What's correct... comma vs. period

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Not quite ANY book - 99.999 percent do dialog the correct, standard, universally accepted way, but James Frey's "A Million Little Pieces" does not.

Yet one more reason not to read it.

But, if my comment came across as personally rude, I hereby apologize. It's just that we've all seen any number of questions posted here that could be so easily answered in the simplest manner just by looking at books, and then, even when answered, argued with. It does get a little exasperating.

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I've also seen differences between books printed in the UK and ones printed in the US. Thought that was interesting.
 

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I don't understand how a simple question can turn into something like this. I'm newly introduced to writing novel length pieces, not creative writing like we all once did in elementary school. Just because I have "Any romance author I can get my hands on." in my profile doesn't automatically give me the knowledge of someone who has an English degree. It's just like giving someone a lot of books to read about how to build a house. Just because the person reads all those books doesn't mean they're going to automatically know how to build a nice, sturdy house.
 

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Fair enough, but it's neither practical nor possible to expect to be shown everything. If you even now check your specific examples against the novels on your shelf you won't find any of them.

Beta readers are usually used after a novel has been edited and polished.

Anyway, enough about that. Welcome, :Hug2: and further visits to the SYW Forum will give you comments and tips upon what you have already written but do say you are a beginner and wish to be treated gently if that is so.

In the Novels Forum there's a very large but excellent thread called Learn Writing with Uncle Jim. Well worth the time to explore that thread, and the relevant Index.

Good luck.


In my own defense I DO read a lot but I'm the type of person who needs it to be SHOWN to me instead of me reading it. Instead of me opening up another tab to go to google I didn't think it would be that big of deal since I was already on AW to ask. Not only that I have looked at a novel I have but some end with commas some end with periods and I wanted further explanation.

Bufty : No my novel isn't completed, yes I need betas to read. But isn't that the whole point in having a beta? To help you move along and show you how to write better?

I rather be the idiot asking a stupid question and getting an answer then be the idiot standing in the corner not knowing the answer.
 
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I've also seen differences between books printed in the UK and ones printed in the US. Thought that was interesting.

It's them US people, they're all weird...All 'don't space your em dashes', AND use 'a period' (which over here in proper grammar country (England) means using a woman's menstrating cycle btw). Weird, weird, weird, and just down right bloomin' messy. :D

Hi, another, look up dialogue tag, hun. It does exactly what it sez on the tin: it gets 'tagged' onto the dialogue because it's part of the same clause.
 

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I don't think I was rude. I contributed with a legitimate suggestion to look into a published book to get the basics and then ask further if still confused. My 2nd post wasn't, in particular, addressed to this poster. It was just an observation/lamentation that a lot of people circumvent traditional research for the quick fix. I didn't mean just newbies, either.
 

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Where exactly in my post (below) was I rude? Where did I ridicule the OP? If you reread my post, you might notice that I commented on the importance of a writer learning how to research and pointing the OP to a few worthwhile tools that all writers should have handy. You know, teaching someone how to fish.

That was more of a general "you." If the OP feels more comfortable coming here to ask questions then there's nothing wrong with it. Let him "learn to fish" when he's ready. There are a lot of worthwhile tools on this board, including the knowledge of others from whom s/he can learn. And, there are many such questions in this sub-forum, are you going to teach them all to fish?
 

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That was more of a general "you." If the OP feels more comfortable coming here to ask questions then there's nothing wrong with it. Let him "learn to fish" when he's ready. There are a lot of worthwhile tools on this board, including the knowledge of others from whom s/he can learn. And, there are many such questions in this sub-forum, are you going to teach them all to fish?

If you meant a 'general "you"', you could've refrained from quoting my post.

And, sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with suggesting to a new writer that they acquire some of the basic writing tools that will serve them well on their journey.

If you think that's wrong, we shall simply have to agree to disagree.
 

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If you meant a 'general "you"', you could've refrained from quoting my post.

And, sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with suggesting to a new writer that they acquire some of the basic writing tools that will serve them well on their journey.

If you think that's wrong, we shall simply have to agree to disagree.

Ah, we get into minute technical details about why you quoted me (if you feel my post wasn't directed toward you, then you don't have to quote it, either), and why I felt the need to respond with more detail. It's neither here nor there, and is a petty argument.

I think we do have to agree to disagree, and I hope the OP continues to ask questions, like everyone else in this section, when she (he?) needs answers; absolute write is a great tool for writers to use.
 

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In my own defense I DO read a lot but I'm the type of person who needs it to be SHOWN to me instead of me reading it. Instead of me opening up another tab to go to google I didn't think it would be that big of deal since I was already on AW to ask. Not only that I have looked at a novel I have but some end with commas some end with periods and I wanted further explanation.

Bufty : No my novel isn't completed, yes I need betas to read. But isn't that the whole point in having a beta? To help you move along and show you how to write better?

I rather be the idiot asking a stupid question and getting an answer then be the idiot standing in the corner not knowing the answer.


Well, when you open a published novel, you are being shown. You get to see the right format for yourself.

Yes, some end with a comma, some with a period, but none are formatted the way you did it in your first post.

I'm not saying you shouldn't ask. You should. But you still need to check published novels first, and you should always check a style or grammar book. If you don't understand why the published novel uses a comma or a period, and if you then look it up in a style or grammar book and still don't understand, asking might get you the right answer and the understanding.

Or it might just confuse you.

As for betas, well, they can be good things, but if you rely on a beta to help you write better, you'll never write very well.
 

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Well, when you open a published novel, you are being shown. You get to see the right format for yourself.

Yes, some end with a comma, some with a period, but none are formatted the way you did it in your first post.

I'm not saying you shouldn't ask. You should. But you still need to check published novels first, and you should always check a style or grammar book. If you don't understand why the published novel uses a comma or a period, and if you then look it up in a style or grammar book and still don't understand, asking might get you the right answer and the understanding.

Or it might just confuse you.
^^^^^^^^^^This.