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Old 07-09-2012, 04:16 PM   #1
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Council tenants have begun a High Court bid to block proposals to place surface-to-air missiles on the roof of their tower block during the Olympics.
Can't say I blame them. The idea's just bonkers.
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Old 07-09-2012, 04:19 PM   #2
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What we need is for a young hacker to hack into their missile software and leave a message on their screens reading "This is a bad idea for very obvious reasons" or something like that.

Disclaimer: I am being facetious, not actually encouraging anyone to break the law. Just sayin'.
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I think that's basically what Gary McKinnon did.
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I think that's basically what Gary McKinnon did.
And everything worked out for him.

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What worries me is where any shot-down aircraft is going to land. That's a heavily populated area.
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What worries me is where any shot-down aircraft is going to land. That's a heavily populated area.
This.

I don't need airplanes or missiles falling on my head, kthxbie. I really doubt terrorists are gonna fly planes into buildings. Too much trouble and years of planning. Especially if they wanted to attack an olympic location. They'd have had to start planning before the olympics were actually planned for...

Why do that when you can cause so much more terror with many smaller scale attacks, unpredictable and scattered around. No one knows where it's safe, when it's safe... Also, I write post-apocalyptic stuff, I know what happens when the government puts guns every where *shady*
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What worries me is where any shot-down aircraft is going to land.
Oh, that's easy. They'll aim to down the missiles in low income neighbourhoods like Hackney or Romford. We'll count it as a victory if they avoid peppering Jacques Rogge's entourage with debris.
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What worries me is where any shot-down aircraft is going to land. That's a heavily populated area.
Do aircraft that are hit by missiles land or break up and bits of them fall to earth? (just asking) If they were able to land then I would guess it would be either in the Regents Canal, Hackney Marsh, Victoria Park or the Blackwall Tunnel Approach Road. I used to live in Hackney - in fact I was born there. Has a lot to answer for does Hackney.

I find the whole thing amusing - did the military really think that no one would notice? And if they did notice that they would not be bothered?
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So much for the "olympic spirit."

So much for "the honor" of hosting the Olympics in your nation/city.
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This is only the beginning of the madness... And we know how well the authorities are coping with the stress of ensuring public obedience safety in the run-up to the games - can you imagine what it is going to be like when there are (vaguely) important people milling around...

Time for Londoners to start thinking where they want to spend the summer. The south of France sounds good.
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It's the sort of thing you'd have seen in a dystopian eighties film set in the late nineties. Outlandish but a commentary on things to come back then; a depressing reality now.
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If that happened, queues at the tunnel could be as much as six hours. That's an increase of 20% at Rush Hour.

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Seems potentially bad for the building's structural integrity, you know?
They found a sturdy Victorian apartment block to house it - and there weren't many suitable in the area - so while the military logic is suspect, the architectural planning is impeccable.
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Considering the fact that great swathes of London is going to be shut down to traffic (and buses cancelled for an as-yet undetermined amount of time) you may want to consider how long the rush hour is going to last in the first place...
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Considering the fact that great swathes of London is going to be shut down to traffic (and buses cancelled for an as-yet undetermined amount of time) you may want to consider how long the rush hour is going to last in the first place...
If I were a Londoner, I'd get out of the city for the duration. I don't go there often, but it's pretty obvious the tube system is badly overloaded. Still, at least Londoners have voted in a mayor with vast organisational and technological skills.
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The residents have lost. Big shock.

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The residents have lost. Big shock.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18778723
Yeah, apparently the MOD had behaved 'immaculately' and didn't even have to mention the missiles.

Today we learn that, having had *seven years* to prepare, the private security company G4S can't supply the security staff and we are going to have to draft in troop. (G4S is the company tapped to run a lot of private policing when the Tories outsource that.) So missiles on your roof, the army in your streets. God I wish we had a Bill of Rights that specifically prevented that, like our American cousins.

I spent the best part of two hours getting to work today because London transport is already utterly fucked by the last-minute scramble to get ready for these Games, which few Londoners wanted. They're going to cost, what, £12bn? How much were those public sector spending cuts again?

Fuck. The. Olympics. Fuck them to Hell.
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I spent the best part of two hours getting to work today because London transport is already utterly fucked by the last-minute scramble to get ready for these Games, which few Londoners wanted. They're going to cost, what, £12bn? How much were those public sector spending cuts again?
I saw a great letter in the Guardian from a Londoner complaining about the torch relay and how people were calling it Britain's games when the games were awarded to London. Fine, I thought, we'll forgo the torch relay (which in my case involved getting up at half five in the morning to see a Davy Lamp being waved around a High School football pitch) and let's have Londoners spunk up the entire £12 billion through their Council Tax.

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I've just about come to that conclusion myself.
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Lot's of reasons why this is a bad idea.

If I were in charge I'd have made the same announcements and put up some dummy installation as a minor deterrent. Not sure how it is in England but if the Olympics were here, an attempt to interdict them was not made, and there WAS an attack, the lawyers would be having a hayday after the fact.

There is a terrorist threat (knowledge of that alreay creates a partial victory for the bad guys) and there may be some action but I sort of doubt there will be a well coordinated effort. Can't blame the country from trying to prevent it but it would probably be a big waste of money to carry out this plan (but then isn't that what governments do?)
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Really? You need rooftop missiles to host the Olympics now?

I don't think I'd attend an event that caused the whole city to be turned into a police state, even if it's only for a couple of weeks...
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Remember the news about the cost of the opening ceremony a while back? They were discussing it on the radio - one person against it on the grounds of cost, another for it because things globally and nationally are pretty pants, so we need a pick me up. They mentioned the Chinese ceremony and repeatedly said that it 'brought people together'. In all seriousness, I struggled to see the logic of this in a practical sense. How did it bring people together for longer than the length of the ceremony? Yeah, it made people feel good, but are we talking any long term benefits for such a massive amount of money? It's the same now. We're spending money we don't have.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:45 PM   #24
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Remember the news about the cost of the opening ceremony a while back? They were discussing it on the radio - one person against it on the grounds of cost, another for it because things globally and nationally are pretty pants, so we need a pick me up. They mentioned the Chinese ceremony and repeatedly said that it 'brought people together'. In all seriousness, I struggled to see the logic of this in a practical sense. How did it bring people together for longer than the length of the ceremony? Yeah, it made people feel good, but are we talking any long term benefits for such a massive amount of money? It's the same now. We're spending money we don't have.
That's why they have to lie about the 'legacy' benefits. Because if you just sent every taxpayer a rebate for their share of the billions, that'd be a much easier way of making people feel good.
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Remember the news about the cost of the opening ceremony a while back? They were discussing it on the radio - one person against it on the grounds of cost, another for it because things globally and nationally are pretty pants, so we need a pick me up. They mentioned the Chinese ceremony and repeatedly said that it 'brought people together'. In all seriousness, I struggled to see the logic of this in a practical sense. How did it bring people together for longer than the length of the ceremony? Yeah, it made people feel good, but are we talking any long term benefits for such a massive amount of money? It's the same now. We're spending money we don't have.
I remember Frankie Boyle saying for that cost we just inscribe FUCK OFF GERMANY in mile-wide letters on the moon.
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