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The japanese eat weird stuff anyway. Like, I don't know about you, but I'm not going to bury my veggies in corn meal and wait for them to go a little off to eat em...

<shrugs>

Pickled apricots, plums and eggs... just... no.
 

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I have yet to see a prediction of "hot" new genre come out of RWA and land on a bookshelf. Anywhere. Ever.

*shrug*

/me frying up eggs and toasting bagels to go with the spam
 

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Anyone calling a member of the Living Impaired anything as vulgar and insensitive as...vampire would be subject to a number of hate crime lawsuits and mental anguish cases. I'm sure, Mr. P3enny, that we could settle this in an out of court settlement...say...10 million dollars?

And lets not even start on the racial bungling of calling a member of the Lythrocampy Association of America a werewolf...sigh, I think you should really curb your offensive language and change your entire stance to one of a more politically correct and free of legal distinctions.
 

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Why do we keep posting if it's just going to put this malicious scammer spam junk on the front page?

Oh, wait.
 
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Interesting that Robert Fletcher actually made an appearance instead of his "Sherry" alter ego.
 

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I picture him a bit like Count Olaf from A Series of Unfortunate Events. He always wore the most absurd disguises which didn't fool the kids at all but oddly everyone else.
 

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High noon this coming Saturday. Be there, "Sheriff Sherry."

:popcorn: (Oh, I know Sheriff Sherry won't be comin' up with anything, but still...)

Does this mean that, as Sherry stated in the email from Dave, that y'all will be at the OK corral wrasslin' starfish? :D

~Nancy
 
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I too was almost a victim of this company. Luckily I was curious about how easy this process seemed to be going so I thought I should do a little research. Thank you all for this website you saved me a lot of trouble. I was so happy at first when they replied and I found that someone was interested in my work. Then all their automated responses and no contact information made me curious. I will post the latest reply from my good friend sherry here. Just for new reference. Now back to my process of self publishing which I was originally going to do.


Congratulations and my warmest wishes for our mutual success! And
again, we
thank you for your understanding and your acceptance of our business
philosophy. We look forward to working with you and because you have
indicated such a strong commitment to your work you can rest assured
that we
will be excited and committed to doing what we can to work just as hard
for
you!


PLEASE READ THIS INFORMATION CAREFULLY AS IT WILL SAVE YOU TIME AND
REDUCE
YOUR STRESS (and mine!):

Please note: If you asked a question in a prior email, I may have
chosen not
to answer it in the hopes that this email will address your question or
concern. If it does not, please feel free to email me the question
again. My
main goal is to get the contract process underway. We have plenty of
time
for questions now that we are going to work together.

1. Attached is our Contract for Agency Representation.
===================================================
It is simple and straightforward. We think it is fair. It is also
non-negotiable. I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have,
but
99% of the time we will not make a change to it if requested. If you
want
to have a lawyer look at it, by all means do so, but we've spent great
time
and energy with our lawyers making it simple enough for a business
person to
understand. If you spend any appreciable amount with your attorney, you
are
probably wasting money. By all means get advice, but we think this
contract
is pretty simple.

You will notice that to reduce paperwork, mailing, and administrative
costs,
we offer an "electronic signature option". We hope you will consider
that
option.


We know signing contracts can be scary.
========================================
In general though, you don't have to be nervous because you can back
out
very easily. Within the contract we very clearly state that your 'out'
from
the contract is that you can fire us if we don't perform or you don't
like
our services for any reason. This rarely happens, but it's there for
you if
you want it. Also, we can fire you too, so please, let's keep our
relationship professional.

Your work is completely safe and remains your work. You keep your
copyright
and this contract is only for the work you submit, not all your works.
(You
can discuss other works later with your agent). We want to work with
you on
all your work, but we process them one at a time (except sequels which
your
agent will discuss with you if you have one).

We are not trying to tie your hands in any way, and as you will see
from the
contract, we only get paid if you get paid. There are no other payments
to
us. There are no fees paid to us unless we sell your work. Period, no
surprises. However, if we say that your work needs work, and that you
had
better get an editor to help you, is that a fee? We don't think so,
but
some authors do (which I can't for the life of me understand.) So, you
commit to the quality of your work, and we commit to try to sell it.
It's a
pretty straightforward business relationship.



