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Estephan Talent Agency (Joseph Estephan)

day13

Positive experience with Mr. Estephan

Earnestly, I must admit I was a bit alarmed when I saw this profile. After sending out multitudes of query letters, Mr. Estephan was the only agent who showed any interest in myself and my work. After talking, I was given the proposal of submitting my screenplays for a fee of $100 each. I submitted $600 (six screenplays). I decided to do some research before committing to a contract (I hadn’t signed one yet), and soon discovered this site. Concerned and in search of the truth, I mailed print outs of the feedback from this forum to Mr. Estephan, who patiently explained and answered all of my questions. Mr. Estephan was soon going to attend the American Film Market (AFM) festival in LA, in hopes of promoting myself and my work.

As luck would have it, two other agencies in California contacted me, with slightly better offers and opportunities. Wanting my career to take the most optimal path possible, I decided to sign on with another agency (which was NOT an easy decision to make). I was given periodic updates by way of phone and emails, had all of my questions answered, was given a partial refund of my money, and severed ties in an equitable, polite and professional manner. I was also promised to have all material that I had submitted disposed of (I threatened with extensive legal action). If you are in search of representation that will provide an advantage in the ever-competitive film-making industry, Mr. Estephan and the Estephan agency would be a good place to start.
 

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I'd be awful polite and respectful to someone who just wrote me a $600 check, taking time for long explantations about questionable practices and bad reputation.

A "positive" experience doesn't mean he wasn't scamming you. Take comfort in the partial refund of something that shouldn't have been charged in the first place.
 

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Truly, any of us can understand a person who'd handed over $600 wanting to put a good spin on the deal, but I'm afraid Day13 will never see any of the six screenplays sold or even come close, not because of their quality (which I can't know, of course) but because Mr. Estephan's reputation surely preceeds him in the business. Even before you terminated your arrangement with the man, he has lost whatever 'cred' he had in the business. It's highly unlikely anyone able to produce a movie would consider a meeting with someone who appears to make his living in recent years on the hundred-dollar hopes of the inexperienced.

I'm glad you felt you had a professional relationship with the guy, but since you received only a partial refund and a bit of the man's time, you're still out a substantial amount of money for no services rendered.

Ow, huh? I know. Anyway, welcome to the boards, where we are always available to help you sidestep the next costly lesson. I urge you to check out the reputation of agents and agencies before initiating contact or allowing them to initiate it.

Maryn, sorry to hear a fellow writer got ripped off
 
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day13

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I got this message from Mr. Estephan. He told me he is now offering his services free of charge --

"I will look at projects from writers(especially those who are
not so happy about my services to them at this point) at no charge and have 1 or 2 movie projects in the works right now. Certain acting talent interested in a project will generate a commitment from a distributor and hence financing to make a movie. Any person who is dissatisfied with my services to this point can simply submit a list of script synopsis/loglines(1-2 sentences) to me thru email and let me see what the acting talent wants to do(they have all kinds of certain ideas/preferences). Then simply be ready to provide some sort of justificationthrough a qualified script reviewer as to the professional quality of a script requested as it is too expensive for me to do "script doctoring" for individual projects and I have more to lose by submitting a bad script(developing the contact network is the culmination of over 20 years in the biz), as the script may not be totally right for the talent, but if it is unprofessional, I can burn a bridge. I do have legitimate access to the talent through contcts. I do not however have the time and energy to spend more than a few minutes simply forwarding the email. The writer must do the mailing/follow up. The writer must also be very patient as many times I work through normal vacation time to do the work instead of taking normal time off and work efficiently while others would normally just be watching TV or football.

Thanks,

Joe "
 

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Then simply be ready to provide some sort of justificationthrough a qualified script reviewer as to the professional quality of a script requested as it is too expensive for me to do "script doctoring" for individual projects and I have more to lose by submitting a bad script(developing the contact network is the culmination of over 20 years in the biz), as the script may not be totally right for the talent, but if it is unprofessional, I can burn a bridge
Let me guess .. he'll provide the details of an unaffiliated reviewer to review the script?

If he has 'more to lose by submitting a bad script', then perhaps he should have READ the scripts he was enthusiastic about in the past.

eg:
http://messageboard.donedealpro.com/boards/showthread.php?t=11930

To quote:
Yup, he tried to scam me a few years ago too. Went on and on about how much loved my script until I finally asked him if he'd read it and he replied, "well...no, not yet"...but...and then the "send x amount of money for this and that"...

He also used to trade as 'William Morris Casting' (eg: http://www.photolinks.com/Advertising_Photography.html?page=19 ) .. which despite having an identical name to a famous talent agency, seems to have NO connection to the famous talent agency.

Why would anyone bother with him?

Mac
 
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mikerofone

Infamous Mr. Estephan

Any recent (past year) reports about or experiences with Joseph Estephan and his Estephan Talent Agency? He has contacted me recently and after doing my research on him I am inclined to not even respond. Just wondering if there is any evidence he has turned over a new leaf or has become legit.
 

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Any recent (past year) reports about or experiences with Joseph Estephan and his Estephan Talent Agency? He has contacted me recently and after doing my research on him I am inclined to not even respond. Just wondering if there is any evidence he has turned over a new leaf or has become legit.
Personally, mikerofone, I think the guy's placed himself off-limits for any writer with common sense. If he's been perfectly willing to rip writers off in the past, could you trust him? I couldn't.

Maryn, who looks gift horses in the mouth (it's dark in there!)
 

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I'm not finding any activity after 2007. Anyone else?
 

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I just got an email from him. He asked to see a copy of my novel. I think he got my email address by doing a google search for my book. However, I'm currently not seeking representation, so I politely declined.
 

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This just in:
Hello,

Our client Joseph Estephan has been trying to contact you regarding a posting on your website: http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=966 When searching in the search engines for [Joe Estephan] or [Joseph Estaphan]

Mr. Estephan claims that this article projects him in a negative light and makes false claims about him and his service. It is impeding his ability to do business.

Respectfully we ask that you remove this page immediately. If there is a fee for doing so, Mr. Estaphan will pay in advance for doing so. If you do not remove this page, we pursue all legal avenues available in having it removed and sue you for the liabilities of business he has lost and continues to lose as a result of that posting.


Thank You,

Jeremiah Plummer
Pavenet Internet Services

Since when does your ISP send legal threats?
 

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I suspect that "Jeremiah Plummer" is an alias used by Joseph Estephan. Because I'm fairly sure that ISPs don't involve themselves in the shenanigans of their clients, unless the client is perpetrating an obvious crime. But certainly said ISP wouldn't make such a request of a blog entry created by many non-customers, who wouldn't benefit financially from posting their experiences. I think Estephan is running out of suckers to bilk.
 

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From a Google search, Jeremiah Plummer does seem to be the president of Pavenet, which seems to have existed for a while.

:e2shrug:

You got me. That's an odd thread. Why would an ISP bother to sue someone on behalf of a client?
 

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From a Google search, Jeremiah Plummer does seem to be the president of Pavenet, which seems to have existed for a while.

:e2shrug:

You got me. That's an odd thread. Why would an ISP bother to sue someone on behalf of a client?

Yep; he's on the WhoIS records for Pavenet, and responds to all the Contact requests.

I note that that email came in via the WhoIs record for AW; he never even checked the site.