...and then you die...

[Spartakiss]

Okay, so my title was misleading and furthermore has absolutely nothing with the question I shall ask kindly of you…I decided to track down the pro’s..that means you peepz!

Newbie here (not the place to discuss that, but heck..), I have almost no real experience when it comes to writing [screen or other]. No rejection, no acception, nothing. (I got an offul prawblem wif ellipsis too..) I have, however, been reading up on the art of screenwriting….and, several seemingly infallible ideas at hand, I plan to do something. (You know of what “something” I speak!)

Now, upon my quest for screenwrite-enlightenment I have not yet discovered the formula for music in finished product…I’ll set up a completely-fictional-not-even-remotely-related-to-my-own-ideas-or-scenario scene so you can try and see what I mean!

{Not in proper form, I know, it’s just to get my idea across!}

Scene opens with a young oriental man striding [in slow motion] down a street. He is glancing [at quarter speed] around the New York streets in a curious convict-style manner, noticeably suffering from a culture-shock or sorts. (Judging by his clothes).
Not as part of the scene, but rather as an over-dub score, “I” (I’m afraid of Americans..) By David Bowie is playing. Not for any reason of preference, but for purely necessary and ironc purposes, as later in the plot it will unfold that an underlying plot indeed involving “Americans” is unfolding ….

This is a completely obscure and ridiculous example and is by no means an indication of the actual ideas I am undertaking. (I assure you I have more substance and capability than this awful-awful paragraph I have written!)

But in my actual screenplay, the same sort of idea is going on..I NEED a certain piece of well-accepted music to be playing as an over-scene score purely for ironic purposes…surely there is a correct way to incorporate this!!!

Thanks so much for your time!

Cheers,

~Sparta~

[William Haskins]

you can write it with published music written in if you want, but

a) some readers see it as the sign of a novice, and
b) the producers/studio will decide if it will use the song you have written in, and their reasoning could run the gamut from their personal tastes to consideration of the often-hefty licensing fees

if it were me, i would

a) not get married to the idea of a particular song, and
b) write it by mentioning the style, genre or mood of the music i have in mind, rather than a particular song that might collide with the obstacles mentioned above.

good luck with your writing.

-william

[Fartin Mowler]

I like that song :lol

William I agree with what you said. Good song but cheesy to base stories around such descriptive type songs. I like the idea of finishing a story and finding obscure music on sites like garageband.com before they get famous. Cheaper too.

[William Haskins]

ultimately, no producer gives a damn about the screenwriter's choice of music. it's simply not your job.

[Fartin Mowler]

I was bored today waiting for something and wrote this... a beginning of a wierd musical dark comedy.






Interior shot of old home...darkened living room (out of focus slowly focusing on a really large woman on couch)

Dave (Oriental Americanized male walks into focus) (starts to sing a song)

She'll have another piece of pie
She'll have a double Reuben rye
She works hard at eating well
That's why I love her

She's got a couple of pony kegs
Her arms are bigger than my legs
And when she holds me I can't breathe
That's why I love her

Yeah I'm her butter she's my bread
She's like a mobile waterbed
And when I get on top of her
I can't touch the mattress

And when her flesh begins to sag
She's like a human sleeping bag
I feel so cozy safe and warm
She's my insulation

I always know where she sat
And when she's on me I get flat
Some broken ribs a punctured lung
That's why I love her

She's my filly* I'm her stud
Her bean is bigger than my pud
It's like feeding a Tic-Tac to a whale
That's why I love her

She'll have another piece of pie
She'll have a double Reuben rye
She works hard at eating well
That's why I love her
Copyright 1995 by West Beach Music/NOFX Music
Recorded by NOFX on the CD "Heavy Petting Zoo" (Epitaph 86457-4,
1995)

Scene 2

There was sex (Shot of Glenda “the fat woman” in shower, odd outline shadow through curtain of mass body flesh)

Dave (recent winner of stand-up comedy contest)

“I didn’t almost vomit that time” (fake chuckle) and does a spit take into shower

Glenda leans out of the shower a hand exposes with black nail polish and belts out a song her band metal band has been playing that seem’s appropriate for the moment
Sex for a few marks
There is no tabu

The choice is large
To grasp something young
Fragile and naive
Shake by excitement , the passion can't be hidden

You're holding her
She is yours now
Your bloodless brain does not register

You've got only one goal
Delight, pleasure, ecstasy
A total satisfaction at any cost
Who cares about the hell she's going through

You've bought her, the money wipes out all respect
The school girl is yours for a few moments

What do you feel like?
Oral? Anal? Piss or Sado?
She has to submit
You've bought her

You stink of sweat, you gaze into her face, how old is she - ten?
Your daughter is the same age
No! No! This is different, you've bought this one
Just like the others
Who cares about who sold her to you - a brother, a school mateor @#%$ parents
Who cares, you've paid for it, she's yours

scene 3

David &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp ( hands Glenda a towel and slaps her ass)
“That song really sucked” “Your really sick you know that?” (David fake chuckles again)

