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Team 2012
05-10-2009, 01:15 AM
squidpunk?
Shweta
05-10-2009, 02:57 AM
squidpunk?
Something of an in-joke among the New Weird...os. Inspired by the everything-punk names (steampunk, clockpunk, mannerpunk...) and I believe Jeff Vandermeer's cephalopod obsession.
http://www.squidpunk.com/
Team 2012
05-10-2009, 08:09 AM
Whoa. Knew we shouldn't have asked :-)
Does this fit with the whole squids in visual arts thing? Sometimes you get the impression every other artist on Gawker has suction cups and ink-squirting on the brain.
is it OK to just invent these things?
How about FunkPunk... superfly meets cyberpirates with a soundtrack by Bootsy and George Clinton.
Liosse de Velishaf
05-10-2009, 01:12 PM
You're free to call your own work whatever you want, and to apply labels to the work of others as indiscriminantly as you feel like. The key is getting others to accept those labels!
For one story, I made up a literary movement based on how I see my own work. It was great fun, but I doubt it will become accepted by others anywhere in the near--or far--future.
I might never be a fan of funkpunk, but I'd love to seee your take on it.
Team 2012
05-10-2009, 09:27 PM
Come on, now, share your invented lit movement with us. Sounds cool.
Shweta
05-11-2009, 02:55 AM
Moved these to a separate thread. Come one, come all, share your invented literary movements :)
badducky
05-11-2009, 03:22 AM
Whatever I invent, I suspect it will soon be separated to a new thread all to itself...
Shweta
05-11-2009, 03:40 AM
Should I change my title to splitter of threads? :D
Alan Yee
05-11-2009, 03:46 AM
Something of an in-joke among the New Weird...os. Inspired by the everything-punk names (steampunk, clockpunk, mannerpunk...) and I believe Jeff Vandermeer's cephalopod obsession.
http://www.squidpunk.com/
I love the review quoted on the cover. :D
badducky
05-11-2009, 04:28 AM
Should I change my title to splitter of threads? :D
I think it's odd that the subgenre of ultimate line-bending confusion seems to have the threads that quickly line up and divide everywhere.
And, yes, you should change your title.
My favorite invented literary movement is the rasta-religio poetry in Cat's Cradle.
Shweta
05-11-2009, 04:33 AM
I think it's odd that the subgenre of ultimate line-bending confusion seems to have the threads that quickly line up and divide everywhere.
Doesn't seem odd to me -- we have the conversations that go everywhere and derail inventively; splitting threads up is merely a way to let people not immediately in the conversation make some sense of 'em.
And, yes, you should change your title.
Yessir :D
My favorite invented literary movement is the rasta-religio poetry in Cat's Cradle.
I'm not sure I have one, though I think squidpunk is hilarious. Invented literary movements feel to me like they lack the depth and category weirdness of real ones, or that the writer's trying too hard.
Polenth
05-11-2009, 04:47 AM
Last time a discussion about the punks came up, I invented hamsterpunk. I've yet to get anything hamsterpunky published, but eventually the magazines will have to see it's the wave of the future!
badducky
05-11-2009, 06:32 AM
Polenth, I think you're actually talking about a subgenre of the latest subgenre: LOLPunk!
"It waz dark stormy night. Plz to have lazer eyez? *Dramatic Hamster Look* I iz hamstor, diztroyerz uf worldz!"
Kitty Pryde
05-11-2009, 06:51 AM
Polenth, I think you're actually talking about a subgenre of the latest subgenre: LOLPunk!
"It waz dark stormy night. Plz to have lazer eyez? *Dramatic Hamster Look* I iz hamstor, diztroyerz uf worldz!"
<rushes to the store and buys the anthology!>
badducky
05-11-2009, 06:56 AM
Cutest apocalypse, ever.
Polenth
05-11-2009, 07:36 AM
Polenth, I think you're actually talking about a subgenre of the latest subgenre: LOLPunk!
