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Old 10-23-2007, 02:48 AM   #1
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Um if you're feeling bad about yourself, check this out...don't think anyone's ever hated my stuff more.

I had to prod this agent after she'd had my full for 3 months:


Shady Lane:

I'm sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Now that have had a chance to take a look at your book, I am going to have to pass. The voice and the plot are not strong enough to grab and hold the reader's attention. I kept thinking, "so where are we going with this?" and that's not good. You have to add some element to the plot that make it more compelling. And at least one character has to be truly sympathetic, and I did not find that to be the case with any of them.

I guess the book is just not for me. Maybe another agent will feel differently.






Not to be a snark, but there are quite a few grammar issues in this letter.

I'm not upset about it. I just laughed, mumbled, "oh shit!" and let it go.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:51 AM   #2
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Shady -- I know this might not be what you want to hear, but as someone who writes rejections regularly, there's a wealth of stuff to look at and think about in that letter, grammar issues or not...and NO ONE writes a personal rejection without actually meaning to be helpful.

Or we can just have a martini and you can send it to the next one.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:07 AM   #5
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yikes. thanks for sharing--that is very brave. sometimes other agents do see prose differently, though.
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I've heard of much worse rejections. This agent requested a full, and the complaints are fixable.

I think you're on to something.

ETA: I just got a partial rejection where the agent gave no feedback and misspelled the title of my book. So there.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:08 AM   #7
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Exactly. I'm sure it stings, but it sounds like your novel is thisclose.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:08 AM   #8
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That's a very personal rejection. He could have just said, "Thanks but not thanks" and sent you on your merry way. Feedback like that is pretty rare. In any case, good luck on your next submission!
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Ursula K. LeGuin's rejection letter for Left Hand of Darkness

(Which won both a Hugo and a Nebula, when it was eventually published.)
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(Which won both a Hugo and a Nebula, when it was eventually published.)
Well, that sure makes me feel better. "Dry and airless"....wow. Just...wow.



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She cared enough to give you good feedback: it must be worth the time she took to read it and comment!
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Ho man.
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(Which won both a Hugo and a Nebula, when it was eventually published.)
Holy cow! That was a great book too. Reading this gives me hope. It should give everyone hope. Hang in there, Shady.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:14 AM   #14
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Haha, no worries, guys. I just posted it for your entertainment. I'm not upset/angry about it.

I know the ms in question needs work...but it's one I'm currently despising and not in the mood to work on AT ALL.

So I know I'm definitely to blame, and I did send a very nice email back thanking her for her time and comments. So no worries there.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:29 AM   #15
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And if you guys haven't read Slushkiller yet (from a then-acquiring editor at Tor) -- Get thee hence and read!
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Oh my God! That made me laugh so hard I coughed. (Still getting over bronchitis)

Empirical storm troopers? Reeking havoc? LOL

I'm changing my avatar to read "Smelly chaos" I swear...

Sorry about the rejection, Shady.
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Wow. There was some ugly stuff in there but that's what we throw ourselves into. I've got to say that you're taking this with more maturity then I would, and I'm 39! Outside of the martini offer (I'll gladly drink that for you), you've got a slough of folks here that can turn you onto any fixes, or tell you that the agent was whacked! Keep hammering out the stuff; you're libel to be a solid, published author decades before me and many others.

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Haha, thanks, darlin. I hate feeling like a crybaby

It's no big deal. Just leaves me free for DREAM AGENT *angelic sparkly chorus*
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I'm so confused, Shady. I thought you got a glowing review from an agent and were about to sign with her. Isn't that the "Chrsitmastime" revision request in your sig?
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Only if she likes my revision! It's sort of an egg/basket sort of thing.

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Interesting - I just linked my husband to that rejection of the Left Hand of Darkness, and he said he completely agrees with the points it made. I wouldn't go that far, but Left Hand is not exactly my cup of tea.

So it really depends on where you're coming from and what you like, I guess.
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Eek, that is a... strong reaction (which is possibly good? hmmm?), but it's only one person's reaction, so. *shrugs* Think about the advice, then see if it can be applied. (And I am still keeping my fingers crossed for Dream Agent! )

...the rejection for Left Hand of Darkness makes me cringe. D:
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Interesting - I just linked my husband to that rejection of the Left Hand of Darkness, and he said he completely agrees with the points it made. I wouldn't go that far, but Left Hand is not exactly my cup of tea.

So it really depends on where you're coming from and what you like, I guess.
I'm with you and your husband. Everyone keeps bringing up that rejection for LHOD as though it somehow proves that agents and editors are, or can be, complete idiots. But all it really "proves" is that not everyone has the same tastes.
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I don't think agents and editors are idiots at all. All it really says -- and all it's really meant to say -- is that good books get rejected too. You just have to find the right place for the good book.
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look, shady, at least you have the balls to send the query off. i have been "honing" a query since mid september. how is that for pathetic?--s6
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