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Ann said:Ah, but the flu became epidemic after July 23, 1957! All your fault!! LOL
It's time to take this to the Take it Outside Board cuz I have some words about that as well!
Ann said:Ah, but the flu became epidemic after July 23, 1957! All your fault!! LOL
That is about the funniest thing I've seen in weeks. Jenna, you're brilliant. Um, I gotta question to ask. Can I take a punchie, too?JennaGlatzer said:I'm not even wagering a guess on Pacific time. Ed?
Meanwhile, I shall try to further tempt Kevin with the punching bag I've just made for him. (Yes, you can all have turns with it.)
Ed Williams said:Here's some interesting verbiage from a Massachusetts based newspaper concerning an upcoming PA release:
Not exactly a ringing endorsement, huh? It's getting pretty bad when PA authors are hit with stuff like this before their books are even released.
You can read the entire article here:
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/05-05/05-07-05/c01li413.htm
Gratian Gasparri said:What is sickening about the whole thing is that being molested is one of the most traumatic experiences anyone can suffer, particuarly a young child. The trauma is lifelong as one never fully recovers this side of Heaven.
Phooey, I'm going to miss it. After today my life becomes my own again, which doesn't help me out a bit at 2:00 today. Somebody fill me in when it's over?Ann said:So, we are talking 11:15 PTfor Jenna's broadcast, for us on the west coast?
I gave her a copy to review and based on it, ordered 20 copies for a signing.
I ordered fifty books and got them in ten days. Someone else ordered three from Borders in Madison, Wisconsin,
and got them in a week.
I received confirmation on 4-18 for 100 books and they arrived yesterday.
In the "let's talk about bashers" category, we have these nuggets:But fortunately when I ordered 50 and others I know have ordered several at a time they got them promptly.
The attacks won't stop until these bashers all file backruptcy, which is the next phase of this thing.
Brother Ed, Jenna, give those "mothers" up at PA a special radio gift on this Mother's Day!and he wanted to know which Publishing Company....I told him PA....and he attempted to Bashed PA...and I stopped him dead in his tracks....
changling said:Ahh, wonderful posted info. Which includes an e-mail addy. He should be venturing this way for information.
Hoping to attend XXX College in XXX, and to become a full time novelist.
If anyone can help me...
I'll do that.Ann said:Hi Sherry,
Ed will probably archieve it like he did last weeks' broadcast and you can hear it later. That's how I got to hear it.
Have a Happy Day.
Originally Posted by Gratian Gasparri What is sickening about the whole thing is that being molested is one of the most traumatic experiences anyone can suffer, particuarly a young child. The trauma is lifelong as one never fully recovers this side of Heaven.
I haven't read what that woman wrote, so I don't know how good or bad it is. I also don't know the extent of her abuse, or how much therapy she received before writing her book. I would hope she did have some therapy before deciding to have a book print about her abusive.Aconite said:A hopeful word: We human are resiliant creatures. There is no trauma we cannot fully recover from ("fully recover from" is not to be confused with "forget about" or "be unaffected by"). This woman can indeed fully recover from that horrible experience, and I strongly urge her to get professional help in doing so. Surviving trauma need not leave us "broken people" all our lives.
What this tells me is that either these other publishers are vanity, or else this person has made a huge, huge mistake. Will be interesting to see what he says about six or eight months after his book comes out..."It was a lot of work finding a publisher," he said. "I sent tons of query letters to publishers and I actually got more positive feedback than anticipated. Right before I chose a publisher, I had four with genuine interest. One of them was a New England publisher, but it had some concerns about competition because another book -- one written from a very different angle -- came out in 2004. Another was interested, but didn’t want to go to print until 2006. I eventually chose PublishAmerica, and literally two days after signing a contract with them, I received another contract offer.
"I was excited about getting the ‘yes’ from PublishAmerica, but I was constantly wondering, ‘What if?’ I knew nothing about them and they were clearly the (least) known of the others who showed interest. PublishAmerica, however, has done everything I wanted to come out of this. Simply print the book without me paying to have it done."
Interestingly enough, I did email Mr. Thornton for a copy of his article, and the email itself bounced....A PUBLISHING SCANDAL INVOLVING RANDOM HOUSE AND COPYRIGHT CLEARANCE CENTER, INC. A fair use/permission overcharge scheme. Also an excellent primer for journalists on fair use/permissions law.Shawn Thorton has written a 2,500 word article about the fair use/permissions scheme and offers the whole article or the right to simply extract the facts from that article to all journalists at no charge. See the press release for details.
