Learn Writing with Uncle Jim, Volume 2

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Okay! How many people took the Christmas Challenge?

Here's part two:

Use the first sentence and the last sentence of your story as the first two sentences of a new story. 5,000 words. By Thursday.

And I want a happy ending, because it a holiday week!
 

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The Challenge made it as far as a ten month old baby and a eight month old baby in the spotlight would allow. They won. I should have gone over to the fountain and presented my work to it. Never compete against babies and cute animals.
 

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Okay! How many people took the Christmas Challenge?

Here's part two:

Use the first sentence and the last sentence of your story as the first two sentences of a new story. 5,000 words. By Thursday.

And I want a happy ending, because it a holiday week!

Can we revise either of these sentences in the new story? Or is the weirdness a sign I did something screwy in either the opening or closing?
 

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You can revise anything you want!

That's what revision is all about. Looking at it again. (And that's what this exercise is all about: Re-envisioning.)

Meanwhile: Even though it's from a parody site, surprisingly serious and useful advice on How To Be Funny And Not Stupid.
 
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I am. I've written straight through Christmas and New Years. This is my year

Happy New Year Uncle Jim
 

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It's a new year....

Put a big full-year-at-a-glance calendar on your wall where you can see it from your writing desk.

Every day when you've written one page (just one!) of original prose fiction, before you go to bed take a red marker pen and put a big red X through that day.
 

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Okay! How many people took the Christmas Challenge?

I took the Christmas Challenge, but was a bit tardy in completing it. I watched my movie back on December 19th, but didn't finish my story until yesterday. I had a great time writing it, though I didn't think much of the movie I watched.
 

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It isn't required to think much of the movie. All that's required is to answer it.

All art is in dialog with other art.

And it's all a starting point. You find within yourself a story to tell.

Adding constraints makes composition easier. If you have a blank white page, it's easy to get paralysed. If you have a page with a large red spot on it, and your instruction is to avoid the red spot, it's easier to get moving. You have a direction.
 

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Happy New Year, Uncle Jim and everyone!


Uncle Jim, I have a question. Do you have any advice for someone who dreads rewrites/revisions?

I normally do revisions before I send the MS out to proof readers, but I can't seem to go through the feedbacks nor get back to rewriting the story.

This is the second story where I have done a few drafts, sent it out to the few willing readers...and the writing process stopped there…with the story being ignored (from me). I do think about it, since I think it has a potential…but as you said, thinking is not writing.

For someone who found out late that writing is rewrite, any suggestion would be appreciated.

Regards,

JK
 

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I normally do revisions before I send the MS out to proof readers, but I can't seem to go through the feedbacks nor get back to rewriting the story.

But you do revisions before you send them out to your readers?

What will you do if an editor asks you to revise a work?

Make some coffee. Sit down. Do it. One sentence at a time, one page at a time.

Did someone tell you that this job was easy and everything about it pleasant?

Or, you could be the sort of writer who just doesn't do beta-reader revisions.
 

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Lots of praise for you and this thread. With the discombobulation of a normally staid lifestyle by the holidays over now I am getting a lot of good BIC time.

Do you travel for researching your work? The Land of Mist and Snow is one that you worked on while handling the active years of this thread. Although you use the library resources I do not remember you stating anything about visiting locations.
 

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Visiting locations?

1) I have sailed the north and south Atlantic oceans. A lot.

2) I have visited Portsmouth, and London, England.

3) I spent a great deal of time at Mystic Seaport, Mystic, CT, and know my way around a 19th century ship.

4) A close personal friend was assigned to Thule Air Force base.

5) I was assigned to, and traveled extensively in, Central America.

6) I spent a year at the Brooklyn Navy Yards.

7) My induction physical was at the old War Department building on Whitehall Street in NYC. (Yeah, I know it wasn't there during the Civil War. But there weren't magically-powered warships during the Civil War either.) I needed something that overlooked New York Harbor, and that was handy.

8) I have a pretty good memory, I use the library a lot, and (the secret weapon of the novelist) I make stuff up.

The origin of Land of Mist and Snow: A dream involving a race between a 19th c. ship and a locomotive. Plus the question, What if the Union had had a Pegasus-class patrol hydrofoil during the Civil War?

The rest is basic science-fiction/fantasy what-if extrapolation in the Secret History sub-genre. (Other clues: There was no USS Tisdale until WWII.)
 

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But you do revisions before you send them out to your readers?

What will you do if an editor asks you to revise a work?

Make some coffee. Sit down. Do it. One sentence at a time, one page at a time.

Did someone tell you that this job was easy and everything about it pleasant?

Or, you could be the sort of writer who just doesn't do beta-reader revisions.

No, no one told me that it's easy, nor would I try this hard if it was. (not worth the challenge, I guess?)

It's just that I feel like instead of focusing on a novel-length story and completing it, I find a way to type up short stories...

And this revision stage is such a sweet spot to stop too.

Uncle Jim, so do you usually revise chapter by chapter, or do you tackle the whole story ideas first? I know you covered revision before, but could you teach us your revision methods again?
 

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Hiya I stayed up allll night reading through as much of these "learning writing" threads as possible, and taking notes on it. One thing I was hoping to find (but haven't found yet, but probably exists) is a post specifically on foreshadowing. I'm into my second draft and you mentioned once that that is where you put foreshadowing in. What techniques do you use to do it? I find it really challenging. Do you have a post on it already, if so, where? Sorry there is a lot to go through. I'm trying but it is a challenge to read all this and still make time for writing!

Oh and THANK YOUUUU. These threads are amazing sauce.
 

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Uncle Jim, so do you usually revise chapter by chapter, or do you tackle the whole story ideas first? I know you covered revision before, but could you teach us your revision methods again?

I generally read the entire book, cover to cover, making changes as I go (in pencil), or at the very least putting a check mark in the margin meaning "Fix something here."

Then I read it cover to cover again.

I will add scenes, then read the whole thing again.

The book is a whole; it is organic. And I hold the entire thing in my head all at once.
 

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I talked a bit about foreshadowing starting here: http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6710&page=272

But while Googling in an attempt to find that, look what else I came upon:

http://holmes.spontaneousderivation.com/2008/01/14/writing-holmes-retyping-speckled-band/


I am flattered, and it's good commentary.

I thought it was very good commentary as well. I've read about this exercise, have never done it but now I am inspired to do so. Now, which first chapter to choose...
 

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The Penmonkey's Paean.


... Every word journey is a Journey West. I am Lewis, and I am Clark. I am not the Donner Party ...

LOL. That's exactly sums up how I've been feeling lately -- I'm the Donner Party and having just their level of success with my latest WIP.

Starting today I'm Lewis and Clark. :snoopy:

Thanks for the link, Uncle Jim.
 

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