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When I finished my novel...after almost 48 sleepless hours...I threw a title at the top and submitted it to the judges. Actually, I suppose it was two titles, but I saw it as one? I submitted it like this:
SEBASTIAN'S POET (OR SONGS FOR SEBBY)
After doing this...even if only to have a tentative title...I can't get past it?
Without knowing what the story is about, do either of these titles speak to anybody?
Now...a little backstory;
Sebastian is the narrator of this story that takes place in Toronto from 1970-1980. The poet is the man (a poet/folksinger) who comes in and saves him and his brother from their imploding family life.
Songs for Sebby is the title of one of the poet's albums.
Meerkat
10-10-2007, 12:27 AM
"Sebastian's Poet" sounds slightly stuffy. I don't know why, but I get an image of Mr. Belvedere with that title!
"Songs for Sebby" is more engaging and makes me want to find out who Sebby is...
EITHER WAY--best of success with the submission, Kevin!
Merry
10-10-2007, 12:31 AM
What's wrong with both? I seem to (vaguely) recall seeing other novels with subtitles in brackets, and with the two titles you've chosen I think it might work, too. :)
Novelhistorian
10-10-2007, 12:44 AM
Dunno why, because I usually go for literary titles, but neither of these grab me. Maybe the title could reflect an action, so that the songs are doing something, not just hanging there.
Or, if you want to keep the basic idea, think of similarly titled books (Song of Solomon, The Executioner's Song, Songs of the Kings) and why they might strike a chord. One plays on a Biblical reference; the second mixes two unlikely elements, which is intriguing; and the third evokes ancient storytelling. Sebby, though an unusual nickname, doesn't exert the same kind of pull. There's nothing wrong with that, but the broader and more powerful an image you suggest, the more appealing your story.
JoNightshade
10-10-2007, 12:47 AM
I definitely like Songs for Sebby.
CaroGirl
10-10-2007, 12:48 AM
I like Sebastian's Poet. I think it sounds nice with just a hint of intrigue; as in, what does it mean? I don't like Sebby's Song at all. If you don't want the first title, my suggestion is to find another. Then again, I'm crap at titles anyway, especially my own.
Esopha
10-10-2007, 12:52 AM
I like Songs for Sebby, but I think you have to make a decision based on the overall tone of the book. Songs for Sebby definitely gives a more playful, less literary feel than Sebasitan's Poet.
Could you do something like Sebastian's Song? Or is there a no-alliteration rule?
ccarver30
10-10-2007, 01:04 AM
My boyfriend's name is Sebastian and it is a strong name- girls swoon all the time over it, let me tell ya. I don't really like either title, but I think it should have Sebastian's full name in it!
maddythemad
10-10-2007, 01:10 AM
I vote Sebastian's Poet. Good luck, KTC!
kristie911
10-10-2007, 01:11 AM
Of the two, I like Sebastian's Poet. But it's not a title that would grab me, and definitely not something that would make me pull the book off the shelf. (If I didn't know you! ;) )
PeeDee
10-10-2007, 01:13 AM
What's wrong with both? I seem to (vaguely) recall seeing other novels with subtitles in brackets, and with the two titles you've chosen I think it might work, too. :)
There's some book called Moby Dick, or The Whale which a few people have read.
I'd do both. They're okay, I guess, by themselves, but I like them together.
kristie911
10-10-2007, 01:16 AM
Actually, I agree with Pete.* I like them both, rather than separate.
*What's up with that? ;)
maestrowork
10-10-2007, 01:25 AM
I like Sebastian's Poet better. Anything title with the word "song" in it gives me the willies.
RedScylla
10-10-2007, 01:27 AM
Sebastian seems too stuffy, and Sebby seems too "fruity." Not quite the word I'm looking for, but what I mean is "not like a real name." Of course, you can't completely trust me, because I'm naturally averse to books whose titles feature "poet" or "song" in them. Not sure why...maybe I've encountered too many that were sappy?
jannawrites
10-10-2007, 01:47 AM
I do really like Sebastian's Poet. The name grabs me; I love flowy, old-fashioned monikers. And that title is simplistic, yet intriguing.
