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Authors Literary Agency (Stephanne Dennis)

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I tried searching the threads and posts, but couldn't find Stephanne Dennis listed. Nor could I find her agency Authors Literary Agency. There was the note next to it on P&E that it is
A literary agency in Tennessee. Not associated with the similarly named agency in Texas. Thoughts?

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edited for another question - What do agents and others mean when they say commerical fiction? I'm thinking it isn't fantasy.
 
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Ms. Dennis is a PA author (the book has a 2005 pub date). There's nothing in her bio to indicate what, if any, professional publishing or agenting experience she may have.

Her website says she "works with" the publishers she lists, which I would imagine just means she submits to them. Her Coming Soon page appears to show two sales, but neither are to trade/commercial presses. The sale to Springer Praxis (an academic publisher) is ambiguously worded (she doesn't say "we sold this book" but "we are working to bring it to publication," which may mean something different)--and the other "sale" is to Pine Winds Press, a micropress that does not look as if it pays advances, and which the author could probably have approached on his own with a fair anticipation of success, since it specializes in the subject of his book.

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The sale to Springer Praxis (an academic publisher) is ambiguously worded (she doesn't say "we sold this book" but "we are working to bring it to publication," which may mean something different)

I'd bet the farm it does. Praxis has a call for direct submissions
on its website; it's a small niche science publisher that's distributed by Springer-Verlag, and almost certainly doesn't deal with literary agents more than once in a blue moon.
 

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Well...

Since you asked - I used to be affiliated with a different agency that I left due to not agreeing with the way they conduct business and was an associate agent - which in their eyes meant "do lots of work, get no credit". For the record, I don't deal with a publisher unless they are willing to offer an advance - even the micropresses will offer them if the work suits what they're looking for. Authors' Literary Agency, Inc. was founded in June, 2007. Lastly, the fact that I published with PA years ago was what prompted me to become an agent - I was tired of 'publishing companies' fleecing authors. (Please note that I am in no way referring to PA as a legit publisher).

Check back, I'm sure I'll get the "coming soon" page up to your standards within a few months. In the meantime, best to all :)
 

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...and

...the reference to the Texas agency is because there was a DBA in Texas that was under the same name, so P&E was distinguising that there is no connection or affiliation.

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I don't think it's appropriate to state what agency I was with. If I was giving them stellar praise I wouldn't have issue with it; but as I am not... I don't want to be accused of slander or anything similar.

As far as contacts, I have hundreds from the large presses to the smaller, independent ones. I go to NYC to maintain these relationships quarterly. Please let me state that I'm only posting here because I wanted to be sure that PA and old TX agency weren't confused with my company as I have taken a lot of care to be sure I'm am not affiliated with either.

I can't, however, apologize for my agency being new, for lack of being able to discuss any prior deals/info from my former agency, or for the fact that I've only been in the industry for two years. I work hard and do my very best by my authors and am very open with what I feel I am allowed to be open with. Hope that's enough to appease everyone. There's a lot agents out there - some reputable and some not - so if my agency doesn't fit someone's needs, I wish them well and no hard feelings and give the same advice everyone should give: research your potential agency. Again, my reason for posting here is simply that I don't want to be considered with the "unreputable" agents.
 

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Again, my reason for posting here is simply that I don't want to be considered with the "unreputable" agents.

The world's biggest and oldest literary agencies have threads about them in this forum, too; a "background check" isn't a "beware", though this forum is for both.

If you don't want to disclose the names of previous employers, that's certainly your right.

So I guess the question is, then, as someone with only a few months' experience in the industry that you're willing to discuss, what added value do you bring to the table for authors?

Most people who are new to the field of literary agency have either years of experience from the editorial side, or years of apprenticeship at an established agency, to offer their clients. Obviously, everyone has to start somewhere, but "literary agent" usually isn't someone's first job in publishing. Do you have experience in other related fields (law, communications, marketing)?
 
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I simply saw "Bewares and Background Check" and seeing my name near a "beware" of any type grabs ones' attention, ya know?

What can I bring to the table?... well, I'd be happy to chime in on what our side of business is like. Granted, I had quite a few contacts from before, but as a new agency, we have hurdles as well, obviously. Establishing new authors was the first hurdle because I wasn't legally allowed to take any of my old clients.

