Firearms with Character

[Parkinsonsd]

I'll admit that I'm a bit of a gun nut, and appreciate cowboy action shooting more than I should, and whenever I see a movie, I look at the gun and get a longing.

In Quigley Down Under, Selleck shot a model 1874 Sharps. Beautiful, beautiful gun. In my opinion a veritable work of art. They're also heavy as all get out, but it's a nice gun, with a venerable reputation.

What's your favorite firearm from literature or movies?

[Del]

I remember Quiglley's gun, in fact, that is about all I remember of the movie.

As a kid I liked Lucas McCain's rifle (The Rifleman). That big round lever was magic.

I'm not a gun enthusiast but if I had to pick a favorite:

http://ri.13lights.com/3030.jpg

A Winchester 3030, I guess it is the model 94, but I don't know if other models look much like it. It just felt like it fit in my hands.

[Haggis]

M-14. Loved it.

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/lodge/616/m14.jpg

[Del]

M-14. Loved it.




Were you any good?

http://ri.13lights.com/haggis.m14.jpg

[Jedi Dad]

favorite "sidearm" has got to be a lightsaber. :D

[Parkinsonsd]

Yeah, well, I assumed it would be something with a more "Old West" feel to it. But hey, lightsabers and M-14s are good. I guess.

[Axler]

Favorite non-Western firearm...the good ol' UNCLE Special

http://hometown.aol.com/uncleagent/images/uncle_special_carbine.jpg

Favorite Western firearm...James West's spring-powered sleeve derringer from The Wild, Wild West

http://www.tvacres.com/images/gun_derringer4.jpg

Favorite gun of my own creation...Death Hawk's Hawken .690.

http://www.jazmaonline.com/interviews/imx/mark_ellis.jpg

[JeanneTGC]

The Winchest from "Winchester '73".

[Cav Guy]

Tossup here. I quite like Col Mortimer's Colt with the shoulder stock from "For a Few Dollars More," but I'm also partial to the Preacher's Remington Army from "Pale Rider." Jim West's Peacemakers (the TV show, not that abortion of a movie) also have a soft spot for me.

[Ol' Fashioned Girl]

The phaser's good for me...

But I do SO like Gus' gun from Lonesome Dove. That sucker was a foot and a half long.

[Axler]

Yeah, Jim West's Colt with the coiled silver rattlesnake engraved on the black grip was cool.

When I wrote The Wild, Wild West comics mini-series I was anal that the artist, Darryl Banks, get that element of West's pistol right...it wasn't easy finding reference, but we managed.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/1/16/200px-Wwwco.jpg

Gus's pistol in Lonesome Dove was a Colt Dragoon, often known as a "horse pistol" because it was usually slung from a saddle horn. Only rarely were those guns carried in holsters because of their size and weight.

http://www.library.txstate.edu/swwc/ld/images/gusgun.jpeg

[dpaterso]

Interesting Death Hawk cover, I thought I was looking at Paul Gulacy's artwork (in a good complimentary way).

Heh heh, shooting a .690 caliber must be fun on the old wrist and shoulder.

I had that Man from UNCLE gun rig as a kid, in its flimsy little cutout box.

-Derek

[Jedi Dad]

Yeah, well, I assumed it would be something with a more "Old West" feel to it. But hey, lightsabers and M-14s are good. I guess.


Well if we are talking old west, you have to go with a Colt .45 for sidearm and a Winchester rifle. The way the Rifleman would fly off on that thing was awesome.

[C.bronco]

http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-weapons/303.htm

This is my favorite. It's the only one I can shoot standing and still hit the target. But I like the Swedish Mauser and Chinese sks too.

[Summonere]

General Electric M-134 mini-gun, from Predator.

[Festus]

I got to shoot a replica of Sellecks rifle from "Quigley Down Under" I was surprised by the acccuracy and the moderate recoil - I was expecting much worse, it was a nice firing gun.

I have a Colt peacemaker that I'm mighty fond of also. Before and after I had it modified, you could look down the sights and not reliably hit the side of a barn, but I found that if you point it like you would your finger, you can hit pert near anything - I rolled a soft drank can all over the ground shooting it like this at 30 ft - at least as long as the can lasted.

Another favorite of mine is my 1897 Winchester 12 ga. pump. These fine weapons saw a lot of action with the Texas Rangers and a host of others, including my grandpa.

Of course, the good old double barrel saw a lot of usage, mine is a 12ga, though I would like one of the old 10ga. Greener's like John Wayne used.

BTW, Haggis. I too loved the M-14, it was a mighty fine weapon.

[Axler]

Interesting Death Hawk cover, I thought I was looking at Paul Gulacy's artwork (in a good complimentary way).

The cover was penciled by the uber-talented Darryl Banks and colored by the mega-talented Melissa Martin.