Whatever you decide, good luck! :)
mscelina
10-10-2007, 01:49 AM
I'd use them both, but get rid of the 'or' and the parentheses.
Sebastian's Poet
Songs for Sebby
I can visualize the first title in larger print and the second just below in smaller.
*shrug* but then I'm odd.
Thank you to all for your thoughts on this. You've really helped me out and given me much to think about.
Except for redzilla (-; Sebby and Sebastian are used throughout the novel...so it seems I have a stuffy fruit on my hands. Why am I now picturing a twelve year-old Frasier Crane? Thank you forever, Red!
Had I been thinking straight, I would have put both as an option?
maestrowork
10-10-2007, 02:08 AM
Both would be too much, IMHO, Sebastian/Sebby Poet/Song... I need my Mucinex!
Scrawler
10-10-2007, 02:41 AM
WWithout knowing what the story is about...
I voted something else.
Songs for Sebastian or
Sebastian's Song
a_sharp
10-10-2007, 03:02 AM
"Sebastian's Poet" has an intriguing flavor. Can anyone actually own a poet? Like a pet dog? It's not the usual use of "poet" so I'm interested.
"Song" anywhere in a title doesn't do it for me, implies sappy, romantic, light. I know, many famous titles, yada-yada, but you asked. I vote no on the subtitle idea anyway.
I think I may let Songs for Sebby die. It seems many see it as sappy and are tired of the over-use. But it does come into play in the novel...the poet gifts Sebby an album that he titled for him...Songs for Sebby. Maybe even that is sappy...but I didn't overplay it really. Thanks again guys.
kristie911
10-10-2007, 03:23 AM
I'd use them both, but get rid of the 'or' and the parentheses.
Sebastian's Poet
Songs for Sebby
I can visualize the first title in larger print and the second just below in smaller.
I like that. But I would add a : between the titles. But I can picture it on the front of the book...
Sebastian's Poet:
Songs For Sebby
Great, now I'm as weird as mscelina. :)
scarletpeaches
10-10-2007, 03:27 AM
What about something with 'bard' in the title?
melaniehoo
10-10-2007, 03:30 AM
I voted for Song's for Sebby - I'd be curious about a charcter named Sebby, more so than Sebastian, and it'd make me read the back of the book.
Good luck with whatever you choose!
Soccer Mom
10-10-2007, 03:33 AM
Neither one grabs me, although of the two I like Sebastian's Poet better. I like hearing the full name rather than "Sebby".
gingerwoman
10-10-2007, 03:57 AM
SEBASTIAN'S POET (OR SONGS FOR SEBBY)
I voted for Sebastian's Poet. Songs for Sebby was kind of uggg for me.
I'm thinking you're a literary guy and Sebastian's Poet is more literary.
Songs for Sebby sounds like comedy or ManLit
Ziljon
10-10-2007, 04:06 AM
Neither grabs me. I'd be more interested in a book entitled:
"He saved us from imploding"
or
"The almost imploding family".
I like the word "imploding."
Wolvel
10-10-2007, 07:46 AM
I voted for something else, but if I had to choose it would be Sebastian's Poet.
That Songs for Sebby sounds like a mushy romance novel title to me.
Just my 0.02 cents.
maestrowork
10-10-2007, 07:58 AM
For some reason "Song" just sounds cheesy. I don't know why.
wood pixie
10-10-2007, 08:45 AM
Actually the title I like is a combination of the two.
"Songs for Sebastian"
I've been brainstorming for something new. Nothing has risen from the mire as of yet. Still thinking...
Garpy
10-10-2007, 05:43 PM
Sebastian's Poet
Sounds mysterious. Curiosity is just about the most important emotion to stir in a casual book-buyer.
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