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New Fish; Learning About Thick Skin
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia
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My suggestions: Get rid of the first sentence. Its confusing. Sounds like the guys is taking a walk down the street, no clue why he should be pointing out he's alive? You seem to do a lot of 'telling', not enough showing. The bolded parts need help... Each sentence starts and ends the same way. My suggestion: The worn dirt road passed slowly under his boots in the refreshing morning light. His backpack hung from his shoulder, it's weight as comforting as an old friend. He slaked his thirst from an old water skin. Its just a suggestion, I only rearranged your words and expanded a little. Just to give you an idea that it can be made much better very easily. (no critting my corrections lol!) |
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writer, rider, reader
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NC, USA
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The first sentence begins the story by introducing a question. (Character has spent three days in a cramped tavern room. Why?) But second and third sentences don't advance the story. They're just description. The thing is, readers don't care about the room. They want to know more about the character. So why not save the descriptions for a little bit later and instead provide more information about who the character is and why he or she is in that room?
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writer, rider, reader
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NC, USA
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Because otherwise, this opening has no conflict and no hook. It's just some guy out for a pleasant walk.
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Vermont
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From my NaNo project... Not in love with the 3rd sentence, but I need to write the last sentence in the story before I start tweaking. (Just reminding myself - Self, keep writing & resist the urge to edit!
)Grace eased up from the rumpled king bed where Skye had finally cried herself to sleep. Her daughter wasn’t the only one weeping these days. Grace’s own eyes felt puffy and hot and she knew her pale skin was mottled from hours of holding back the flood of emotions that hit anew every time she thought of Owen. |
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Harley Writer
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: The part of Kansas that doesn't look like the part of Kansas everyone thinks Kansas looks like.
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"He was alive." If this is an important statement, I'd start with telling us something to make us care. For example: "He was lucky to be alive and that simple truth added fresh flavor to the cool breeze." You can say alot or set up the right kind of tension with just a couple of sentences.
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"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." — Mark Twain |
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writer, rider, reader
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NC, USA
Posts: 3,027
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Neophyte Writer
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: In my house
Posts: 211
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Hey what a coincidence! Substitute opening with writing and I agree.
I have no delusions of how my skills measure against real writers. Uncle Jim's "Permission to Write Badly" is my primary inspiration at this point and after years of practice I may improve to "Write Adequetly". Hmmm, there may be a pattern here. My idea was to start the emotional conflict right away, but that obviously isn't a good idea. Thanks for the comments. Before I thought it was poor, now I know for sure, ha.
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Possibly not a real squirrel
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Coldest corner of the living room, United Kingdom
Posts: 4,503
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There's nothing wrong with that idea. Where it may have faltered is in the execution. We're not seeing the conflict that's in your mind.
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Writing from a female point of view seems to be generally regarded as something more like writing from the perspective of a deer: you might get points for novelty, but it'd be impossible to get right, and who really wants to hear a deer narrate a story, anyway? Jennifer duBois Damn the prologue, full speed ahead! Laurie McLean, Foreword Literary |
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writer, rider, reader
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NC, USA
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It's actually a wonderful idea. But I didn't see an emotional conflict in those sentences. They were all focused on how good he felt.
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More cowbell!
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: New England, USA
Posts: 907
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This is from my NaNo project. Needs some work but I promised myself I wouldn't edit until December
![]() A loose section of rusted chain link fence captured agent Cameron’s suit jacket as he jumped over it, but he didn’t stop. He hit the ground on the other side, wriggled out of its tightly fitted arms and sprinted ahead, narrowly avoiding the multiple bows of an aged river birch. A rotting log exploded into cinders as his foot slammed into it. |
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Neophyte Writer
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: In my house
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My idea was to contrast the last stretch of a journey with his negative emotional state. On reflection from comments, I could come across as gimmicky.
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New Fish; Learning About Thick Skin
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia
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practical experience, FTW
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: An antique land, whose lone and level sands stretch far away (sometimes the UK)
Posts: 1,506
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Nope and nope. Agent would only be capitalised if it was said to him in address. The species of the tree does not warrant capitalisation either as it's not a proper noun.
Sorry, I just can't hold back when I see incorrect grammatical advice
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More cowbell!
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: New England, USA
Posts: 907
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Great feedback, Kimmy. Thanks! And thanks for the catch, Kallithrix
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practical experience, FTW
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: An antique land, whose lone and level sands stretch far away (sometimes the UK)
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Sorry, I should have said punctuation advice
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illiterate primate
Join Date: May 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 694
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I have a different opinion on "agent." Used alone, like the agent Cameron is a hunk or Cameron, the legendary agent... will be in lower cases. But in the original context Agent Cameron is a collective expression. My CMOS 15th ed gives these examples [8.25]: "the mayor; Richard M. Daley, mayor of Chicago; Mayor Daley;" You can write: David Cameron, the prime minister, is silly; or Prime Minister Last edited by Bing Zabriskie; 11-21-2012 at 12:25 AM. Reason: P.M. Cameron, not P.M. D.Cameron |
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More cowbell!