My hamsterpunk is a delicate blend of magical realism, steampunk and lol. It defies existing genre boundaries.
Dawnstorm
05-11-2009, 11:00 AM
Whatever I invent, I suspect it will soon be separated to a new thread all to itself...
Schizopunk, no doubt. Unlike all other genres, this one's defined by its propagation method.
archerjoe
05-11-2009, 04:08 PM
I got dibs on Joe Six-Punk :)
Team 2012
05-12-2009, 12:09 AM
I invented hamsterpunk.
Reinvented (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_Radioactive_Black_Belt_Hamsters)perhaps ?
IdiotsRUs
05-12-2009, 01:21 AM
Turnippunk.
Iz mine, u no hav!
I've been thinking about writing some badgerpunk--daschunds and badgers battling it out in a post-apocalyptic world with cybernetic implants...
badducky
05-12-2009, 03:44 AM
Isaac, I think you have to call it DachPunk!
Yes, that is a much better term for your variation on LOLPunk.
Polenth
05-12-2009, 05:24 AM
Reinvented (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_Radioactive_Black_Belt_Hamsters)perhaps ?
I don't see the steam punk or magical realism in that one! Though it has plenty of lol, I have to give it that.
I've been thinking about writing some badgerpunk--daschunds and badgers battling it out in a post-apocalyptic world with cybernetic implants...
I'd be rooting for the badgers.
I'd be rooting for the badgers.It's funny, everyone always says that. I wonder why? :D
Shweta
05-12-2009, 05:35 AM
Cutest apocalypse, ever.
I dunno, you haven't seen kawaiipunk yet.
Kitty Pryde
05-12-2009, 07:54 AM
Now, is kawaiipunk anything like tweepunk?
badducky
05-12-2009, 07:54 AM
Shweta, when you say that, you may not mean to sound threatening, but you actually really do sound like you're threatening me with a vision too terrible to comprehend.
As someone who desperately longs for his own dachshund, like the ones he grew up with, I cannot support any victory but the dachshund victory. Seriously, their little legs are soooooo cute....
As someone who desperately longs for his own dachshund, like the ones he grew up with, I cannot support any victory but the dachshund victory. Seriously, their little legs are soooooo cute....Well, i'm just about to write some badger/dachpunk, so we'll see who wins (though it is gonna be from a badger's POV)...
ETA: it shall be called dachspunk--seeing as dachs is german for badger.
Sharon Mock
05-12-2009, 10:49 AM
I've always been partial to the InfernoKrushers (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/006381.html), myself.
Alas, my WIP has inferno, but no krushing. I fear I am outgrowing the movement that once brought such warmth (and weight) to my heart...
Shweta
05-12-2009, 01:08 PM
Shweta, when you say that, you may not mean to sound threatening, but you actually really do sound like you're threatening me with a vision too terrible to comprehend.
Not mean to sound threatening?
I have pictures.
:D
I think if kawaiipunk is done too boringly it becomes tweepunk.
I has written some badger/dachpunk:
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141633
Higgins
05-13-2009, 08:17 PM
I has written some badger/dachpunk:
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141633
I've always thought that Punkpunk sounded intriguing. You know, punks who are punks, but in especially punkterrific ways! Very cool, but 30 years out of date.
I guess that makes them Goths. Okay, 30 years out of date but cynically mindful of the stylistic lag in their coolness.
Liosse de Velishaf
05-13-2009, 09:18 PM
Invented literary movements feel to me like they lack the depth and category weirdness of real ones, or that the writer's trying too hard.
That depends on what you back it up with, doesn't it? I mean, no writer can be prolific or diverse enough to back up an entire invented literary movement all on their own. And who would spend the time, when much of that back-up material might be otherwise useless?
