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03-12-2006, 12:51 PM
:e2point: We were asked in screenwriting class to read and view 2 films(Lost in Translation and The Talented Mr. Ripley), and then look for instances of where and how subtext is used in these films. Also we were to think of different aspects of subtext in general.
Below I pasted my comment, as I thought this would be kind of a fun thread:
The scene that stands out most for Lost In Translation, is where Bob is leaving, and calls Charlotte to get his jacket back: It’s not about the jacket, but about how he feels toward Charlotte.
The photo shoot scene: Bob hates it! The Suntory Group he avoids them. Scenes in bar show Bob unhappy.
He says he likes Charlotte’s crazy friends, but what he’s saying is he likes her and is bored with his life.
And the Ripley film, the whole thing is subtext. The strongest subtext showed through to me in the scene, where Silvanna was on the back of Dickie’s scooter and said "I hate you.". It was obvious she felt just the opposite.
The other one was on the boat with Marge he tells her he’s "fine". Marge gets it and tells him about how Dickie treats his new friends v.s. his old friends and tells Ripley there’s no room on the Cortina trip. In other words "You’re out!". I think Ripley gets the message without admitting he does.
Freddie claims to have "standing room only", in his car and Dickie tells Tom to go sightsee, while he plays with Freddie at the record store. Tom’s feelings are hurt as he goes off to explore.
Marge’s comment of Ripley’s lavish apartment makes accusations of Tom on various levels.
I think the subtext found in the Ripley movie is common to all genres especially drama and rom-com’s. All those party scenes with bored or dissatisfied couples. I think subtext is an important ingredient in any good film. It’s part of the art of storytelling.
I think subtext comes naturally, though the more I write with the concept of film being visual, the greater the subtext gets. I think life in general is full of lots of subtext and irony and I think film is just a reflection of that.
Our night dreams are a classic example of subtext. For most, dreams are filled with information, delivered in a form, not common to waking reality. I find this for me, though most of my dreams tend to foretell a future event. Still even these dreams convey other teachings, through the use of subtext. Sometimes the subtext is easy to grasp and sometimes it seems almost impossible to decipher. I don’t think dream or film reality, has to be limited to being "on the nose". I think this allows for more mental expansion and insight for the one experiencing it.
Jennifer
Below I pasted my comment, as I thought this would be kind of a fun thread:
The scene that stands out most for Lost In Translation, is where Bob is leaving, and calls Charlotte to get his jacket back: It’s not about the jacket, but about how he feels toward Charlotte.
The photo shoot scene: Bob hates it! The Suntory Group he avoids them. Scenes in bar show Bob unhappy.
He says he likes Charlotte’s crazy friends, but what he’s saying is he likes her and is bored with his life.
And the Ripley film, the whole thing is subtext. The strongest subtext showed through to me in the scene, where Silvanna was on the back of Dickie’s scooter and said "I hate you.". It was obvious she felt just the opposite.
The other one was on the boat with Marge he tells her he’s "fine". Marge gets it and tells him about how Dickie treats his new friends v.s. his old friends and tells Ripley there’s no room on the Cortina trip. In other words "You’re out!". I think Ripley gets the message without admitting he does.
Freddie claims to have "standing room only", in his car and Dickie tells Tom to go sightsee, while he plays with Freddie at the record store. Tom’s feelings are hurt as he goes off to explore.
Marge’s comment of Ripley’s lavish apartment makes accusations of Tom on various levels.
I think the subtext found in the Ripley movie is common to all genres especially drama and rom-com’s. All those party scenes with bored or dissatisfied couples. I think subtext is an important ingredient in any good film. It’s part of the art of storytelling.
I think subtext comes naturally, though the more I write with the concept of film being visual, the greater the subtext gets. I think life in general is full of lots of subtext and irony and I think film is just a reflection of that.
Our night dreams are a classic example of subtext. For most, dreams are filled with information, delivered in a form, not common to waking reality. I find this for me, though most of my dreams tend to foretell a future event. Still even these dreams convey other teachings, through the use of subtext. Sometimes the subtext is easy to grasp and sometimes it seems almost impossible to decipher. I don’t think dream or film reality, has to be limited to being "on the nose". I think this allows for more mental expansion and insight for the one experiencing it.
Jennifer