Poetry Forum Workshops

[poetinahat]

The lovely, the talented p.h.delarran came up with this great idea: workshops on different types of poetry. Maybe as a "form of the month" thing, as someone suggested in the Wish List thread.

What do you think: anyone interested in being in, or even leading, a workshop on different types of poetry?

They could involve either reading or writing.

If so, what would you like to do -- and would you lead it? (ETA: Leading doesn't mean you have to be an expert in the subject; you'd just have to be interested.)

Some possible topics:

- Sonnets
- Sestinas
- The poetry of ... (name your poet)
- Beat poetry

What do you say?

[BBShopMom]

Sounds interesting. I in no way, shape or form could lead one but would love to learn all I can.

[P.H.Delarran]

Thank you, Rob!
Even if no one steps up to lead a form workshop, a Form of the Month, or Week even, would still be doable. We could post work we find, famous or not, that represents the form, and challenge each other to write to it as well. Etc.
I'm tired and can't think this through much further right now, but I wanted to bump this.
Anyway, I think it would be a great learning experience.

[ddgryphon]

Agreed. It is a capital idea.

[Norman D Gutter]

A good idea.

I would only say that, while enough recognized forms exist to keep this going a long time (if done monthly), most of these forms are terribly uncommon. What about mixing with this the study of various poetical devices? Meter, rhythym, line break, enjambment, assonance, consonnance, irony, tension, personnification etc., etc. gives another long list of topics.

NDG

[Annie O]

Great idea.

[JAlpha]

If there is is any interest in the haibun form, I'll conduct the workshop :Lecture:

Here are a couple of links to my haibun poems that were published by Flashquake http://flashquake.org/archive/vol4iss2/nonfiction/breakaway.html and Literary Mama http://www.literarymama.com/poetry/archives/000375.html

I have three more haibun poems forthcoming in the next issue of The Kennesaw Review and about a dozen more out for submission.

Additonal on-line samples of habun poetry can be viewed here http://poetrylives.com/CHO/

I love the haibun form, because it allows me to combine my interest in haiku, prose poetry and sudden fiction.

[P.H.Delarran]

If there is is any interest in the haibun form, I'll conduct the workshop :Lecture:

Here are a couple of links to my haibun poems that were published by Flashquake http://flashquake.org/archive/vol4iss2/nonfiction/breakaway.html and Literary Mama http://www.literarymama.com/poetry/archives/000375.html

I have three more haibun poems forthcoming in the next issue of The Kennesaw Review and about a dozen more out for submission.

Additonal on-line samples of habun poetry can be viewed here http://poetrylives.com/CHO/

I love the haibun form, because it allows me to combine my interest in haiku, prose poetry and sudden fiction.
Ohhh.. a volunteer?!!
Yes, I know I would participate.

[P.H.Delarran]

A good idea.

I would only say that, while enough recognized forms exist to keep this going a long time (if done monthly), most of these forms are terribly uncommon. What about mixing with this the study of various poetical devices? Meter, rhythym, line break, enjambment, assonance, consonnance, irony, tension, personnification etc., etc. gives another long list of topics.

NDG
See, now this is what I was hoping for. There is so much I don't know, (and others too?) and so many who do - why not share the wealth?

[poetinahat]

NOW we're cookin'.

Norman, your idea is superb. I think that, if we rev this up, it could make a huge difference here.

Janet, you've got two names on the sign-up sheet already. Does that make a quorum?

I've heard from someone else (won't steal his thunder) who's offered to do a workshop on a form of poetry about which I know nothing at all.

I'm excited about this!

[JAlpha]

NOW we're cookin'.

Janet, you've got two names on the sign-up sheet already. Does that make a quorum?




:Clap: enough of a quorum for me to start gathering materials and creating a workshop syllabus.

Long term, I'd also be willing to head up a concrete poetry and a found poetry workshop, but will wisely leave the workshop leadership of the rhymed and metered forms for the poets with an interest and strength in more formal poem structures.