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: New England, USA
Posts: 907
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Thank you, Bing!!
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writer, rider, reader
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NC, USA
Posts: 3,027
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"bows of an aged river birch" confused me until I realized that you meant "boughs." Last sentence uses the "as" construction again, resulting once more in a tangled action sequence. His foot slams into the log, then it disintegrates. (Is that what you meant by "explodes"? Not sure how it can explode into cinders. Was it on fire?) Details like "aged river birch" are surely not something he'd notice in his headlong dash. Looking at this as an effective opening...it's got action, but we don't know what he's running from or what's at stake, so it's hard to care. Precious space is wasted on descriptive details but we know nothing about him or his problem.
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The Stone River Last edited by BethS; 11-21-2012 at 03:17 AM. |
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Keep Right On
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Redditch, England
Posts: 110
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Anyone want a go at this one? It's the start of a chapter, rather than the whole novel, if that's okay.
The ship docked at Southampton and Edgar Farlow stepped off, breathing the English air, silently vowing never to leave it again. From all around him came shouts of joy as men rushed past, falling into the arms of loved ones. The sun scorched overhead and many of the men were bare chested.
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Though you're tired and weary, Still journey on, Till you come to your happy abode, Where all you love and you're dreaming of, Will be there, At the end of the road. |
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illiterate primate
Join Date: May 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 694
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"Ship" is too generic if it hasn't been talked about before. It may tell a lot about Edgar and the story whether he steps off of a yacht or a cargo ship or fishing boat. ETA: it's, kinda, explained in the 2nd sentence but still suggest to use a more specific word for ship unless it's clear from the preceding chapter. A ship docks (specific, usu at a dock) at/in a large city (which by the way took me a second to realize it's the Southampton in England rather than in Long Island since I live near NYC but shouldn't be a problem if it's clear the setting is in the UK) and a person steps off (precise movement at some precise place eg. can't step off in the harbor water which is still part of the city) sounds a little odd to me. The city (or just the name thereof) is too board a term for this sentence IMHO. I'm not sure why "English" air but maybe the ship is coming from Spain or the Carribian? If so it may be fine. "...silently vowing never to leave it again..." "It" means the ship or Southampton? Why "silently?" "...falling into the arms of loved ones" is a journalistic style of writing. A fiction is a much more objective piece of writing. I'd rather read judgmental/specific words like wives, women, mistresses, children, 5-legged aliens, etc through the eyes of Edgar. The placement of the third sentence seems odd. The first sets the scene, the second expands the scene and describes actions (think a camera moving along a railing system as the actors and extras run toward the women and kids), then you halt the action and talk about weather and muscles (ignore the actors and pan the camera up to the sky). I'm inclined to reword them a little, you know, experience with more cut n pastes. |
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Keep Right On
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Redditch, England
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Cheers Bing, some good points there.
"English" air was because I wanted to give an impression of a character returning to his homeland. The 'it' you ask about is England itself. 'Silently' is because he isn't speaking to anyone. Looks like that entire sentence needs a rewrite! 'Loved ones' could be changed to 'families' I suppose. To be honest, I doubt if Edgar himself would care who they are though! The third sentence is there to set up the fourth which tells us that Edgar is self concious about his own body, as he has a scar which he recieved at war in France in 1939 (which is what he is returning from and explains why he is happy to be home and the type of ship he was on). The scar foreshadows something which happens later on in the chapter. Thanks for the help!
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Though you're tired and weary, Still journey on, Till you come to your happy abode, Where all you love and you're dreaming of, Will be there, At the end of the road. |
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New kid, be gentle!
Join Date: Jan 2011
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First three sentences of my WIP.
No tracks, no vultures, and no hacked up remains. Police Chief Clark tossed his wide-brimmed hat on top of the file cabinet and slumped in his desk chair. At least Royce would be pleased that he hadn't found a severed head or a pile of entrails reeking in the hot sun that day. |
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writer, rider, reader
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NC, USA
Posts: 3,027
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In all, this opening feels stuck in a trough between events. Maybe you've started it too soon?
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I am a gerbil wrangler.
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Cheyenne, WY
Posts: 47
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Here are the first three lines from my current WIP. This is my first attempt at a novel.
“Ichabod!” said a booming male voice from each of the four speakers in the corners of the large freight elevator that was taking us farther and farther down below the world above. “Do not think of it as a punishment for your heinous crimes - or if you’re here because of someone else - do not think of it as your own fault for loving the wrong person or being born to the wrong parents! Think of it as an opportunity to help serve your fellow man in the world above! |
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New Fish; Learning About Thick Skin
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Lake Ozark/Devils Elbow, MO
Posts: 22
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Okay, I'm game. This is more like the first 5 lines, but they're short. **note: very rough draft as I try not to read/edit until I am completely done. (sometimes I get caught up in editing when I should be getting the story captured).
There it is again. That little tickle in the back of my brain. Or is it an itch? A nudge? I can’t remember what they called it. I only know I’m not supposed to have it. |
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