Happy Christmas!

Happy Holidays!

Welcome to the AbsoluteWrite Water Cooler! Please read The Newbie Guide To Absolute Write

editing for authors ad

A publisher or agency using Google ads to solicit your novel probably isn't anyone you want to write for.


Go Back   Absolute Write Water Cooler > Publishing > Self-Publishing: Print, Digital, Papyrus or Clay
Register FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-11-2012, 04:08 PM   #1
m00bah
practical experience, FTW
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 137
m00bah is on a distinguished road
Problems using a pen name when publishing?

I'm just wondering what issues I may run into if I publish through kindle and smashwords using a pen name?

I've been reading posts on google that things can get very tricky depending on the platform you use.

Such as cheques arriving under the pen name instead of your real name, resulting in problems with banks etc.

I plan on using a pen name for my work, but I'm not sure how simple this will really end up being.
m00bah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 08:03 PM   #2
veinglory
volitare nequeo
AW Moderator
 
veinglory's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: right here
Posts: 26,416
veinglory is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsveinglory is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsveinglory is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsveinglory is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsveinglory is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsveinglory is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsveinglory is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsveinglory is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsveinglory is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsveinglory is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsveinglory is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
Your account will always be under your real name. Both systems have separate fields for account/legal name and author/pen name. If you fill them out right, there should be no problem.
__________________
veinglory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 07:58 AM   #3
mshaw2268
practical experience, FTW
 
mshaw2268's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Trinity, Texas
Posts: 119
mshaw2268 is on a distinguished road
I think with Smashwords, you have to create a separate account; just use your real name in the info asking for payment details.

You can use pen names under one Amazon account, but I don't know if those names get an Author page. I've heard some say yes, while others say no.
__________________
Marty S.
website / twitter


mshaw2268 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2012, 04:05 AM   #4
itzrissa2u
New Fish; Learning About Thick Skin
 
itzrissa2u's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 14
itzrissa2u is on a distinguished road
You can also get a business account under your penname and then you can deposit checks, etc.

I did this not only for payments for articles and stories, but for contests, like the writers weekly 24hr short story contest so I could pay with my credit/debit card under my pen name.

Bank of America, Wells Fargo & Chase bank gave me a hard time about it- but US Bank had no problem with me opening a business account.

I got an EIN so I didn't have to give out my social for any accounts. it's free, and I did it online here... http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-...rs-%28EINs%29-
itzrissa2u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2012, 12:56 AM   #5
RobertEvert
practical experience, FTW
 
RobertEvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ivory Tower
Posts: 454
RobertEvert has a spectacular aura
This is all good advice. Thanks, everybody. I had an issue with a stalker after my first book, so I've been considering publishing under a different name. I'm glad I read your posts.
RobertEvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 02:58 AM   #6
ScottB
(author name Shad Callister)
 
ScottB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Alabama
Posts: 32
ScottB is on a distinguished road
Aside from the mechanics of it, be aware that using a pen name has costs. Your new pen name probably doesn't have any social networking clout at all yet, so you're starting from scratch and won't be able to use your family and friends and their networks.

Also, the time you spend setting up and maintaining all those accounts for your pen name in addition to accounts you may have for your real name is time you won't be writing or actually marketing. It doesn't seem like much, but realize that every time you want to check your pen name's email/sales numbers/facebook, you're going to have to log out of your real name accounts and log back in with the pen name. It's a pain.

I put a pen name on my book because I cowrote it and we thought marketing would be harder with multiple author names (better name recognition with a single, snappy pseudonym) but it has its costs. I tell people about my book offline and they're like "Wait, who's Shad Callister? Is that you?"
__________________
Shad Callister
author of Machines of Eden


A futuristic combat hacker is trapped on an island with a brilliant AI that wants to reboot the planet.
ScottB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2012, 01:45 AM   #7
TroyJackson
practical experience, FTW
 
TroyJackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Georgia
Posts: 158
TroyJackson is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB View Post
Aside from the mechanics of it, be aware that using a pen name has costs. Your new pen name probably doesn't have any social networking clout at all yet, so you're starting from scratch and won't be able to use your family and friends and their networks.

