Urgent: Making Light needs help salvaging its recent message base

Matera the Mad · May 3, 2008

This makes me feel bad.

It reminds me painfully of suggestions I made in another place, that people should "adopt" threads and save things to their own hard drives and archive them on CDs and so on. No one does, of course. People are relying more and more on the Internet for their own backups, keeping their e-mail on line, everything. I want my data on redundant CDs some of which might end up buried in my back yard. Paranoia is good. My own website went up in flames once in a server meltdown. I had my own backups. That would not be easy for a larger, many-user site with a huge database.

I wish I had been to ML more often, I might have collected some good bits. I wish you all the best of luck in the salvage efforts.

SpookyWriter · May 3, 2008

Here's another link:

http://www.gigablast.com/index.php?q=http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/&submit.x=29&submit.y=6

SpookyWriter · May 3, 2008

Bump:

Google command: cache:http://www.nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/

http://72.14.205.104/search?hl=en&q=cache:http://www.nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/

Making Light Archives
April 2008 * March 2008 * February 2008

Shweta · May 3, 2008

I'm just gonna go through the March and April archives I found and save every thread with comments.

I can do this much, and I think I'd be better off doing it rather than explaining badly how to do it

If there are other useful things to do, maybe someone else should do those?

SpookyWriter · May 3, 2008

Shweta said:
I'm just gonna go through the March and April archives I found and save every thread with comments.

I can do this much, and I think I'd be better off doing it rather than explaining badly how to do it
If there are other useful things to do, maybe someone else should do those?

Have you tried the link I provided? Everything is there up till April 27th.

Shweta · May 3, 2008

I've tried some of the links you provided, Spooky, but not all -- trying to save what I can in the ways I know and trusting other people to follow up on other aspects of the problem

The big question is actually -- can you get at comments in the 200s? I can get everything, and am in the process of doing so, from March and April this year -- except that I cannot get at comments past (depending on the thread) about 160-200.

SpookyWriter · May 3, 2008

Use google and enter this into the search feature:

cache:http://www.nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/

Copy and paste the whole line. Everything from makinglight is cached in one location.

Good luck. I hope this helps.

Jon

Shweta · May 3, 2008

Uh, did that already. I'm several steps off of that. Only, the caches don't seem to save all comments...

SpookyWriter · May 3, 2008

Good luck. I don't suspect there is anymore I can do.

Shweta · May 3, 2008

Not actually sure there's much more anybody can do, except with helping them pull it all back into a webpage, but I'm hoping someone can magically find late comments in threads

Thank you!

Shweta · May 3, 2008

Here's what I just posted as a comment on the ML refugee camp techie thread.

Shweta Narayan on Sunday 4 May 2008 at 03:24

What I have saved: The numbers are (number of comments saved/total number claimed by cache).

The starred lines are ones where I have incomplete comments. I'm going to post the links here and on Absolute Write and ask other people to pretty please click them & see if they get more comments. They're in cache. I just can't get them. Not sure why.

March 1, 2008, Department of Who’s Surprised?: 66/66
March 3, 2008, Can you read this?: 53/53
March 3, 2008, All come singing: 69/69
* March 4, 2008, Greyhawk’s flags at half-staff: 199.5/253
March 11, 2008, Phase one: collect underpants: 265/265
* March 13, 2008, Open thread 103: 221/936
March 16, 2008, Literary Divination, A Parlour Game: 106/106
March 18, 2008, Arthur C. Clarke, 1917-2008: 177/177
March 20, 2008, Going to need a bigger laser: 174/174
* March 28, 2008, Open thread 104: 238.5/931
March 28, 2008, Divided by common errors: 34/34
* March 30, 2008, The photograph that terrorized London: 202.5/204
March 31, 2008, Deep Values: 434/434
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April 1, Amsterdam: 70/70
April 4, 2008, Pity the Times: 167/167
April 4, 2008, Forty Years Gone: 70/70
* April 6, 2008, Heads they win; tails we lose: 174.5/320
April 6, 2008, Some must employ the scythe: 126/126
April 9, 2008, Don’t Miss the Deadline: 25/25
April 11, 2008, Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009: 32/32
April 12, 2008, A book by its cover: 37/37
* April 13, 2008, Could lead to goose-stepping: 150.5/469
April 13, 2008, Bury my acorns at Wounded Knee: 87/87
* April 14, 2008, Open thread 105: 215/906
April 16, 2008, Newsweek invents an alarming trend: 217/217
April 16, 2008, Housekeeping: 7/7
April 17, 2008, Little Brother: 180/180
April 22, 2008, NBC News calls Penn for Hillary: 124/124
April 23, 2008, Live in San Francisco, it’s TNH!: 18/18
April 24, 2008, The Rather Difficult Font Game: 125/125 (yahoo cache)
April 25, 2008, Indistinguishable from parody: 152/152
April 26, 2008, Eric Clapton, White Power enthusiast: 105/105
April 26, 2008, Feeling the Heat: 32/32 (msn cache)
April 26, 2008, Teresa in the Observer: 13/13
April 26, 2008, SFWA election results: 45/45
April 27, 2008, “Where do people find the time?”: 198/198
April 27, 2008, Open thread 106: 107/107

ETA: Michael Roberts found much more recent stuff on Open Thread 106, and sent PNH 285 of 285.

Shweta · May 3, 2008

Forgive me the repeat posts. Split for clarity.
If your answer is yes to questions below, please save page as some reasonable name.html
And pm or email me, or post here.

* March 4, 2008, Greyhawk’s flags at half-staff: Can anyone get further down than post 200?
* March 13, 2008, Open thread 103: Can anyone get further down than post 222?
* March 28, 2008, Open thread 104: Can anyone get further down than post 239?
* March 30, 2008, The photograph that terrorized London: Can anyone get down to post 204?
* April 6, 2008, Heads they win; tails we lose: Can anyone get further down than post 175?
* April 13, 2008, Could lead to goose-stepping: Can anyone get further down than post 151?
* April 14, 2008, Open thread 105: Can anyone get further down than post 215?

Old Hack · May 4, 2008

Bumping...

If I could collect cache, I would. But I can't on this horribly slow dial-up connection. Fingers crossed that Making Light is salvaged.

Shweta · May 4, 2008

Update: can anyone find comments 333-386 of the "darwin fish found" thread?

I found the cache here, but in my browser it bottoms out at 200.

Dawno · May 4, 2008

Making Light is back up!

Shweta · May 4, 2008

Urgent: Making Light needs help salvaging its recent message base

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