Dream dates

[Higgins]

No sooner had I posted "Back to the Acropolis" than I realized the 1150 BC date for the Mycenean fortifications on the Athenian Acropolis were off by about 75 years. In fact, the image on page 76 of The Athenian Acropolis instantly appeared hauntingly superimposed over my attempts to make another pot of coffee. I could sense that there had been some indeterminate dreams in my sleep only a few hours earlier that had featured that exact haunting image of the old wall buried under the Classical refashioning of the mythopoeaic topos. Not only that but the dream had featured "Boetians" (poets? Boeteapoiec poets?) on crudely fashioned "sculptural" horses (association: phallus and castration anxiety on grounds of "what gets knocked off every anatomically correct male marble statue"). Of course the date the book gives for the Mycenean fortifications is more like 1225 BC, but I had "fought off" the dream date of 1065 BC (associated dimly with some sacrificial act) and arbitrarily substituted a spuriously rational date of 1150 BC...which was also completely wrong, as well as being "rational".

Anyway, as we all know, Freud fainted on the Athenian Acropolis. But when? Presumably roughly 3150 years after the Mycenean Fortifications were built there.

[Willowmound]

I find this post confusing and somehow deeply fascinating.

[Higgins]

I find this post confusing and somehow deeply fascinating.

The post was much less confusing and fascinating than the dream.

There was another allusion in the dream and I omitted it due to its potential for utterly confusing complexity:

In Jane Carter's article in Susan Langdon ed: New Light on a Dark Age,
th discussion centers on the connection between the commemorative side of hero cults and some aspects of fertility imagery. The iconographic aspects of this connection are exceedingly weird: grazing animals and
women gazing from windows. The dream index for this symbolic complex was more or less the very eerie bronze stands on pp109-110.

The article (and in its own way the dream) connected this all up by way of the iconography of the Greek thiasos ceremony and the Ugaritic/Phonecian/Samaritan/Israelite Marzeah(asperation dotted h) where heros in the underworld dwelling with the gods are commemorated in a supper ceremony. And that is all connected via the Septuagint (translating Marzeah with thiasos) and the prophet Amos' tendentious description of the Samaritan Marzeah...and not only that but via a Temple on Crete (Temple A on the Acropolis at Prinias) from about 650 BC...which is another place where the iconography of dead heros under the grazing animals occurs.

Very puzzling. I have no idea what it all means.

[Willowmound]

Neither do I ;)

[pdr]

Perhaps you mean to pull the other one too?

[Higgins]

Perhaps you mean to pull the other one too?

Ah...I just realized that Boetian is a compressed pun for "beat poet"...

Wow...I wonder which beat poets visited the Athenian Acropolis?

[pdr]

Sokal, how dare you! This is a deadly serious board! We are earnest and hard working scholarly souls. We don't have time for frivolity. Run away and annoy someone else!

And be nice to baby beginners. We all asked daft questions when we were learning too.