Heh heh, shooting a .690 caliber must be fun on the old wrist and shoulder.

Actually, Adam Hughes introduced the Hawken .690 in the first full-length Death Hawk story...it was a lot harder on living targets that it was on his wrist and shoulder

http://www.comicspace.com/markaxlerellis/uploaded/3265/1171503842_nOPjpLo7kh.jpg

[Vanatru]

I always got a warm fuzzy from that gatling gun used in A Fistful of Dollars when Ramon and his group dressed up as yankies and shot up that mexican army group. That gun was hot.

Next to that would be the coaloil saber used by the Steam Jedi in Once Upon A Clockwork Time in the West. Nothing better than saber sizzling with steam. Hissss hisss hissss.

[Anthony Ravenscroft]

One that got away, sad to say -- but I have good thoughts about the now-defunct shop it was at.

Can't recall the calibre, but it was a Winchester lever-gun, an anniversary reissue of a buffalo-gun version, with a full-length stock & the three-inch tip-up windage sight. Basically it was meant to rest on a handy support, take slow aim, & bring down a target at mid-distance, but it felt totally natural in regular stance. I've always wanted a proper saddlegun, & (naturally) when I made up my mind & went back to get it, it was sold.

(If anyone's got a link about this model, please post!)

[triceretops]

My enforcement sidearm was the Colt Python, 357 maggy. So damned accurate I beat the pants off the rest of the officers. I've owned the Colt .45 and could hit a mountain with it. Had a Colt Troopers that was awesome too.

Owned and fired a M1 Garand (Tanker model w/flash supressor) chamber for .308. Wholly crap, she was all chrome and deadly as hell.

But...I've alway wanted that damn BAR in 30.06. Never got one.

Tri

[JeanneTGC]

This isn't really from a movie, and in some ways it's not a gun, either. But at our Renn Faire there is a pirate shop and they sell guns as well as the piratey junk. They have a small pearl-handled gun, looks like a Derringer, only it's set up as a mini-crossbow.

I have wanted that since the first time I saw it, and I see it every year and want it more and more.

[Bmwhtly]

Hmmm, interesting question. Fictional firearms from Western Fiction? well, surely Mal Reynolds' pistol from Firefly has to be the weapon of choice.

As to actual Western firearms with a bit of character? I like the idea of the Colt Frontier, a Peacemaker chambered for the same catridge as the Winchester rifle.
The Winchester Volcanic was an interesting idea, but I can't imagine that a lever-action pistol was all that practical.

Festus mentioned his 1897 pump-gun. Can you imagine when pump-action shotguns were first developed? carrying what looks like a single shot scatter-gun that'll fire and fire and fire. I bet that surprised a few bad guys.

[Cav Guy]

Fictional weapons? For me it would have to be the Scorpion pistol from the PS2 game Red Dead Revolver. Now that's a hard-hittin' hand cannon!

Gun has some decent weapons, but none in the same class as the Scorpion or the Widowmaker (my other choice, although there are some other nicely-rendered weapons in that game as well).

[Summonere]

Oh, westerns. Too late did I notice that this was all about western gear. In that case...

Tuco's revolver from The Good, The Bad, The Ugly. You know, the one he assembled from the parts of lesser revolvers to make a super revolver, the kind you don't have to aim to hit anything with. (And he wore it on a string around his neck. Cool, man. Cool.)

[Bmwhtly]

Gun has some decent weapons,yeah, the Ferguson .69 was a pretty rifle.
I didn't think of video games (Probably since there's so few Western games).

[Cav Guy]

yeah, the Ferguson .69 was a pretty rifle.
I didn't think of video games (Probably since there's so few Western games).
Three that I'm aware of (Red Ded, Gun, and a second Gun called Showdowns I think...haven't played it). I've heard rumors of a Red Ded 2, which would be sweet....:e2headban

[Bmwhtly]

Three that I'm aware of (Red Ded, Gun, and a second Gun called Showdowns I think...haven't played it). I've heard rumors of a Red Ded 2, which would be sweet....:e2headbanWell, the only games I play are on the PC. So that limits things to Gun and Call of Juarez (which was much better).

[Festus]

We'd like to interrupt this broadcast for shameless promotion of a challenge in SYW (Western).

We've got a challenge going on right now for stories involving the usage of unusual weapons - those apart from the normal Colt Pistols, Winchester Rifles and double barrel shotguns.

Only a couple of folks here have dipped their biscuits in the gravy, we'd like to see some more folks get to sopping in it!

We now return you to your regular show. :-)

[Bmwhtly]

I watched some Firefly over the weekend and would now like to add Zoe's cut-down repeater:
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5006/zoeyc0.jpgMay not be too practical, but it is characterful.