We suggest that you use the "electronic signature" option.
==========================================================
Mailing is a pain! So, use the electronic signature option please.
However,
if you choose to mail the contract, the address is within the document.
If
you mail it please allow up to 30 days to receive the counter-signed
contract back in the mail. The contracts are sent to our NY office and
depending on the travel schedule of our President, it may take that
long to
get them signed and back to you. If you use the electronic signature
option, you'll have our countersigned contract within a week.



Critique/Evaluation Process
===============================================
As we mentioned in the prior email, if you have a critique or
evaluation
similar in format to those we sent you earlier please send it to us
along
with your contract. (Don't email it separately, we have a hard time
matching
it up. Simply print it and put it with your contract). If you want us
to
tell you if what you have is acceptable then email it to me as quickly
as
you can.

If you don't have a critique and you are using our referral, we ask
that you
get the critique started in parallel with sending in the contract. Send
in
your contract at the same time you are getting your critique. Don't
wait for
the critique to send in your contract.

If you do not have a critique, please email the following address and
tell
them that we referred you.

[email protected]
All you have to say is "Sherry referred me".


They will send you a very clear set of instructions on how to proceed
with
the critique, how to send your manuscript, payment, etc. We refer them
so
much business that they offer a discounted price to referrals that we
send
them. We send them so much business that they will prioritize your
work and
this will speed up the entire process. We can also lean on them if we
need
to make them work more quickly!

When they complete your critique they will send it to you and to us at
the
same time. Remember, we are unique in that we are willing to help you
develop your talent, so there is no need to worry about what the
critique
will say.

We know that you will improve as a writer as a result of having this
critique. It's a nice gift to give yourself as an aspiring writer!
Invest
in yourself, the more you do, the better your chances are.



What's Next?
=================
During the next 30 days we should receive your contract and your
critique
should be completed. Once we receive your contract and your critique is
finished and in our hands, you will be put in touch with your Agent.

The Agent will then become your primary contact and will answer
questions,
guide you, and hopefully, before too long, come to you with the good
news of
a sale! (Note: we never, never promise a sale, that's a checkbox for
you
within the contract by the way).

I am happy to answer any further questions that you may have.

I have enjoyed our interaction. My sincere best wishes for your
writing
career.

Best regards,
Sherry - VP Acquisitions



A Few Frequently Asked Questions
(I can't resist, you know me by now)
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Please send the contract in parallel with getting the critique. That
way
we'll have you in the system when the critique is finished. Don't
wait to
send in the contract until your critique is completed. Send the
contract in
immediately. Use the electronic signature option unless you really,
really
want it the old fashioned way.

If you need an extension, simply email me and we automatically grant
one, so
don't stress if for some reason you haven't heard from me. Non-US
authors
are automatically granted an extension.

If you have a critique already please be sure it matches the
thoroughness of
the critique example we sent you. If it doesn't we will reject it. If
you
want me to look at it just email it to me. Frankly, you will save a
lot of
time and aggravation if you use our referral.

What's Next? Once the critique process is complete you will be
connected to
the Agent that will be working with you. You will discuss 'next steps'
based on the results of the critique. As we mentioned in a previous
email,
we are willing to develop talent so there is no need to worry unduly
about
the results of the critique.

We look forward to working with you. Once we receive your contract and
enter
it into our system you will receive an email confirmation.



Please note:
============
If for some reason you don't get your electronic signature contract
back in
a timely fashion (say 10 days) please resend it to me and I will
forward it
for you.


Now for the bad news....
============================
I have enjoyed interacting with you but my role with you is now
finished. I
am in charge of new author acquisitions only. If you need help with
something let me know though, and I'll endeavor to assist you.

If you have questions after this point. Please email
[email protected]. Andrea is our Director of Client Relations
and
her job is to assist the agents (and you) for the duration of our
agreement.

Now, back to drinking from the proverbial fire hose! I sincerely wish
you
the best.

Best regards,
Sherry - VP Acquisitions



p.s. One more time. It's this easy....

A. Get your critique in to us.
B. Prep your work. Meet your agent.
C. Become a best seller!
 

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Time's A Runnin' Out for "Sheriff Sherry"

Writer Beware stands ready in the OK corral, with our Shootin' Irons of Truth slung low on our gunbelts.