As far as something I really see: I think one of the biggest hurdles for new authors is simply the lack of attention they receive. The highly established agents are exceedingly hard to obtain and the new agents are also flooded by submissions in fairly quick fashion. I personally receive about 100 raw queries a month and, even with a submissions analyst, it is increasingly hard to make it through.

Also, I was with the prior agency as an associate agent for a year before leaving their employ.
 
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Also, I was with the prior agency as an associate agent for a year before leaving their employ.

If you don't discuss this (and I understand that this is your choice), nobody can evaluate the relevance of that experience. I'm not saying this to find fault, but just to point out that if you choose not to discuss the experience, it really doesn't exist as a factor in potential clients' evaluations of what you bring to the table.

Look at this from a potential client's perspective: they have no way of knowing whether you were an associate agent with the Most Awesome Agency Ever, or the Least Ethical Agency Ever, or the Least Competent Agency Ever, or whether you were ever even an associate agent anywhere.

This is not an issue specific to literary agency, but common to business in general: the reason people give prospective clients a c.v. or resume or bio is so those clients can get a quick sense of what their experience is, and whether it's relevant to their needs.

If you were hiring a designer for your website, and a designer who was pitching for your work said, "I designed a bunch of websites between 2006 and 2007, but I choose not to tell you what they are," wouldn't you be likely just to ignore that assertion and focus instead on the prior work he or she did choose to discuss?
 

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:) Well, obviously I personally consider them to lean more towards "The Least" on one or more fronts... which I am open with regarding my reason for my leaving.

Again, I'm not trying to negate the fact that my agency is new or that I cannot boast years of experience. I'm open and okay with that. If we want to say I have no experience because I'm not comfortable saying which agency I left, I'm ok with that. My client list will grow commensurate with my verifiable experience, which is understandable. I don't try to hide any of these facts and, in the end, if a potential client chooses a different agent, I'm okay with that also.

I abide by all of the AAR standards and I work hard to obtain and retain clients. I reiterate that I simply didn't want my name - as an agent - associated with PA or with an agency [TX DBA] that wasn't ethical.

Best to all.
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That's a good question right now.
How long ago did you publish with PA? How did you, as an individual with industry knowledge, come to publish with PA? Did you not recognize that their contract and business practices were non-standard?
 

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I don't think it's appropriate to state what agency I was with. If I was giving them stellar praise I wouldn't have issue with it; but as I am not... I don't want to be accused of slander or anything similar.

So long as you speak only the truth, you can't be convicted of slander: similarly, if you write only the truth, you can't be convicted of libel.

Moving on, I suspect your inability to tell us which agent you worked with before setting out on your own is going to count against you here: but there is a way around it. You could send the details to one of the moderators here (Birol has all ready posted in this thread, and so is the obvious choice) via a private message. Might that work?
 

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Hi,

Curiosity strikes me, if maybe SDennis has been released from whatever agency she worked for in the past, under a situation similar to what PA did to a lot of its authors -- including myself -- when we tried to have our contracts terminated? Could it be that the agency in question gave Ms. Dennis a gag order, making it contractually illegal for her to mention the said agency in a negative manner?

In other words, a non-disparagement agreement.

It's just a thought. I don't know what's going on, but having dealt with a publishing company that was less than legitimate before, and having had to deal with just such a stipulation as a condition of their granting me release from their contract (BTW, they eventually released me altogether because I didn't market my book for them -- but that's a story for another time), I can see a less-than-legitimate company possibly putting this agent through that kind of drill.

Like I said, it's only a thought. YMMV.
 

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You could send the details to one of the moderators here (Birol has all ready posted in this thread, and so is the obvious choice) via a private message. Might that work?

Stephanne, you could also send the info to [email protected]. I'd keep the specifics confidential, but I could note that you did respond, and give my opinion of the agency (I'm aware that's a double-edged sword, but I agree with Old Hack that withholding this information is going to continue to raise doubt).

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Again, I'm not trying to negate the fact that my agency is new or that I cannot boast years of experience. I'm open and okay with that. If we want to say I have no experience because I'm not comfortable saying which agency I left, I'm ok with that. My client list will grow commensurate with my verifiable experience, which is understandable. I don't try to hide any of these facts and, in the end, if a potential client chooses a different agent, I'm okay with that also.