The real draw for me is inter-existence. I's sure there's an actual term for it, though I can't think of it. Edit: I suppose parts of this concept could be put under the heading of matafictional elements... though not all. I mean that several of my stories make references to each other. Connections in content. For instance, in one story, I based then structure of an example of a group similar to Vinge's AR "belief circles" off of the magic system in another story I was working on. Vinge himself refrences his "Deepness" series in rainbos End. I also created an entire anime series for a story, which is a complete story in itself. A lot of fiction tries to build itself up without keeping in mind its contemporaries. I thought it would be fun to come up with a group of complete inter-related stories that reference each other, without marking any one of them as the basis of the others. As in, each is presented as reality within its own context, but fiction within the others. I have another story that, when I mention literature in it, I've actually written that literature. A lot of fantasy and sci-fi stories enjoy having chapter page references to the written word of that reality, but in several of my stories, the referenced texts are actuallty written out in their entirety.
But I digress. My real point here is that I created more than one complete story that would fall within the invented literary movement. They follow the general structure of the movement--though I tried not to be too formulaic in the relationships. And they get referenced in the story for which the movement was created. And that story itself is created to be an example of the literary movement it contains. Of course, this goes back to my previous comment about the impossibility of a writer supporting their own invented movement, but I didn't just make reference and then scatter a few fragments. It is timeconsuming, especially when you consider that the story may never even get published. But it was a lot of fun.
badducky
05-13-2009, 11:13 PM
In all seriousness, and to move towards the general change in tone around here (SQUIDPUNK! LOLPUNK! WOOPUNK!)
I consider myself to be an anto-epic fantasist. I take epic fantasy elements, and spin them around backwards, dissassemble, reassenble, and in general, attempt to do epic fantasy completely and totally wrong.
As reviewers used such terms to describe what I do, I guess it's only a matter of time before a few more writers and I get shoved together into a marketing category.
I hope we inspire all sorts of fashionistas when that happens. I have high hopes for the pioneering trends of KrissKross, but - alas - I see no resurgance in their career anytime soon.
Shweta
05-14-2009, 12:45 AM
That depends on what you back it up with, doesn't it?
Yep, and I might well like what you're doing with it. But it's like invented languages. I know too much about language now to accept most of 'em at all. And I know rather more about concepts and categories and how they are structured and how they interact with language than sane people would want to. And this means that a lot of invented cultural artifacts (literary movements being but one example) come across as flat to me because I fail to see the extensions and variations real categories would have, and because I am looking for them.
This may be the biggest factor sending me away from both SF and most secondary-world fantasy, and towards work that draws heavily on real cultures and mythologies.
In all seriousness, and to move towards the general change in tone around here (SQUIDPUNK! LOLPUNK! WOOPUNK!)
I consider myself to be an anto-epic fantasist. I take epic fantasy elements, and spin them around backwards, dissassemble, reassenble, and in general, attempt to do epic fantasy completely and totally wrong.
Which is a goal I find entirely admirable :)
Gray Rose
05-14-2009, 02:44 AM
Vodkapunk!
Stuff I write after, you know.
Defies genre boundaries.
Unfortunately, my Soberpunk pieces are not much better at staying firmly inside boundaries.
Yep, and I might well like what you're doing with it. But it's like invented languages. I know too much about language now to accept most of 'em at all. And I know rather more about concepts and categories and how they are structured and how they interact with language than sane people would want to. And this means that a lot of invented cultural artifacts (literary movements being but one example) come across as flat to me because I fail to see the extensions and variations real categories would have, and because I am looking for them.
:)
Same here. If I will ever be allowed to teach a Constructed Languages course it will be about typology in disguise. How are the grammatical categories different across languages, what does it teach us about human cognition, and how could we use that to construct an Otherness? Sadly, too many conlangs are constructed on the "sounds so cool!" principle.
badducky
05-14-2009, 02:47 AM
"Anti-Epic" not "Anto-Epic"
Heh. Not a good sign, if I can't even spell it right...
