Jewish ways to repel a vampire - Page 2

DahlELama · 09-23-2011, 08:10 PM

Ha, I love this idea--there seem to be so many areas where vampire lore and Jewish law overlap, from sundown being a crucial time to the necessity but non-kosher status of blood to Jews specifically posting religious artifacts on doorposts while vampires have to be invited to enter homes. I also can't help but imagine interactions between vampires and Kohanim (priests descended from Aaron), who aren't allowed to be in the vicinity of the dead.

poeticjustice_2001 · 01-26-2012, 05:32 AM

There are several writers out there that make vampires repelled by any religious symbol.. or in the case of Patricia Briggs, any symbol the person has faith in, even non-religious (her main character repels a vampire with her pendant of a lamb, because it has spiritual significance to her).
I think it's a cool idea overall, but if the vampire isn't Jewish but is repelled by Jewish symbols, maybe you should look up some basic Jewish mysticism info? Just to help with the logic in the plot.

Good luck!

J.S.F. · 01-26-2012, 03:18 PM

The Star of David is the only thing I've ever heard of which can repel vampires of the Jewish persuasion or even of the Christian one. The first time I ever read about it was in one of Jack Chalker's books, 'And the devil will drag you under' which was written around twenty or so years ago. A really good read and one of the characters suggests repelling vampires using a cross if you're Christian or a Star of David if you're Jewish. You might also try using the symbol of "Chai" ("life") which would be the antithesis of a vampire's. JMO....

Shakesbear · 01-26-2012, 04:37 PM

I find that very interesting - surely the vampires religion when s/he was a human would determine what religious artefact would be most suitable. What would be the point of waving a cross at a vampire that had been a Jewish human? Or a Magen David at a vampire that had been Christian?

horrorshowjack · 02-07-2012, 12:27 PM

I am Legend (book not movie) had it work based on the vampire's mortal beliefs. A Jewish vamp freaked out about the Tablets of Moses, but didn't care about the cross.

Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires stated that statues of Buddha would work against vamps, but I don't remember if that was just Chinese ones or not. Chinese western vampires that is, not hopping vampires.

blacbird · 02-08-2012, 11:40 AM

Gefiltegarlic.

caw

GeorgeK · 02-08-2012, 07:05 PM

A can of wd40 with the fine spray tip and a lighter...Holy Symbol That You Undead Mother Sucker! (Btw...do not test that within a quarter mile of paper, plastic, wood, vehicles, asphalt or any living thing including low flying flocks of geese. It is also definitely not the recommended way to get rid of a wasp nest in the eaves of your garage, whether or not it has aluminum siding)

I can't do You Tubes, but am told that there are some spectacular ones to watch

jr7110 · 02-08-2012, 11:29 PM

There is a Silent film from 1920 called "The Dybbuk" and it is more like "The Exorcist" than a vampire film but a Dybbuk is an evil spirit in Jewish lore that possesses a human. It is not a "vampire" tale, but since Jewish symbolism is used to exorcise the spirit it could prove helpful in giving you some ideas for your story. Here is a wikipedia link and this film is actually available on Netflix if you want to rent it as research:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dybbuk

blacbird · 02-09-2012, 08:52 AM

It isn't exactly a vampire story, but I'd recommend everyone read The Golem, by Gustav Meyrich, for a good look at the totemic supernatural in Jewish life in a European Ghetto a century ago.

caw

richcapo · 02-11-2012, 03:12 AM

Just have the Jew beat the hell out of the vampire by whatever means. I'm sick of the magic doodad solution to the vampire problem. If you need magic involved in the beatdown, have the Jew invoke the strength of Metatron or the power of the Sephiroth and then rip the vampire to pieces -- a physical and metaphysical attack -- over the course of a badass battle.

Whipping out a cross or whatever to deal with a vampire is as lame as whipping out a chunk of Kryptonite to deal with Superman in my opinion. Just not a fan of that deus ex trinketna stuff.

thothguard51 · 02-11-2012, 03:49 AM

Jewish ways to repel a vampire

Start singing the Draddle (<sp?) song or whatever it is called...