/24-7PressRelease.com/ - April 13, 2005 - During the first quarter of 2005 PublishAmerica published Shawn Patrick Thornton's non-fiction book, IN DEFENSE OF THE CHRIST: WHY JESUS WOULD DISOWN CHRISTIANITY, ISBN 1-4137-4613-6.While seeking permission for republication of various excerpts for this book Shawn encountered a fair use/permission overcharge scheme at both Random House, New York and Copyright Clearance Center, Inc.
Any journalist may request an article written by Shawn Patrick Thornton about that overcharge scheme setting out the law, the relevant facts, the application of the law to the facts and then a proposed solution to what may be a wide-spread publishing industry problem. Simply contact Shawn at [email protected] and he will E-mail a print-ready copy of that article, as well as grant its cost free use.
As an alternative, any journalist may extract the facts (E-mails from Random House, legal items, etc) from that article and then write his or her own version, provided that a summary of In Defense of the Christ: Why Jesus would Disown Christianity (similar to the one in the article), the books ISBN number and the author's name is included in that article. And, that a copy of the newly written article, or of Shawn's original article, with the name and date of the publication is E-mailed to Shawn Patrick Thornton at the above E-mail address. The legal discussion, although very carefully done, can be easily compared with various legal summaries of fair use/permissions law on the Web. Journalists may also request an Adobe 6 Reader copy of Shawn's book at no cost.
Ed Williams said:What this tells me is that either these other publishers are vanity...
NOW I question why so many of us received these e-mails? I sure hope this is not a new approach to the basher campaign?
In other words, PA books and reputable bookstores don't go well together, how interesting!What I have found is that since bookstores don't readily take POD titles with a no-return, they don't typically buy the books for the signing. They also may not agree to having them on consignment. That takes up precious bookshelf space.
If you have a friendship or working relationship with a bookstore person, then you might be in a different situation.
Simply put, and with no malice intended, the odds of an unknown author selling out at a booksigning is pretty minimal.And if you had your book in, let's say B&N or Borders, and they brought your book in and ran out during the event... you brought extras, what do you do then. What kind of agreement is "the norm."
PA books don't have a professional appearance? Surely you jest!If you were to bring your own books to a signing and the bookstore were to have some on hand, you would need to negotiate with them on what their cut of the profit would be.
Just be really sure that books have plenty of time to get to the store so you aren't handed a big snafu!
Also, check the books to be sure that they all look OK. Things happen in production. At least they did with me.
Frankly, a PA book deal is nothing, you're just experiencing the manifestations.when I had my first signing at Hastings, I furnished the books with a 60/40 split. My part being the 60.
I only sold one book, but did receive enough to pay for the book, with the 60%.
It may not be all that good a deal, but at least it's better than nothing.
Let's say you buy your own book from PA - it retails for $20, and PA generously sells it to you for $10 a copy. You take this book into this bookstore, and the store wants 40% of the cover price. The math would dictate that you'll make $2 a book ($20 retail, less $8 bookstore profit, less $10 personal investment in the book). Unless you sell massive quantities, what's the point from a "dollars in your pocket" standpoint? Is it the exposure potential? If a purchaser reads the book, refers it to a friend, and that friend decides to go purchase it in the bookstore, all your exposure hopes go right down the drain.I`m having my first signing on Friday. Ottaker`s (UK) have bought approximately 30 books, but I said that I shall bring some copies along, in case a miracle occurs and they sell out. It is important to strike a deal with the shop manager before the signing; try to agree a price (percentage) between yourselves. I have no idea what it`s going to be, but I suggest that the 60 / 40 % split is a good general guideline. Anything above that is a bonus.
Mam, they won't run out, ask Bonnie Gibson how fast most of the PA titles in her bookstore sold...I would talk with each manager and find out what they expect. If they run out, that means they made their money anything over that should be yours, especially if you supply the books. We don't get them for free and need to make money as well
For most PA authors, anything in their pocket more than $2 or $3 would exceed their royalty checks...my last two signings were a 70/30 split and 60/40 split, with me getting the larger share. As stated earlier in the thread, the store is paid for their building use and their staff's time in ringing up the sale. After the signing, they tabulated the total sales and gave me my share...cash! It was not so bad; I made more than I would have in royalties.
James D. Macdonald said:It's true: If you're a PA author and get an e-mail from a stranger asking about PA, it's really a basher in disguise, writing under a false name. Give it to him with both barrels! He deserves it.
JennaGlatzer said:Just stopping in to say don't forget Ed's radio show! I'm sipping tea and singing scales to warm up... couldn't sleep last night, so pardon me if I sound particularly "sexy."
Dawno said:I'm trying to connect now and the 'operation timed out' keeps coming up. Do you think everyone on AW is trying to get a listen and we're stressing the bandwidth?