Dichroic
05-15-2009, 10:11 AM
Same here. If I will ever be allowed to teach a Constructed Languages course it will be about typology in disguise. How are the grammatical categories different across languages, what does it teach us about human cognition, and how could we use that to construct an Otherness? Sadly, too many conlangs are constructed on the "sounds so cool!" principle.
Damn. So much for my story where the linguist studies Silaren.
(She's trying to rebuild her brain after a stroke.)
It was a weak ending, anyway. The part where I always say I don't write fiction? Really. I don't.
Gray Rose
05-15-2009, 08:31 PM
Damn. So much for my story where the linguist studies Silaren.
(She's trying to rebuild her brain after a stroke.)
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Why not? I am afraid I am not getting why my post made you decide not to pursue it :P certainly linguists study languages... Certainly the only chance to rebuild your brain after stroke is the *desire* to rebuild it, and depending on the locus of the stroke that desire might or might not be available. Strokes are horrible things.
Aggy B.
05-15-2009, 11:31 PM
I have MSS in the rough stages that I put in self-invented genres.
Cyberpagan and Electropunk. The latter is really just steampunk only with electricity and computers that aren't operated by punchcards. And with Cyberpagan the ghost in the machine is real and wants blood sacrifice or your spaceship will explode.
My gut tells me these already exist, although without my nifty nicknames, but I read so very little these days I can't cite any examples.
Kitty Pryde
05-15-2009, 11:41 PM
I have MSS in the rough stages that I put in self-invented genres.
Cyberpagan and Electropunk. The latter is really just steampunk only with electricity and computers that aren't operated by punchcards. And with Cyberpagan the ghost in the machine is real and wants blood sacrifice or your spaceship will explode.
My gut tells me these already exist, although without my nifty nicknames, but I read so very little these days I can't cite any examples.
Isn't steampunk, minus the steam, plus computers, just cyberpunk? Seems like you'd have the two main ingredients: computers and punks.
Also, cyberpagan is a really awesome name.
Aggy B.
05-15-2009, 11:53 PM
Isn't steampunk, minus the steam, plus computers, just cyberpunk? Seems like you'd have the two main ingredients: computers and punks.
Also, cyberpagan is a really awesome name.
Hmm. That might be true. I always thought cyberpunk was advanced computer tech. I'm thinking more along the lines of 1970s tech with some counterculture fantastical elements. And big honking tubes (the original capacitor) sticking out of everything.
Actually, the Hellboy movies are somewhat similar to the kind of world I'm thinking about when I say Electropunk.
Kitty Pryde
05-16-2009, 12:18 AM
Vacuum-tube-punk? I spose it doesn't really roll off the tongue though.
Polenth
05-16-2009, 02:55 AM
Cyberpagan and Electropunk. The latter is really just steampunk only with electricity and computers that aren't operated by punchcards.
In my head, I use electropunk for steampunk with early electricity. I don't think that's based on anything, other than my brain. I'm pretty sure it's a type of music in the real world.
Dichroic
05-19-2009, 09:48 AM
Why not? I am afraid I am not getting why my post made you decide not to pursue it :P certainly linguists study languages... Certainly the only chance to rebuild your brain after stroke is the *desire* to rebuild it, and depending on the locus of the stroke that desire might or might not be available. Strokes are horrible things.
Partly your comment about them being constructed on the "sounds so cool!" principlae, and Shweta's saying that " I know too much about language now to accept most of 'em at all."
But most of all because I submitted it once and the editor rejected it because he said the ending was weak, and he was absolutely right, and I have not yet figured out one with better logic. (I'm avoiding more detail not to be cagey but because I don't want to bore everyone and I don't think this is the place.)
badducky
05-19-2009, 06:20 PM
AccountsPunk!
A mad combination of cutting edge accounting techniques with the hippest, coolest SF in the company break room!
