucets. (no 'likelyhood of confusion')
I don't know about your childhood, but I've had both kinds of Dove in my mouth.
WriteKnight
07-05-2008, 09:45 PM
I don't know about your childhood, but I've had both kinds of Dove in my mouth.
HAHAHAHA! Unfortunately, I'm a 'Lifebuoy' survivor myself. That and "Ivory".
David I
07-06-2008, 12:02 AM
As long as you are saying something good about the character, I don't think there would be a problem about mentioning another book's character or a character from a movie.
Even if you choose to say nasty things about them, you're okay.
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