We're ready for the showdown.

Why do I think that Bouncin' Bobby, in the personal of "Sheriff Sherry" won't show?

Just call me,

High Noon
aka Ann C. Crispin
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www.writerbeware.com
 

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The showdown will be the first thing to check Monday morning! Can hardly wait! After all, Sherry called it!
Can't wait to see those book sales!

Oh, wait ... there are no book sales ... Sherry lies like a tattered rug ... there probably is no Sherry ... there isn't really a literary agency ... just that lone tumbleweed drifting by ... *sigh* ... stupid Mondays.

Hi, Sherry! :e2point: :e2tongue: :e2moon:
 

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You're right, Sherry is Robert. Famous for pseudonyms. I made the newbie mistake of sending a query, received the request for ms (Word attachment OK!), then "We want to represent you," and all that jazz. I should have known better. My wife said, "You better check this gal out." Belatedly, I checked on NY Writer's Agency at Writers Beware. I then sent e-mail to "Sherry, or Robert, or whoever you're calling yourself. Please destroy my submission, if you haven't already done so." "Sherry" (still insisting to be Sherry) replied with an e-mail saying they have been persecuted without any substantiation, they have "changed." Sounded like a confession of wrongdoing right there.
 

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If you have a critique already please be sure it matches the thoroughness of the critique example we sent you. If it doesn't we will reject it. If you want me to look at it just email it to me. Frankly, you will save a lot of time and aggravation if you use our referral.

How else are they going to get you to pay the $90? Sure, you can use any critique, but if you don't pay them for theirs, yours won't be good enough.
 

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All you have to say is "Sherry referred me".
Apparently this was a poetry submission. Poetry is a small, non-lucrative market; except for really well-known writers or celebrity projects, literary agents don't represent poets. A literary agency that claims to represent poetry is almost by definition either dishonest or amateur.
p.s. One more time. It's this easy....

A. Get your critique in to us.
B. Prep your work. Meet your agent.
C. Become a best seller!
Well, gosh darn. Sherry has just revealed the Secret of Publishing! Don't all us industry dinosaurs who've been saying for years that there are no shortcuts have egg on our faces now.

- Victoria

P.S. to Sherry: Chomp, chomp.
 

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I don't know why but my jaw dropped reading that letter. The part where you send electronically your signature but don't waste any more of your money with a lawyer YOU know. Yikes.
 

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"Dear Moderator - Once again I ask you to engage us in a public debate about these issues. I'll answer any question you want and we can both post the answers on our websites so there will be no "spin doctoring" of the answers.

If your message board is all about helping writers, then why won't you debate us? The innuendo and wrong data you are promulgating are hurting writers and we think a nice public debate would help everyone.

Help us help the industry, those boards are running amok and they need a good dose of reality. They won't come out of their dark little holes and debate us, but we keep trying.

Tell 'em I said, "high noon at the OK corral" (grin).

Sheriff Sherry (grin)
"It's time to clean up dogtown"


Here I am at the OK Corral, waitin' for twelve noon. I've got my trusty scattergun with me. It's loaded an' I'm a-waitin' for Sheriff Sherry.

Where is that polecat? If'n the varmint don't show guess it proves she's nothin' but a gol-durn liar, scammer, fraud, and thief.

Ya hear that, "Sheriff Sherry"? You done been called out! What're ya gonna do about it?

Here're the questions, "Sherry." And answers like "I think we live in airport lounges" or "our client list is confidential" won't cut it. Not here. Not today.

Questions:

1. What are the titles, authors, publishers, and dates of all books sold by you (under whatever name) or by your agency (under whatever name) from 2001 to date?

(If you answer no other questions, answer that one. It's the most important one.)

2. What is your actual address (not the address of your mail forwarding services)?

3. How many clients do you currently have?

4. How many clients have you had, in total, since 2001?

5. How much does your typical client spend on critiques, edits, webpages, etc.? How about your average client?

6. What is your prior experience in publishing?

7. Same question, for Robert Fletcher, Robert West, Georgina Orr, Hil Mallory, Mary Bluestone, Mark Bredt, Leticia Gomez, Andrea, Jennifer Dublino, and all other names associated with your agency (under whatever name).