Classic short stories include such hits as "No Angels Dance On The Head of This Pin", and "Red Space Money, Blue Space Money", "How To Steal From the Fed and Escape on a Rocket Ship", "If You Thought Ulysses Was Labyrinthine, Wait 'Til You See My TPS Reports"
Fans note that this is the only genre where books are told almost entirely in numerical symbols and power point flow charts. Notorious AccountsPunk pranksters encode subtext in binary hidden in the equations. The goal of each artist is to tear down corporations from the inside by hypnotizing their superiors with inscrutable performance art projects during meetings.
Followers of the movement can be deduced by the pencils and paperclips used as body piercings, and the copy of the AccountPunk classic, "Add, Subtract, and DIE!" by the movement's founder Chuck Palahniuk's brother, Norman Palahniuk, the novelization of what happened after Monty Python's skit about the corporate pirates, told in the actual numbers that reflect the reality of their actions. At this time, Norman Palahniuk is the only person to have written a complete novel in the movement, though it is rumored that secret novels exist, being passed around from one accounting firm to another - passed in secret like porn or anarchy. Rumors persist of "World War A", when the whole planet is infected with deadly Accountancy that must be stopped, and "House of Expense Reports" where a corporation is larger on the inside than on the outside, once you run the numbers.
After all, say the mad geniuses of AccountPunk, written words are a reflection of spoken words that are a reflection of reality. Numbers are the pure expression of reality.
AccountsPunk!
Liosse de Velishaf
05-19-2009, 06:25 PM
AccountsPunk!
A mad combination of cutting edge accounting techniques with the hippest, coolest SF in the company break room!
Classic short stories include such hits as "No Angels Dance On The Head of This Pin", and "Red Space Money, Blue Space Money", "How To Steal From the Fed and Escape on a Rocket Ship", "If You Thought Ulysses Was Labyrinthine, Wait 'Til You See My TPS Reports"
Fans note that this is the only genre where books are told almost entirely in numerical symbols and power point flow charts. Notorious AccountsPunk pranksters encode subtext in binary hidden in the equations. The goal of each artist is to tear down corporations from the inside by hypnotizing their superiors with inscrutable performance art projects during meetings.
Followers of the movement can be deduced by the pencils and paperclips used as body piercings, and the copy of the AccountPunk classic, "Add, Subtract, and DIE!" by the movement's founder Chuck Palahniuk's brother, Norman Palahniuk, the novelization of what happened after Monty Python's skit about the corporate pirates, told in the actual numbers that reflect the reality of their actions. At this time, Norman Palahniuk is the only person to have written a complete novel in the movement, though it is rumored that secret novels exist, being passed around from one accounting firm to another - passed in secret like porn or anarchy. Rumors persist of "World War A", when the whole planet is infected with deadly Accountancy that must be stopped, and "House of Expense Reports" where a corporation is larger on the inside than on the outside, once you run the numbers.
After all, say the mad geniuses of AccountPunk, written words are a reflection of spoken words that are a reflection of reality. Numbers are the pure expression of reality.
AccountsPunk!
I'd read it...
Sharon Mock
05-19-2009, 11:17 PM
Rumors persist of "World War A", when the whole planet is infected with deadly Accountancy that must be stopped, and "House of Expense Reports" where a corporation is larger on the inside than on the outside, once you run the numbers.
This is brilliant.
Of course, I might quibble that every corporation is larger on the inside than the outside...
AccountsPunk!
A mad combination of cutting edge accounting techniques with the hippest, coolest SF in the company break room!
Classic short stories include such hits as "No Angels Dance On The Head of This Pin", and "Red Space Money, Blue Space Money", "How To Steal From the Fed and Escape on a Rocket Ship", "If You Thought Ulysses Was Labyrinthine, Wait 'Til You See My TPS Reports"
Fans note that this is the only genre where books are told almost entirely in numerical symbols and power point flow charts. Notorious AccountsPunk pranksters encode subtext in binary hidden in the equations. The goal of each artist is to tear down corporations from the inside by hypnotizing their superiors with inscrutable performance art projects during meetings.
