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Old 03-23-2007, 05:18 PM   #1
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Mark Wahlberg "Shooter" (Rolls Eyes)
What is Hollywood's and I'm guessing America's fascination with pansies playing these kinds of rolls? My 12 year old daughter could kick Mark Wahlbergs ass. Tell me please who can believe in the Mark Wahlbergs, Tom Cruises, Pierce Brosnans, Brad Pitts, and the list goes on and on. I don't want to see a movie where someone is in this kind of roll whose ass I can kick much less a 12 year old girl.
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I enjoy Wahlberg's performances a great deal. Loved his character in The Departed.

I'll agree with your assessment on the others, however. Pitt as Achilles? Puh-leeze.
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I've not seen The Departed. I canceled my NetFlix subscription to free up time to write. I've no idea if the guy can act or not, it's his demeanor that is bothersome. Maybe it was just the show I saw him on (some awards show). He acted fairly effeminately and looked like he weighed about 90 lbs.
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"pansies"?

It's either the Mark Wahlbergs and Tom Cruises, or it's the Vin Diesels and Dwayne Johnsons. Take yer pick. Me, I'm happy with Dirk Diggler, he's proved he can act, and act tough when needed.

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"or it's the Vin Diesels and Dwayne Johnsons. Take yer pick.
Yeah, that's the other extreme. I don't want them playing the role either. You should be able to speak English if starring in a movie to be shown in America and that rules them out.
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Yeah, that's the other extreme. I don't want them playing the role either. You should be able to speak English if starring in a movie to be shown in America and that rules them out.
Oh, be fair. I don't know who Dwayne Johnson is, but I've seen an interview with Vin Diesel, and he's an articulate and smart fellow.

I think Wahlberg could do well in a variety of roles. He seems to know what he's doing.
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Dwayne Johnson, aka "The Rock."

To be fair, he's not a dummy, at all. Of course no one can compare to the genius that is Tom Cruise, but that just goes without saying...
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Dwayne Johnson, aka "The Rock."

To be fair, he's not a dummy, at all. Of course no one can compare to the genius that is Tom Cruise, but that just goes without saying...
I don't know who Dwayne is either. That he allows himself to be called "The Rock" speaks volumes though. I'm so snobby aren't I?

Tom is without a doubt one of the dumbest people on the globe. When he holds the cans at his Scientology meetings they must send some juice through them.

Why can't actors just entertain and then stfu?
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Oh, be fair. I don't know who Dwayne Johnson is, but I've seen an interview with Vin Diesel, and he's an articulate and smart fellow.

I think Wahlberg could do well in a variety of roles. He seems to know what he's doing.
You mean like this one? http://youtube.com/watch?v=oppHK5a-Rlw

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Achilles would'a made you weeds his bitches.
The "maniac leap and lightning stab to the neck" has got to be the all-time weeniest attempt at creating a "cool killing move" that has ever been put on film. I laughed so hard when I saw it, I fell out of my seat. I know that's not really Brad's fault, but still...
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The "maniac leap and lightning stab to the neck" has got to be the all-time weeniest attempt at creating a "cool killing move" that has ever been put on film. I laughed so hard when I saw it, I fell out of my seat. I know that's not really Brad's fault, but still...
I don't think anyone is short enough that Brad could stab standing flat footed.
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?? According to IMDB, he's 5' 11". Not exactly Vince Vaughn, but not Tom Cruise, either. I always thought the killing stroke move he did in Troy was based on some artwork of the past (on a vase or something). Maybe not, though, because I can't find anything online.
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?? According to IMDB, he's 5' 11". Not exactly Vince Vaughn, but not Tom Cruise, either. I always thought the killing stroke move he did in Troy was based on some artwork of the past (on a vase or something). Maybe not, though, because I can't find anything online.
I didn't mean he was short like most of the others, but he is teeny tiny. This thread is confirming what I already suspected but was hoping wasn't true.

More and more Americans like a man that looks and acts like a woman. Effeminate and yet in possession of male genitals. I'm sorry, but it is just weird to me. I'll check out The Departed. Maybe then I will convert. Perhaps start wearing ribbons in my hair.
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No, I liked it. It showed from the get-go that Achilles possessed superhuman attributes without needlessly getting mired in the legend (son of a sea goddess, etc.*). Achilles' fearless charge culminating in the single surgical artery-slashing downward stroke that laid out the giant Boagrius was more effective than anything I'd seen before. I don't understand your reaction but that's OK, we're all different.

* In a previous TROY discussion someone mentioned that another audience member's girlfriend leaned closed and asked how come getting hit by an arrow in the heel had such an effect on Achilles, which is the downside to not repeating the legend.

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Mark Wahlberg will always be Marky Mark to me. As much as I like a lot of his movies, I still see him leaping around in his underwear, third nipple on display, and rapping about some rubbish or another.

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I've got a lot of time for Mark Wahlberg, he's done some really good stuff (see The Departed. Four Brothers. Three Kings)

But this does look like a load of Mince, generic Hollywood crappity crap.
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No, it was an older interview. (Maybe he had too much coffee that day. I think that interviewer needs a new day job.)I didn't see that movie yet either, but the trailer looked funny.
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Tom Cruise, that's a whole other story. I think he has an exceedingly average intellect and no clue whatsoever how to use it. When election for The Chosen One comes up, I'll vote for KTC hands down.
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Someone named Anne Hathaway.
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Old 03-23-2007, 06:49 PM   #21
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Someone named Anne Hathaway.
She's nice looking but better quit playing goofy roles. Barbara Feldon was sexuhhh.
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What is Hollywood's and I'm guessing America's fascination with pansies playing these kinds of rolls? My 12 year old daughter could kick Mark Wahlbergs ass. Tell me please who can believe in the Mark Wahlbergs, Tom Cruises, Pierce Brosnans, Brad Pitts, and the list goes on and on. I don't want to see a movie where someone is in this kind of roll whose ass I can kick much less a 12 year old girl.
Have you read the book "Shooter"'s based on? If you had, you'd see that Wahlberg is actually a pretty good fit for the role. Not as old as Swagger's supposed to be, but still a pretty good fit, IMO.
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I didn't see that remake of Walking Tall. The original was just way too good to be toyed with. (Yay Joe Don Baker!)
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I didn't see that remake of Walking Tall. The original was just way too good to be toyed with. (Yay Joe Don Baker!)
*Redneck Voice* You got that right!
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I didn't see that remake of Walking Tall. The original was just way too good to be toyed with. (Yay Joe Don Baker!)
Well, it wasn't the original story. This was the story of a soldier returning home to find his town overrun by crime and corruption. It was remake in name only. Typical Rock action fare.
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