Sorry, couldn't resist...

StephanieFox · 07-27-2012, 06:59 AM

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but it would be hard to be a Jewish vampire because to keep kosher, you have to remove as much blood as possible from meat. You can't eat blood. Slaughtered animals are drained of all blood, which is allowed to go into the earth. You can't eat things made of blood, like blood sausage. So, you can't drink blood like a vampire would have to do. Plus, humans aren't kosher, either.

Of course a Jewish vampire could be secular or Reform.

BlueCloud · 08-11-2012, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Gefiltegarlic.

heehee

There is an interesting use of Jewish mysticism to vanquish vampires in the YA novel, The Devil's Kiss, by Sarwat Chadda.

http://www.amazon.com/Devils-Kiss-Sa...4706272&sr=1-2

JSSchley · 08-14-2012, 06:52 AM

I have absolutely nothing to add.

Except to say that this thread title keeps catching my eye, and man would it make a great book title.

01-26-2012, 05:32 AM	#27
poeticjustice_2001 figuring it all out Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Matagalpa, Nicaragua (until 2013) Posts: 83	What a cool idea! There are several writers out there that make vampires repelled by any religious symbol.. or in the case of Patricia Briggs, any symbol the person has faith in, even non-religious (her main character repels a vampire with her pendant of a lamb, because it has spiritual significance to her). I think it's a cool idea overall, but if the vampire isn't Jewish but is repelled by Jewish symbols, maybe you should look up some basic Jewish mysticism info? Just to help with the logic in the plot. Good luck! __________________ Just a Peace Corps volunteer in the middle of nowhere ... http://jewishgirladventures.blogspot.com When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'. - Erma Bombeck

01-26-2012, 03:18 PM	#28
J.S.F. practical experience, FTW Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Osaka Posts: 1,705	The Star of David is the only thing I've ever heard of which can repel vampires of the Jewish persuasion or even of the Christian one. The first time I ever read about it was in one of Jack Chalker's books, 'And the devil will drag you under' which was written around twenty or so years ago. A really good read and one of the characters suggests repelling vampires using a cross if you're Christian or a Star of David if you're Jewish. You might also try using the symbol of "Chai" ("life") which would be the antithesis of a vampire's. JMO.... __________________ "A choice to be made, the price to be paid." --The Tower ----- Blog over at writerwannabe.weebly.com. Mr. Taxi on submission. Twisted will be out in March, 2014, and Lindsay versus The Marauders will be out July, 2014, both courtesy of Regal Crest Publishing. Sequels to LVTM are in the editing stages. Death Bytes is here! Go to ExtasyBooks.com or DevineDestinies.com for more info.

01-26-2012, 04:37 PM	#29
Shakesbear knows a hawk from a handsaw Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Elsinore Posts: 3,210	I find that very interesting - surely the vampires religion when s/he was a human would determine what religious artefact would be most suitable. What would be the point of waving a cross at a vampire that had been a Jewish human? Or a Magen David at a vampire that had been Christian? __________________ And my large kingdom for a little grave, A little little grave, an obscure grave . . .

02-11-2012, 03:12 AM	#35
richcapo practical experience, FTW Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Posts: 704	Just have the Jew beat the hell out of the vampire by whatever means. I'm sick of the magic doodad solution to the vampire problem. If you need magic involved in the beatdown, have the Jew invoke the strength of Metatron or the power of the Sephiroth and then rip the vampire to pieces -- a physical and metaphysical attack -- over the course of a badass battle. Whipping out a cross or whatever to deal with a vampire is as lame as whipping out a chunk of Kryptonite to deal with Superman in my opinion. Just not a fan of that deus ex trinketna stuff. __________________ Richard It was that bastard man’s voice that woke my father. Papu found himself back in his cell, lying atop a lush bed crafted of various male and female organs and his enemy's passions. Strong with that bastard man’s magic, the organs restrained Papu and sensually rubbed against him. Some xxxxxxx him and some xxxxxx with his xxxxxxx. Poetry and Jest