Followers of the movement can be deduced by the pencils and paperclips used as body piercings, and the copy of the AccountPunk classic, "Add, Subtract, and DIE!" by the movement's founder Chuck Palahniuk's brother, Norman Palahniuk, the novelization of what happened after Monty Python's skit about the corporate pirates, told in the actual numbers that reflect the reality of their actions. At this time, Norman Palahniuk is the only person to have written a complete novel in the movement, though it is rumored that secret novels exist, being passed around from one accounting firm to another - passed in secret like porn or anarchy. Rumors persist of "World War A", when the whole planet is infected with deadly Accountancy that must be stopped, and "House of Expense Reports" where a corporation is larger on the inside than on the outside, once you run the numbers.
After all, say the mad geniuses of AccountPunk, written words are a reflection of spoken words that are a reflection of reality. Numbers are the pure expression of reality.
AccountsPunk!Add on, brother! Add on!
badducky
05-20-2009, 02:04 AM
One of the basic tenets of AccountsPunk!, I suspect, is that corporations are basically the undead, as they are legally alive without actually being alive.
I learned this because I read the AccountsPunk! story "Bicentennial Charter", wherein an AI-powered business plan came to life, but had to struggle for the legal right to be considered not a real person in the eyes of the law.
Team 2012
06-09-2009, 08:48 AM
Oh, AccountsPunk sounds good. I heard there is already a spin-off, ActuariaDweeb, sticking to life insuranace.
On the other hand, business and government are getting way less evil than Non Governmental Organizations, so there probably should be NGOdaddy genre around.
C.bronco
06-09-2009, 08:51 AM
squidpunk?
I am inspired.
My graphic novel shall henceforth be" Death Chicken Punk."
I have now made history.
Team 2012
06-09-2009, 11:00 PM
Hmmm, so fiction, "al Capon" as it were?
Dichroic
06-10-2009, 03:50 PM
No, that's Gangsta Chicken, not Punk.
Team 2012
06-11-2009, 10:28 AM
Chicken Cache A Story, perhaps?
A subgenre of CyberFlunk
Aggy B.
06-12-2009, 07:51 PM
What amuses me is that if I hadn't know the term "steampunk" I would have referred to my WIP as "neo-Dickensian science-fantasy." Which does not have the same ring to it.
But it made me wonder, if we could define our own genre what would we say about it? I am kind of surprised sometimes by how few genres there are. Humans tend to be label-happy, but it seems (to me) that we often go for labels that are less rather than more specific.
(Not that everything requires definition, but if one is going to try and define something, why not do it properly?)
AMCrenshaw
06-13-2009, 10:58 AM
Yeah, my main WIP is a mix between Western and Fantasy, with an underlying attention to experimentation in form. I called it slipstream for quite a while, since when I discovered that term it had signified a combination of genres-- the connotation is geared, I think, more toward SF than Fantasy though. So I'm without a genre again. I'll probably market it someday as a traditional romance.
Oh, and the Visceral Realists of Bolano's The Savage Detectives is pretty fascinating to read about. That book isn't speculative, though...
AMC
Aggy B.
06-14-2009, 12:59 AM
I'll probably market it someday as a traditional romance.
Ah ha ha. :D That made me chuckle. (I'm assuming you're referring to Courier.)
Anyway. I was a bit shocked when I read that Titus Alone is considered early steampunk (though the term for the sub-genre was coined much later). I love Mervyn Peake and the Gormenghast trilogy, but I would not have considered Titus Alone steampunk. I guess it says more about wanting to lump stuff into the most general category available than anything else.
badducky
06-14-2009, 10:16 AM
NerdCore is interstitial, and filk. (I'm listening to MC Chris' Boba Fett right now...)
Needs more literature to round out their little movement.