Cool. That's a very reasonable statement.

So I guess what my point is is this: apart from the work experience you're choosing not to discuss, what other experiences/skills/qualities do you bring to the table as a new agent?

Are you an avid reader? Have you worked in allied fields (marketing, communications, advertising, intellectual property law, etc.)? Does your experience as a writer shape your approach to being an agent?

I abide by all of the AAR standards and I work hard to obtain and retain clients.

Also cool. But you have the opportunity to sell yourself to thousands of people here--what's your unique selling proposition (as they say in business school)? What do you have to offer that other agents may not?

I reiterate that I simply didn't want my name - as an agent - associated with PA or with an agency [TX DBA] that wasn't ethical.

Good point. And I think the clarification on Preditors and Editors is a big step forward right there, and following up here shows great thoroughness.

But as a former marketing communications/brand identity consultant myself, I'd ask you this: why not change your company's name? It seems like you're damaging your brand identity by having the same name as a fraudulent company in the same line of work. Since you've only been in business a few months, the risk-to-return ratio of finding a new, unsullied name seems very strong to me.
 

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So I guess what my point is is this: apart from the work experience you're choosing not to discuss, what other experiences/skills/qualities do you bring to the table as a new agent?Are you an avid reader? Have you worked in allied fields (marketing, communications, advertising, intellectual property law, etc.)? Does your experience as a writer shape your approach to being an agent?

I am a very avid reader and have been since a young age. I love fiction though I mainly represent non-fiction. My most closely related field of work would be as a technical writer and communications analyst for a very large, national company for 5+ years (non-publishing related industry). My education is in business management and I'm considering maybe looking into a master's program in the next 1-2 years after my kids are more self-sufficient (of driving age, etc).


But you have the opportunity to sell yourself to thousands of people here--what's your unique selling proposition (as they say in business school)? What do you have to offer that other agents may not?

I wasn't kidding when I said I really wasn't trying to 'sell' myself to new clients here (but I didn't want to scare them, either!). My most marketable trait would be in my tenacity... and maybe also that I really try to encourage authors (and people in general) to stick to their passions. In this industry it is so hard to become dissuaded or feel like all we see is rejection. I try very hard to let authors know that rejection is the biggest part of the job and I try desperately to keep their spirits up and confident about their works.

And I think the clarification on Preditors and Editors is a big step forward right there, and following up here shows great thoroughness. But as a former marketing communications/brand identity consultant myself, I'd ask you this: why not change your company's name? It seems like you're damaging your brand identity by having the same name as a fraudulent company in the same line of work. Since you've only been in business a few months, the risk-to-return ratio of finding a new, unsullied name seems very strong to me.

Ah, alas - I can chalk this up to spending a few thousand dollars on incorporation and legal fees, letterhead, business cards, domain name, etc. before realizing an icky 'agency' (to use the term loosely!) was doing business with a name similar to mine a few years ago... So, truth be told, I didn't feel I could afford all the fees a second time. They aren't around anymore, and haven't been for awhile, so I'm hoping that won't affect my branding in the long run. I haven't had any issue with publishers in that regard, and only minimal questions by potential clients, so I haven't stressed over it too much.

...on a totally unrelated note, sorry for the lag in response but I 'had my eyes done' and (for the record) LASIK is like a miracle for those of us who never could wear contacts (and wore glasses since childhood)! That being said, I'm probably going to be M.I.A. catching up on some work (and trying not to 'stress' my eyes, whatever that means). :D
 
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I looked at the Dennis agency website. The preponderance of errors in spelling, grammar and punctuation are disconcerting. I don't expect that from an agent.
 

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I looked at the Dennis agency website. The preponderance of errors in spelling, grammar and punctuation are disconcerting. I don't expect that from an agent.

On fees

There is, and never will be, an 'up front charge' to the author - regardless of the reading, amount of editing needed, etc.
 

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I'm a little concerned that Ms Dennis has asked for information about a vanity press here in the Bewares board:

http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95685

Just by looking at the website concerned it was apparent to me that the publisher concerned was a vanity: I'd be very reluctant to use an agent who seemed unable to tell. I could be wrong: she could be finding out about them for some other reason. But for me, it doesn't bode well.