[JB_Finesse]

http://www.ingenting.f2s.com/images/Winchester%201887.jpg
The Winchester 1887 lever-action shotgun. Everyone should remember the cut-down version from Terminator 2.
http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lg6865.jpg
Those Colt Navy .36's that Clint used in a bunch of movies were pretty cool.
http://www.freedomarms.com/img/Guns.gif
These Freedom Arms 83's are based on the Colt SAA, except they're chambered in .454 Casull so some crazy bastard can hunt bears with them.

[The Grift]

Next to that would be the coaloil saber used by the Steam Jedi in Once Upon A Clockwork Time in the West. Nothing better than saber sizzling with steam. Hissss hisss hissss.

Vanatru, my google-fu is weak. Please advise what you are referencing here, it sounds intriguing.

Back to the original question. Old West guns with character? How about the Civil War era LeMat revolver? Just like your normal .44 cal revolver except there was a SHOTGUN under the barrel. Neat.

http://i19.tinypic.com/4kyyyyc.jpg

http://i14.tinypic.com/6aki7eq.jpg


Kind of like an old west version of Deckard's Detective Special Blaster from Blade Runner.

http://i16.tinypic.com/68bcvpi.jpg

[dpaterso]

Cav Guy featured the LeMat in one of his uploaded novel excerpts to good effect, I hadn't even heard of it, the spec is impressive, detailed in this article (just scroll down a couple of pages):

http://www.floridareenactorsonline.com/revolvers.htm

-Derek

[Vanatru]

Vanatru, my google-fu is weak. Please advise what you are referencing here, it sounds intriguing.

:) Sorry, that was my weak attempt at spoofing on those who somehow thought that non-firearms fit in with the thread. With a side throw to Starwars and some western movies. *sigh* Another effort in vain.

Alas, back to clown college for me. *sniff*

[The Grift]

See, I was gullible enough to fall for it. I have seen several Marvel comics and their characters magically transported to other times (Punisher in the Old West, the recent bunch of mini-series set in the early 17th century, etc etc) and Star Wars was once a Marvel property (now Dark Horse, I know.)

But I maintain that a steampunk Star Wars could be interesting... or horrible... take your pick.

[JeanneTGC]

Grift, those guns are totally cool! Where did you find them? Is there a url?

(Ummm, no, I'm not going to go to said url and drool and compare and research and somehow add them into my WIPs and see if I can find any to actually fondle in real life.)

(Well, maybe a little.)

[JB_Finesse]

Pretty sure he found them here (http://johno.myiglou.com/lemat.htm).

I remember a friend wanting some unique weapon for a character, so I suggested an updated version of the LeMat. Double-action, 10mm Auto with a 20-gauge shotgun barrel, stainless steel finish, and a better grip. And even though he killed off the character, another one kept the revolvers.

Here's what Deckard's pistol was based on.
http://www.theothersideofkim.com/images/uploads/2005files/Bedside_Bulldog.JPG
The Charter Arms Bulldog in .44 Special (not Magnum).

[cooltouch]

What's your favorite firearm from literature or movies?

Hmmm. Why does it always have to be just one?


Favorites in the movies/literature based on personal experience (in rough order of preference):

M-16
Colt 1911A1
Ruger Mini-14
Winchester Model 1200 pump
Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III SMLE
M-1 Garand
Wehrmacht Mauser K98

Best,

Michael

[The Grift]

Pretty sure he found them here (http://johno.myiglou.com/lemat.htm).



That's where I stole the pictures, but I don't remember where I originally discovered the LeMat.

Deckard's gun...well...I obviously found it from Blade Runner :)

Both the LeMat and Deckard's gun reminded me of this gem, which some of you might remember from your arcade days...

http://i18.tinypic.com/62du061.jpg

[Vanatru]

See, I was gullible enough to fall for it. I have seen several Marvel comics and their characters magically transported to other times (Punisher in the Old West, the recent bunch of mini-series set in the early 17th century, etc etc) and Star Wars was once a Marvel property (now Dark Horse, I know.)

But I maintain that a steampunk Star Wars could be interesting... or horrible... take your pick.

Funny you say that. After I did that little goof, I thought of how to incorporate into or a similar idea into one of my steampunk stories. Still haven't, but wanting to. :)

[Bmwhtly]

Thank you all, all this LeMat talk has cleared up a bit of a mystery that has been bothering me about Call of Juarez.

Like many video games, they don't give firearms there actual name (presumably to save on royalties and such). So the Schofield becomes the Quickshooter, the Frontier becomes the Border, the Peacemaker becomes the 1889 Classic.

And there is also a "Hybrid Gun" in one episode, a funny looking revolver that holds 8 pistol rounds and a single rifle round (in a seperate barrel under the normal). It even looks like This LeMat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Le_Mat_Revolver.jpg).

One more mystery solved!