Sharon Mock
06-19-2009, 08:11 AM
China Mieville's at it again, inventing new literary movements. (http://www.omnivoracious.com/2009/06/neither-a-contract-nor-a-promise-five-movements-to-watch-out-for.html)
(Remember that a canonical definition of New Weird is "stuff like China Mieville writes.")
beezle
06-19-2009, 08:27 AM
China Mieville's at it again, inventing new literary movements. (http://www.omnivoracious.com/2009/06/neither-a-contract-nor-a-promise-five-movements-to-watch-out-for.html)
(Remember that a canonical definition of New Weird is "stuff like China Mieville writes.")
Gah, I can't keep up with all this!
Team 2012
06-19-2009, 09:42 AM
That was hilarious. Some guy doing the same confabulation we're doing on this thread, but taking it seriously.
Not familiar with Mieville. Is the latest lit darling? McInnery or Ellis for the post-nineties?
That was hilarious. Some guy doing the same confabulation we're doing on this thread, but taking it seriously.
Not familiar with Mieville. Is the latest lit darling? McInnery or Ellis for the post-nineties?China Mieville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Miéville), and i'm not sure he was being entirely serious.
Team 2012
06-19-2009, 09:01 PM
That's kind of what he does, no?
A little squid pro quo?
Liosse de Velishaf
07-06-2009, 12:58 PM
Having just seen a hilariously vulgar sub of a korean/japanese educational anime show, I have decided that I would love to be involved in the chimney-punk movement.
Chimney-punk is a genre that be most simply described as Dark, Urban, Secondary-World Mythic Fantasy.
I'm aware the name sounds a little odd, but I think it fits. I actually have a few(read: a lot of) stories that would fall under this label, though they actually vary significantly in many areas. I've decided to write (for fun) the quintessential chimney-punk novel.
painkillers
12-21-2009, 02:34 PM
Putridpunk -- it's got zombies in it.
EDIT: Original post from the Magepunk thread on nanowrimo (where i had a bit of a kerfuffle with the *punkers)
Putridpunk, it's like cyberpunk only it's got zombies in it see, and they act as a metaphore for the various subgenres (which spawn like cockroaches in a New York apartment block) eating themselves and each other, in an orgasmic orgy of meaningless copying. They copy themselves like faxs and each copy of a copy becomes gradually fainter until whatever meaning or truth was there in the beginning is lost under a welter of cliche and sloppy thinking.
The Plot: A Victorian mad scientist creates a beam of Zombifictaion, and promptly gets eaten by his own implausibility. Then an Edwardian psycic detective is put on the case, but because he has NO Knowledge of cause and effect gets rapidly eaten too. Then the twenties flapper out for a goodtime on her diesel engined dirigible goes up in flames because she refuse to stop smoking even though the whole thing is filled with hydrogen. But her crew fall into a sand dune and put on sandels. The wizards come from out of the east, but take one look and promptly turn around and head back to the highlands of Epic and Saga.
And so the zombies move out across the world with their anachronistic morality (not to mention clothes and hairstyles) until finally the AI called ShadowThorn puts an end to the whole sorry mess by taking on the names of voodoo gods and calling death and destruction down from the laser sats in high orbit above the earth.
Albedo
12-21-2009, 04:19 PM
I have MSS in the rough stages that I put in self-invented genres.
Cyberpagan and Electropunk. The latter is really just steampunk only with electricity and computers that aren't operated by punchcards. And with Cyberpagan the ghost in the machine is real and wants blood sacrifice or your spaceship will explode.
My gut tells me these already exist, although without my nifty nicknames, but I read so very little these days I can't cite any examples.
I read a story by someone, forget who, about a supercomputer that gets afflicted by a gypsy curse. That sounds Cyberpagan.
Vacuum-tube-punk? I spose it doesn't really roll off the tongue though.
I've heard "Valvepunk".
RE: Putridpunk/zombpunk/corpsepunk: can we apply this to the legions of crappy knockoffs appearing in Pride and Prejudice and Zombies' wake? Or are these more regencypunk with zombies?
painkillers
12-21-2009, 05:25 PM
RE: Putridpunk/zombpunk/corpsepunk: can we apply this to the legions of crappy knockoffs appearing in Pride and Prejudice and Zombies' wake? Or are these more regencypunk with zombies?