8. Have any publishers taken your offer to pay them to take one of your clients' books? If so, did the client provide the money?

9. What is your legal name?

10. When are you going to file those threatened lawsuits?


Sunset in Boca Raton is at 8:10 pm EDT tonight. I expect full answers to all of those questions. Right here, in public, like you say you want.

There will be follow-up questions too, "Sheriff Sherry." They'll probably come from this list, but I won't make any promises.
 

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The tension is mounting. There's less than an hour before the showdown. Will the "fake sheriff" Sherry or any of the wild bunch from WL show up?
 

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One of the posters at Making Light made the astute observation that WL Writers' Literary Agency is running the classic "Spanish Prisoner" scam.

In the original version that gave this scam its name, back in the days of the Armada, this was the story:

A certain very rich and powerful lord has been imprisoned by the perfidious Spaniards, who are asking for ransom. The Spaniards, however, do not realize who they have captured. While the man could easily pay the ransom himself, to do so would reveal his real identity and he would surely be tortured and killed by the Inquisition!

Thus, you have the opportunity to pay his ransom (a trifling amount -- the Spaniards don't know who they have!). On his return to England he will be immensely grateful and will reward you richly.

So you pay the ransom, only to hear that there's a new obstacle. He needs to obtain a passport. A small sum is needed to pay for this vitally necessary document!

So you pay for the passport. Now he needs to buy passage back to England. A small expense but he cannot pay it himself without revealing his true identity. He is very rich and will reward you well!

Oh no! He must get a visa for that passport! The fee for that is but a trifle compared with the riches that will be yours once he returns to England! He's a lord!

Alas! Due to unforeseen circumstances he failed to board his ship! A new passage must be arranged, but the price is small. Not only will he be grateful, he'll probably make you his heir if you purchase it for him.

Woe! His ship was captured by the Spanish, and he is again a prisoner! But a corrupt judge will let him go free if you will but pay the bribe the judge requires....

And so, endlessly, on, until the mark runs out of money or gets tired of paying it.

The same scam is current today in the Nigerian 419 email spam/scams. A deposed dictator has millions of UNITED STATES DOLLARS in a bank account which he cannot touch. If you will but provide a bank account number in the USA he will transfer the funds to that account and will reward you with some of those millions.

Dearie me! In order to release those funds to the bank account you have provided, he has to obtain a foreign exchange license. A small sum is required from you in order to pay for that license.

The license has been obtained, but it has to get a seal from the Ministry of Finance! This could take years, but an official there will, in return for a small amount of cash, expedite the process.

The Ministry of Finance seal has been obtained! But the government, suspecting that the ex-dictator will attempt to take the money out of the country, has marked it all with indelible ink so it cannot be spent! Fortunately, indelible ink remover is available, for a small cost....

And so on, until the mark runs out of money or runs out of patience (or, in some sad cases, travels to Nigeria to find out what's up and is never heard from again).

In the same way, WL Writers' Literary Agency's scam:

Your book has commercial potential! We will happily represent it (successful agents that we are), but first there's one minor formality for the protection of both of us. You must get your manuscript evaluated by an impartial third party. A minor expense, since you have a potential best-seller!

Good news! You got a "3 yes" review! One minor thing -- the third-party critique revealed that your book needs to be edited. The cost of editing your book will be small, however, and it has such great commercial potential.

Your book has been edited, but so far there have been no takers. The one thing that's required to get publishers to take notice is a webpage! By great good luck we can offer a good deal on the sort of professional webpage that publishers are looking for.

I'm sorry to say that the market is tight right now, and while there were a number of nibbles from your webpage what you really need is an aggressive agent. The cost for an aggressive agent is low compared to the potential rewards, so we recommend that you hire one forthwith!

And so on, until the mark runs out of money or runs out of patience.
 

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Alas, Sherry failed to show. Seems like Sherry isn't a sheriff after all. She's merely a skulker in the night.
 

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She didn't post any questions for me, that's all. (If, for example, she wanted to know what I'd published (she doesn't think any, but I could set her straight) I'd send her here: http://www.sff.net/people/doylemacdonald/biblio.htm)

She still has until 8:10 pm EDT to answer my questions.

Yo, "Sherry"! You still trying to figure out what your legal name is?
 
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