02-11-2012, 03:49 AM	#36
thothguard51 A Gentleman of a refined age... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Out side the beltway... Posts: 8,123	Jewish ways to repel a vampire Start singing the Draddle (<sp?) song or whatever it is called... Sorry, couldn't resist... __________________ Knowledge is learned while wisdom is earned. Currently working on... From, The Tales of Netherron, Book 1, A Game of Pawns Book 2, Pawn takes Queen, Book 3, Pawn's Gambit, In the pipeline, Children of Netherron, follow up trilogy Guardians of Netherron, prequel trilogy http://nickanthony51.wordpress.com (on hiatus) Nick Anthony

09-23-2011, 08:10 PM	#26
DahlELama practical experience, FTW Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY Posts: 222	Ha, I love this idea--there seem to be so many areas where vampire lore and Jewish law overlap, from sundown being a crucial time to the necessity but non-kosher status of blood to Jews specifically posting religious artifacts on doorposts while vampires have to be invited to enter homes. I also can't help but imagine interactions between vampires and Kohanim (priests descended from Aaron), who aren't allowed to be in the vicinity of the dead.

02-07-2012, 12:27 PM	#30
horrorshowjack Professional Heretic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 108	I am Legend (book not movie) had it work based on the vampire's mortal beliefs. A Jewish vamp freaked out about the Tablets of Moses, but didn't care about the cross. Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires stated that statues of Buddha would work against vamps, but I don't remember if that was just Chinese ones or not. Chinese western vampires that is, not hopping vampires.

02-08-2012, 11:40 AM	#31
blacbird That hairy-handed gent Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Who ran amok in Kent Posts: 26,374	Gefiltegarlic. caw

02-08-2012, 07:05 PM	#32
GeorgeK ever seeking Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,286	A can of wd40 with the fine spray tip and a lighter...Holy Symbol That You Undead Mother Sucker! (Btw...do not test that within a quarter mile of paper, plastic, wood, vehicles, asphalt or any living thing including low flying flocks of geese. It is also definitely not the recommended way to get rid of a wasp nest in the eaves of your garage, whether or not it has aluminum siding) I can't do You Tubes, but am told that there are some spectacular ones to watch

02-08-2012, 11:29 PM	#33
jr7110 New Fish; Learning About Thick Skin Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 21	There is a Silent film from 1920 called "The Dybbuk" and it is more like "The Exorcist" than a vampire film but a Dybbuk is an evil spirit in Jewish lore that possesses a human. It is not a "vampire" tale, but since Jewish symbolism is used to exorcise the spirit it could prove helpful in giving you some ideas for your story. Here is a wikipedia link and this film is actually available on Netflix if you want to rent it as research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dybbuk

02-09-2012, 08:52 AM	#34
blacbird That hairy-handed gent Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Who ran amok in Kent Posts: 26,374	It isn't exactly a vampire story, but I'd recommend everyone read The Golem, by Gustav Meyrich, for a good look at the totemic supernatural in Jewish life in a European Ghetto a century ago. caw

07-27-2012, 06:59 AM	#37
StephanieFox Maybull the Bulldog Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MPLS Posts: 4,104	I don't know if this has been mentioned, but it would be hard to be a Jewish vampire because to keep kosher, you have to remove as much blood as possible from meat. You can't eat blood. Slaughtered animals are drained of all blood, which is allowed to go into the earth. You can't eat things made of blood, like blood sausage. So, you can't drink blood like a vampire would have to do. Plus, humans aren't kosher, either. Of course a Jewish vampire could be secular or Reform. __________________ Two months ago I couldn't even spell freelance writer and now I are one.

08-14-2012, 06:52 AM	#39
JSSchley Have Harp Will Travel Join Date: May 2010 Location: in ur B&N...facin out AWers bookz... Posts: 914	I have absolutely nothing to add. Except to say that this thread title keeps catching my eye, and man would it make a great book title. __________________ On the blog this week: Losing the Element of Surprise @jsschley on twitter Goodreads

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