[BBShopMom]

Very cool!! :hooray:

[poetinahat]

I've got a prospectus for one course -- very thorough, I might add. Look for it very soon!

Hey -- brainwave -- What about a CRITIQUING workshop?

I had no experience in critting when I got here; I just started offering my opinions, figuring I'd learn along the way. But some discussion of critting might help. Would anybody be interested?

[Pat~]

I like this workshop idea! If you're like me, it helps to see an example of a form while learning it, and a workshop will help motivate and inspire me to try new forms.

(Never heard of a halibun, so I'm attending that one!)

[KTC]

I missed this thread. What about a FREEFALL workshop. Anything goes...leave the parachute in the plane poetry?

I think the idea of different workshops is a great one. Kudos for dreaming it up. I look forward to the result.

[poetinahat]

Kevin, that'd be GREAT. You being a master of this form, would you be keen to be involved?

[poetinahat]

The redoubtable Writer??? has gone to great lengths to set up a workshop, coming very soon to the Poetry Discussion forum.

He'll be addressing the Redondilla, a form we haven't addressed hitherto.

Watch for it -- it'll be here very, very soon.

ETA: It's here! (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68225)

[Writer???]

OK, it's posted and ready to go.

Per our discussions, I guess just stickie it Rob.

Welcome to all willing to take part. I know a lot of people are not fond of form and rhyme these days, but I think we can have some fun and learn a bit while we're at it.

Thanks

[P.H.Delarran]

OK, it's posted and ready to go.

Per our discussions, I guess just stickie it Rob.

Welcome to all willing to take part. I know a lot of people are not fond of form and rhyme these days, but I think we can have some fun and learn a bit while we're at it.

Thanks
Thank you for taking this on!
Personally, I think the more I know, the better equipped I am to write the way that suits me best.

[Medievalist]

I don't know that this would interest y'all at all . .. I'd be willing to do something on reading poetry, close reading, or literary/rhetorical figures, or sonnets or I dunno ... pretty much anything y'all might like in terms of poetry before say 1900.

Yes, yes I do like the old stuff . . .

[P.H.Delarran]

All of the above?

I'm a glutton.
Definitely sonnets.
And reading..I don't even know what close reading is.
Yeah, all of the above.
OK, you pick.

[KTC]

Kevin, that'd be GREAT. You being a master of this form, would you be keen to be involved?

Sure. Let me give it a thinking.

I would have answered sooner, but seems I lost my cookies and I didn't notice! I thought the poetry forum was just slow. Turns out it was cut off. Oops.

Kevin, who is a bit slow on the uptake.

[Medievalist]

All of the above?

I'm a glutton.
Definitely sonnets.
And reading..I don't even know what close reading is.
Yeah, all of the above.
OK, you pick.

Keep in mind I can't write my way out of a paper bag -- but I read goodly :D

Close reading is a term from critical theory/ literary criticism. For snob value, call it explication de texte.

It means to read a small passage(s) of text very very carefully and closely, to consider the implications of the words, the connotations and denotations, and the way the words and the syntax and the literary devices all work together to create the text.

It doesn't mean that there is only one viable reading, but it does mean that you look very very closely at words. Here are some links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_reading

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~wricntr/documents/CloseReading.html

Most readers do this without realizing they are doing this.

[P.H.Delarran]

Interesting, thanks Lisa.

[poetinahat]

Okay, I posted a list of the workshops (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68634): what's coming up, and other ideas waiting to happen.

The Redondilla workshop is under way, and Writer??? has done an excellent job getting it going.

[Norman D Gutter]

Rob:

I see you have me down for a series of workshops. When I posted, I was actually making suggestions, not volunteering to lead. I'm taking a break from poetry, and will be scarce for a while. But I will get two workshops/discussions started: first on line breaks; second on enjambment. Fortunately I already have some material prepared and can get these going without a great effort.

I just need to concentrate on my prose for a while, and let this poetry addiction abate.

NDG

[poetinahat]

Norman, I'll make that update. Thank you!

I'll set aside those two workshops in your name for A Future Date.