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ChristineR

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I think they're claiming that they'll publish out of the Hh slush, so your "chance" is that you'll get picked up--which is kind of hard to believe, given that most of the Hh line is planned to be books they've already rejected.

Looking at the percentage of vanity that gets picked up, and the percentage that HarperCollins has picked up off of Authonomy, I'd say your chances are extremely low. Lulu and others on the far (honest) end of the self/vanity spectrum are viable for certain books and people with the right skills, but those don't even apply here.
 

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You were lucky if you could find out the name of the actual author of Gold Eagle books rather than the house name, and most people never knew who was really writing them. (Many people would be stunned to learn Don Pendleton died many years ago.)

Well, I was fortunate in that since I created the Outlanders series, Harlequin was contractually obligated to put my real name in the indicia of the books.

However, that didn't keep the former Executive Editor from trying to remove it whenever he thought I wasn't looking...the whole concept of a fan-following for a particular writer rather than a series is anathema to them.

As it is, it still rankles them I'm the only Gold Eagle writer who they have to send royalty statements to. Really irritates 'em.

Don Pendleton isn't listed as the author of the Mack Bolan/Executioner books...the cover copy reads:

Don Pendleton's
THE EXECUTIONER

And so forth.
 
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I think they're claiming that they'll publish out of the Hh slush, so your "chance" is that you'll get picked up--which is kind of hard to believe, given that most of the Hh line is planned to be books they've already rejected.

Looking at the percentage of vanity that gets picked up, and the percentage that HarperCollins has picked up off of Authonomy, I'd say your chances are extremely low. Lulu and others on the far (honest) end of the self/vanity spectrum are viable for certain books and people with the right skills, but those don't even apply here.

I think that's why most of us are upset - it's just not HONEST advertising. Sure, you *might* get picked out of the Ho line, but... it's just not true. You'd be better off buying lottery tickets.

imo, of course.
 

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Can I just say how much I'm loving the "HQHo" term? I hope it catches on.
 

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I'm not arguing against all self-publishing, by the way. For some writers, in some circumstances, it's the right choice. What bugs me is the "self-publishing can work for anyone!" line that so many self-pub services (and self-pub advocates) try to sell. It can't, and it doesn't. I'd love to see more honesty about that in the self-pub industry.

- Victoria

Hear, hear!
 

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*delurks*

Victoria, do you know if Thomas Nelson directs rejected submissions to West Bow?

Because beyond the general ick of HQHO, the fact that all HQ rejections would include a suggestion to go to HQHO is one of the things that really set people off.

*goes back to lurking*
 

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I think that's why most of us are upset - it's just not HONEST advertising. Sure, you *might* get picked out of the Ho line, but... it's just not true. You'd be better off buying lottery tickets.

imo, of course.


Heck, if you had a breakout best seller from Booklocker, I bet you'd have the exact same chance of "traditional" Harlequin publication that a breakout bestseller from Harlequin Rejects would get.
 

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Although I suppose that sentence could be parced as if it's the new venture that is the lifeblood of the publisher...
 

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They already had that chance, and they sent the author a rejection letter.

This is the equivalent of asking a young lady for a date, and having her reply, "No, but my sister who works down at Aunt Bawdy's House of Joy will be glad to take care of you (for a fee)."
 

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Thank goodness for e-publishing!!! Er... but not Carina methinks.
 

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Mystery Writers of America weighs in:

Recently, Harlequin Enterprises launched two new business ventures aimed at aspiring writers, the Harlequin Horizons self-publishing program and the eHarlequin Manuscript Critique service (aka "Learn to Write"), both of which are widely promoted on its website and embedded in the manuscript submission guidelines for all of its imprints.

Mystery Writers of America (MWA) is deeply concerned about the troubling conflict-of-interest issues created by these ventures, particularly the potentially misleading way they are marketed to aspiring writers on the Harlequin website.

It is common for disreputable publishers to try to profit from aspiring writers by steering them to their own for-pay editorial, marketing, and publishing services. The implication is that by paying for those services, the writer is more likely to sell his manuscript to the publisher. Harlequin recommends the "eHarlequin Manuscript Critique Service" in the text of its manuscript submission guidelines for all of its imprints and include a link to "Harlequin Horizons," its new self-publishing arm, without any indication that these are advertisements.

That, coupled with the fact that these businesses share the Harlequin name, may mislead writers into believing they can enhance their chances of being published by Harlequin by paying for these services. Offering these services violates long-standing MWA rules for inclusion on our Approved Publishers List.

On November 9, Mystery Writers of America sent a letter to Harlequin about the "eHarlequin Manuscript Critique Service," notifying Harlequin that it is in violation of our rules and suggesting steps that Harlequin could take to remain on our Approved Publishers list. The steps outlined at that time included removing mention of this for-pay service entirely from its manuscript submission guidelines, clearly identifying any mention of this program as paid advertisement, and, adding prominent disclaimers that this venture was totally unaffiliated with the editorial side of Harlequin, and that paying for this service is not a factor in the consideration of manuscripts. Since that letter went out, Harlequin has launched "Harlequin Horizons," a self-publishing program.

MWA's November 9 letter asks that Harlequin respond to our concerns and recommendations by December 15. We look forward to receiving their response and working with them to protect the interests of aspiring writers. If MWA and Harlequin are unable to reach an agreement, MWA will take appropriate action which may include removing Harlequin from the list of MWA approved publishers, declining future membership applications from authors published by Harlequin and declaring that books published by Harlequin will not be eligible for the Edgar Awards.

We are taking this action because we believe it is vitally important to alert our members of unethical and predatory publishing practices that take advantage of their desire to be published. We respect Harlequin and its authors and hope the company will take the appropriate corrective measures.


This e-bulletin was prepared by Margery Flax on behalf of MWA's National Board of Directors.
 

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Hypothetical question: what do you think Harlequin's going to do with all this bad press and with all these writer associations taking them off their approved-publishers lists? I'd be very surprised if other associations don't follow the suit of RWA and MWA