I don't see why not.
BTW the original Neuromancer, Count Zero etc from Gibson had an AI that splintered onto the web and took on the personalities of Voodoo Gods.
Art_Sempai
01-03-2010, 05:29 AM
Hmm...would the Flintstones world be considered StonePunk?
Christine N.
01-04-2010, 01:43 AM
Writerpunk.
Think about it.
defcon6000
01-04-2010, 12:47 PM
Putridpunk -- it's got zombies in it.
Putridpunk sounds like it could be anything nasty. Like farts for instance. A fart in Guatemala causes a tornado in Texas.
Liosse de Velishaf
01-05-2010, 12:32 AM
Putridpunk sounds like it could be anything nasty. Like farts for instance. A fart in Guatemala causes a tornado in Texas.
A fart cannot be putrid. The word means "corrupt/rotting/decomposing" in the sense of corpses and carcasses and possibly a compost heap.
Ruv Draba
01-05-2010, 03:39 AM
A fart cannot be putrid. The word means "corrupt/rotting/decomposing" in the sense of corpses and carcasses and possibly a compost heap.But decomposition is in fact, digestion.
So you're saying that bacterial farts (aka 'micropoot', pl. 'micropooteen') are putrid, while human flatulence isn't?
Liosse de Velishaf
01-05-2010, 11:39 AM
But decomposition is in fact, digestion.
So you're saying that bacterial farts (aka 'micropoot', pl. 'micropooteen') are putrid, while human flatulence isn't?
Pretty much, yeah. :)
Ruv Draba
01-06-2010, 03:06 AM
Pretty much, yeah. :)Hm... but human digestion relies in intestinal flora like Lactobacillus, Bacteroides and Bifidobacteria. So... are we more semiputrid than entirely puteless?
painkillers
01-06-2010, 03:20 AM
Hmm...would the Flintstones world be considered StonePunk?
Nah, Stonepunk is "Seriously dude, where's my steam engine."
Torrain
02-02-2010, 10:08 AM
I read a story by someone, forget who, about a supercomputer that gets afflicted by a gypsy curse. That sounds Cyberpagan.
Is that the one where the child (John) has his entire family get killed as a child, and grows up to become a rich and successful computer genius due to his creation of empathy circuits, and (as a side hobby) tries to convince Gypsies to stop being Gypsies, and gets cursed for it? And as he's dying he explains the situation to the supercomputer, which tells him to go buy a small black bird from a nearby petstore (it could access the inventory online, you see, it knew they had finches), and cures him but in turn catches the curse itself and that promptly spreads throughout the world, destroying all computers except the defense ones which don't have empathy circuits, and so they promptly nuke the world. And the story ends with the old woman who cursed him riding along in the shell of an old car hauled by a brain-damaged man, going along a road full of wrecked care "filled with the bones of those who had thought they were going somewhere, the day John Whatsisname was cured."
...because if it isn't, I'd like to know what it is. Am curious, you see.
Love and coffee,
Frances
shaldna
02-17-2010, 04:56 PM
Whoa. Knew we shouldn't have asked :-)
Does this fit with the whole squids in visual arts thing? Sometimes you get the impression every other artist on Gawker has suction cups and ink-squirting on the brain.
thank god. i thought i was the only one noticing that and i was afraid i was going mad
Slushie
02-20-2010, 02:09 AM
I just invented a new genre where all the characters are really, really stupid.
It's called Daftpunk, and it's going to be huge.
SarahWesten
07-22-2010, 10:41 AM
I just invented a new genre where all the characters are really, really stupid.
It's called Daftpunk, and it's going to be huge.
I think Daftpunk is the name of a techno band lol!
Liosse de Velishaf
07-24-2010, 08:15 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daft_Punk
Also:
http://www.xkcd.com/740/
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