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Alleged Plagiarism Spanning Two Decades
I've been following this one for several days on Twitter and Facebook, and it's now made the national press:
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The cake is a lie. But still cake.
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Not another one.
And she should really have known better - she's a frigging creative writing tutor! I know from my own experiences with the OU that they have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to things like plagiarism, so it's sad that one of their staff has been caught out. That said, not sure how much the university can do about it unless she was using the writing as part of her work for the university. |
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Writer is as Writer does
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Also, whether the plagiarised work was presented to the university or not, it was still a major factor in her qualifications for the job. I think it's absolutely relevant to her current position as a creative writing instructor.
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practical experience, FTW
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I was just on the OUSA A215 creative Writing board as that's my next course. Wow. OU don't take lightly to these things, the will come down on her like a ton of bricks.
She's been active in promoting her own books to her students as someone said in the comments: Quote:
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Since I've never heard of her, not only is she an evil criminal, she's an inept one. Steal something better next time, you dumb bimbo.
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Geekzilla
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Better than Dylan Thomas?
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Madeleines! Don't get me started.
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You think? Blimey. I kind of assumed that if an academic were exposed as a plagiarist they'd be drummed out of the faculty, the leather patches snipped off their tweed coat by a senior lecturer with a flinty expression. You can't get sacked for being a thief?
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practical experience, FTW
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OU will take this very seriously. Don't worry about that. |
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The cake is a lie. But still cake.
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Personally I think it should be looked at very seriously, and the right punishment delivered. Plagiarism is never okay. |
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practical experience, FTW
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There's also an investigation going on as to whether her PHD is legitimate as she earned it before they bought in the plagiarism scanners. |
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Toughen up.
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Ever since, I've been paranoid when referencing.
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I'm still looking at it and thinking ... Dylan Thomas? And no one noticed?
On the other hand, I can remember being disgusted at about the age of twelve or thirteen to recognize a prize-winning Scholastic play as copied directly from the Christmas play in some ladies' magazine the previous year, only the characters' names had been changed from Mickey and Goofy and Hesperornis to something else and Hesperornis (yes, they copied from Disney). I didn't know there was anything I could do about it, but I remember it seemed awfully unfair. |
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volitare nequeo
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She's not tenured, they can fire her ass.
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The cake is a lie. But still cake.
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Tell it like it Is
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Why? I just don't understand why someone plagiarizes others work. Why not just write your own stories?
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Let's see what's on special today..
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Especially someone like her who must have known she stood to lose more than she could possibly gain from the exercise.
Is it the belief that everybody gets caught but you?
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Writer is as Writer does
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Consider, too, how long it took her to get caught. I daresay the rise of the internet is going to turn up quite a few more of these situations, where people started plagiarising when the 'net was little more than a gleam in its inventors' eyes.
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practical experience, FTW
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[DERAIL]
The internet has been around for decades. The creation of the world wide web is the big change in using the internet. [/DERAIL]
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grump
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In the US, what has happened to others is that the plagiarist triggers curious people who drag out the master's thesis and everything still in some professor's drawer back to undergrad days. It all gets scrutinized in great detail and degrees start getting stripped. There was some famous Endowed Chair fellow who this happened to, he lost the chair, lost his job, got his PhD stripped, then his MA. Probably his high school teachers were wondering, as well.
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You'll have to run faster than that
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According to the Facebook page set up about this, her PhD thesis has been checked by an appropriate academic and one chapter was (I think) more than 50% plagiarised. At that point they stopped checking.
If the allegations are true it's awful to think that this has gone on so long. What was she thinking? Will Amazon demand back the monies paid for her plagiarised works so they can pass them onto the rightful authors? And what is she going to do now?
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Tell it like it Is
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I want to say plagiarism stems from a lack of self-confidence to be able to produce you own stories, but I think it goes way deeper than that. However, I wonder if it actually stems from narcissism. After all, people who plagiarize think they can get away with it, otherwise they would not do it. Or, maybe they are just trying to get caught.
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I'm glad to see more and more plagiarists being outed these days. It's about time they face some consequences for their theft. |
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我的身分還是秘密.
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"I didn't plagiarize the stories! I ran them through an article spinner first...!"
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It's like some would-be reality stars. They want to be rich and famous without having any attribute or accomplishment to warrant such reward and adulation.
They want the prize without having to run the race. It's a dream of laziness, greed, and entitlement, and I suspect Susan Littlefield's absolutely correct that it stems from personal narcissism. These people honestly don't understand why they aren't revered and thus slap together some half-assed facade to gain the attention they believe they deserve. |
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