(Bathroom Hall scene, David is standing outside door because bathroom is filled with Glenda and steam)&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp


(Glenda walks past David, David leans over railing to let her pass naked ,steaming)

David (still standing in hallway wipes off water that was pressed against his shirt)

“I need to borrow your car”

Glenda (changes in bedroom)

“I’d rather abort your fetus than give you my keys”

David (chuckles nervously)

“Ha”

Glenda

“Yes, David I am going to have your child” (say’s it matter of factly) pause as she pulls over her large black moomoo with the obligitory metal band logo. “I hope it’s not ugly”

David (look of wanting to pee his pants or run away to some foreign land that already has too many children that might not notice if he dropped one more at the door step)

"It won't be ugly" (smiles)

[Spartakiss]

Mr. Mowler, Mr. Haskins, I doff my hat to you gentlemen.

I know that this subject of "general music input" is a well defined image of novicery (my new word)..and have reconsidered a way to incorporate such details implicitly in my work. Though I have a certain undying love for David Bowie that we shall not further interpret here, the piece that I had initially considered was from a completely different background and would have been more --shall I say-- sophisticated in the scene arrangement. Nevertheless, I do indeed see how you are quite right.

Thus; I really truly sincerely thank you for your honest, reasoned, and so-well-seasoned contributions to my quest...My highest regards!

Cheers,

~Sparta~

[Fartin Mowler]

sophisticated in the scene arrangement

Did he just insult me? :lol

[Spartakiss]

No..SHE [boldunderlinehighlightitalicize]..didn't.:lol

How do I come off as a he?! (Runs to mirror and applies a thick lipstic for reassurance.)

Mind you, Bowie probably applied such lipstick sometimes..

Looks like I've cheated myself out of femininity.

I assure you..I'm 100% Female/Feminist [same thing..right?]!

I seem to like your style Mowl- you and I have the same sarcasm! Cheers to that!

~Sparta~

[scripter1]

Let me welcome you to the boards by arguing with you,
nothing personal though.

"100% Female/Feminist [same thing..right?]! "

Uh, NO!!!!
There is a big difference between the two quite a bit of the time and varying degrees of difference some of the time.

There are femi-nazies that seem bent on destroying Males as we know them.
There are political feminists that scream and rant and march for womens rights yet do nothing and say nothing about the terrible crimes committed against millions of women around the world.

I am most certainly a Female. I am a woman, but more importantly I am a Lady, I am a wife and a mother.

I am NOT a feminist and neither are millions of other women.

[scripter1]

William is right, songs in a script are pretty much taboo.
The only way around it really is to have a character actually SINGING the song, and that might even be stepping on copywrite toes.

Your only other semi-real option is to write the scene/movie so fantastically, so awesome, so tightly woven together that studios and the songwriter will fight to have it in there.

I have no idea really how interested song writers and artists are in having their work reproduced for a film. You would think they would want the revenue but that is not always the case. However this is a quagmire I've heard about.
Rights and lawsuits and contracts and all that can really bog down a production.

[Spartakiss]

Yow! You read my mind!

I actually had the second plan to have a character reproducing the song with a vital guitar..

It has alot to do with the storyline! Promise!

Thanks though!

~Sparta~

[Fartin Mowler]

seem to like your style Mowl- you and I have the same sarcasm! Cheers to that!

I'm just throwing out pieces of stuff to see if anyone likes it ;) I don't usually pay attention to gender or sexuality unless someone uses that as a crutch.

[Writing Again]

If you have never written anything it is good you have been reading up -- Never stop learning.

Infallible ideas -- Not sure there is such a thing. I've reached the conclusion that ideas, concept, etc are far less important than execution and story.

[JustinoXV]

"There are political feminists that scream and rant and march for womens rights yet do nothing and say nothing about the terrible crimes committed against millions of women around the world."

And there are feminists who have fought for the rights of women and this country and around the world.

Once upon a time, women weren't allowed to inherit property, vote, among many other things. Under this system, if your husband died prematurely, anything he had would have gone to his nearest male relative, leaving you and your children solely at the mercy of your in laws.

Safiyah Husseini, a muslim woman who was going to be stoned to death for allegedly committing adultery (of course the guy gets away stone free), was saved in part because a number of women's rights activisit protested her pending exectution. Under the strict sharia (Islamic law) women must have four male witnesses to prove that they are raped, or else women maybe put to death for adultery!

You scripter, can vote and have all the rights that you have because of the actions of women's rights activists, including feminists. Should you become a produced, working screenwriter, the money you earn will be yours. Under previous systems, the mone earned by you would have gone to the male head of the house. (the master)

[Spartakiss]

Nicely said J. Hats off to you!

As far as the "infallible" ideas I mentioned...I'm a highly sarcastic person and am riddled with imperfections...it was for dramatic effect only...don't read too much into it!

Cheers!