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OK I tried interpreting an AWers Japanese signature (mix of hiragana and kenji, naturally) into a readable (for me) phonetics, and then checked my work on http://nihongo.j-talk.com/kanji/
How is it possible to get every single one of the characters wrong? How?! (OK the kenji characters were all wrong...I got about half of the hiragana characters right. :() Not the brightest bulb in the socket.
 

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I'm not quite sure I understand. Can you PM it to me?
 

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I'll give it a look, too, if you'd like.

Not promising, my Japanese isn't native level, but I have a room full of Japanese people here I can ask if needs be.
 

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What part of Japan do you live in, Debio?

Yeah, I've discovered that a lot of what didn't make sense to me when I first started learning was usually very slang-tastic. I'm guessing that it's something similar. Then again, it could just be someone writing something and having no idea what they're saying. ;)
 

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I'm in Toyama.

I've noticed the same thing. Some of the slang stuff really throws me. I'm glad I have a school full of teenagers to ask. Then there is the not-as-good-at-Japanese-as-I-thought-Japanese phrasing. (I am victim of this myself alot )
 

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It took me forever to get good at the casual stuff. Now I can do it as well as any random 15-year-old boy. ;) The funny thing is a lot of it is hard to explain in English. I might understand it perfectly, but trying to tell someone what it means? Not nearly as easy lol.

I'm also jealous. I miss Japan. Go eat some really great ramen for me, k?
 

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To learn Japanese? I've never used a program so I can't say, but I have heard good things about Rosetta. Those are several hundred dollars, though.

If you're interested in self-study, I'd recommend buying a textbook (there are a few I could recommend depending on your area of interest) that has a workbook and also a CD to do listening exercises. That won't do you much good in terms of getting speaking practice, and that's really something you'd need one-on-one work to get good at, but it would give you a good idea of basic grammar and vocabulary.

Are you near a university? Something you could consider as well is looking for a language partner, and it might be that you can find a Japanese student who could either do conversation practice with you for a fee or who might be willing to exchange language practice.

There are also tutoring services out there that can arrange services. I'm doing some work with one right now, though I can't say what I think of it quite yet. However hopefully the student I'm working with feels it's worth her while.

Options kind of depend on what your price range is, what your goals are, and how dedicated you are because learning a language, particularly something as different as Japanese, takes an awful lot of self-discipline.
 

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I have never used a program either, so wouldn't even want to speculate. Like Katie I have heard of Rosetta. It's been around for a while at least, so it has that going for it.

I too would also recommend your local college/university. I'd suggest going to their international office. The office that works with their international students. Explain what you want and they may be able to put you in touch with a student who would be interested.

Just try not to look like a psycho flake who is into manga and girls. They'll shut you down quick if you do. I'm not assuming you fall into either of those categories though.
 

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Just try not to look like a psycho flake who is into manga and girls. They'll shut you down quick if you do. I'm not assuming you fall into either of those categories though.

Seconded.
 

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私は折節に4年も日本語を勉強しているんですが、能力が下手からなかなか進まないのですよ。残念ね。
もともと、日本人の彼氏があったので日本語を勉強したいと思っていたのです。
 
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じゃ,頑張ってください。僕はもうすぐ15年間に日本にいることになるます。日本語はまだまだ足りないところがありますけど。日常会話がだいたい大丈夫です。日本語は簡単なところも難しいところもありますがいっぱい練習すればいいんじゃないかなと思います。
 

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日本語が難しいですよ。 外国語を学ぶことも大変です。 実は、みなさんが ときどき停滞期に入ります。それが普通のことですよ。

私は、新しい方法で勉強しました。たとえば、最初に授業で勉強しました。それからまんがを日本語で読みました。大変難しかったんですが、よく覚えました。そして、まんがができそうになったので、諸説を読み始めました。 

なんかチャレンジをやったほうがいいと思います。 もちろん頑張ってくださいね。少しずつで上手になりますよ。
 

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皆は うまい日本語書きますので、ちょっと うるやましい!

まあ。。。勉強は,とても いい 経験 ですが しかし 一番大切のことは、'communication' です。毎日、毎日、友達に 話ので すぐに じょたつします。頑張ってください!
 

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JSFのいったどおりですね。 私には話すことが一番難しいです。 日本で、武術をやりました。練習の日に、私しか英語を話せないので、日本語で話しました。それで急にそごく上手になりました。

友達と練習できるほうがいいんだけど、だれもが日本人の友達がいるわけではありません。 ここで書くことがいい練習だけどね。

じゃ、ねむいぞ。
 

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私もう、ねむいです。前日 前日と前夜もう、諸説を読むし 書いてるし。。。しんどいだ。 しかし、まだまだ頑張っているよ。今、私は 大阪の法すんでいます。 あなたは。。。?
 

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I want to recommend this page to anyone looking for online resources to help in their study of Japanese. http://nihongo-e-na.com/eng/

私は来月から一年間仙台の大学で勉強する予定です。それは楽しみにしていますが、まだちょっと怖いです。D:
JSFさんは大阪にいるんですね。うらやましいわ。私は去年六週間を大阪で過ごしました。楽しかったですよ。
 

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皆が言う通り

皆が言う事は正しい; 毎日の練習は不可欠です。

今には、私と一緒に練習する人もないし、滅多に映画を見たり、音楽を聞いたり、本を読んだりなんかしない。 過去には、しばしばあのようなことをしました。

それにしても、自分の能力に自信がない。練習する機会がある場合であっても、進歩に非常に遅くなってしまったの。それにもかかわらず、是非頑張るよ !
 

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大丈夫。僕は言いたいことはなかっただけです。詩のところをよく見っていました。この日本語のスレッドを毎日見っているから何かあったら呼んでください。
 

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やばいんじゃいないの? 女性じゃないの? ハハハ ^^ 非常に強い女!!!

女性なんですけど、じつは男性の高校生といつも会話しましたから、私の話し方がちょっと男性っぽくなった。:tongue
 

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私はこのトピックを殺したように思える。すみません!楽しいウェブサイトへのリンクを受け入れてください。https://www.erin.ne.jp/en/

ぜんぜん。 忙しくなった、からここに来なかった。君のせいじゃないよ。:)