Also, the time you spend setting up and maintaining all those accounts for your pen name in addition to accounts you may have for your real name is time you won't be writing or actually marketing. It doesn't seem like much, but realize that every time you want to check your pen name's email/sales numbers/facebook, you're going to have to log out of your real name accounts and log back in with the pen name. It's a pain.

I put a pen name on my book because I cowrote it and we thought marketing would be harder with multiple author names (better name recognition with a single, snappy pseudonym) but it has its costs. I tell people about my book offline and they're like "Wait, who's Shad Callister? Is that you?"
Yep. Definitely what I'm finding out. Not the worst thing (having a pen name), but it can be a pain at times. And I don't just mean the occasional friend/family member asking, "Who's Troy Jackson?" or "Why did you use a pen name?" I feel like breaking out a tape recorder and playing the same answers...

But yeah, the swapping back-and-forth between email accounts and Facebook is a real pain. I didn't bother using Twitter with my real name, so at least Twitter is ALLLLL pen name.
__________________
Come visit me at:

http://www.tempestworks.com

Also on:

Facebook

Twitter
TroyJackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2012, 01:55 PM   #8
Arpeggio
practical experience, FTW
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 222
Arpeggio is on a distinguished road
I'm going to publish under a pen name also, and thought I'd ask here than open up another thread on this forum.

I have decided not to buy a block of ISBN’s from the agency, but instead to use CS’s “Custom ISBN*” https://www.createspace.com/Products/Book/ISBNs.jsp and preferably SmashWords “Premium ISBN” if it becomes available http://www.smashwords.com/dashboard/ISBNManager (no. 3).

I’m not going to use a new imprint under my original publisher name because the ISBN prefix would be the same, but would there be advantages in setting up as a new publisher and having own ISBN’s compared to all of the above? like control over my own ISBN's? With the above method I think I could always unpublish if I want?

Anyone know?
__________________
If you think Amazon vs Giants is bad, do you think that Amazon vs Self-publishers would be better?
Arpeggio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2012, 05:06 PM   #9
Captcha
Hmmm... I think I disagree.
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,096
Captcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthood
You can address the social media/e-mail nuisance by using different browsers for different identities. IE for personal, Chrome for your penname, or whatever. I have a few pennames and that's how I handle it.

In terms of unpublishing, Arpeggio, it depends what you mean by the term. If you self-publish, you can take the book off the market whenever you want, although it will take some time for various vendors to comply. But whatever copies of your book were sold will still be out there. Your book has been published, and that can't really be reversed...
Captcha is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2012, 08:40 PM   #10
Arpeggio
practical experience, FTW
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 222
Arpeggio is on a distinguished road
Thanks for your advice. So it looks like getting ISBNís from Smashwords or CS is closer to getting ones own ISBNís in terms of control IĎd have, all be it that I would be limited to their platforms and distributors which is fine.


A bit of a tangent; What about sticking on a second pen name for an authors one imprint, Written by ____ and ____, or even three? lol. If one name is more significant than the others in terms of finding out who you are it might work?, if all equally then of course it wouldn't.
__________________
If you think Amazon vs Giants is bad, do you think that Amazon vs Self-publishers would be better?
Arpeggio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2012, 03:49 AM   #11
Captcha
Hmmm... I think I disagree.
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,096
Captcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthoodCaptcha is a candidate for sainthood
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arpeggio View Post
Thanks for your advice. So it looks like getting ISBNís from Smashwords or CS is closer to getting ones own ISBNís in terms of control IĎd have, all be it that I would be limited to their platforms and distributors which is fine.


A bit of a tangent; What about sticking on a second pen name for an authors one imprint, Written by ____ and ____, or even three? lol. If one name is more significant than the others in terms of finding out who you are it might work?, if all equally then of course it wouldn't.
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I'd be careful about getting into anything that seems like deception. Pen names are an accepted literary tradition; adding imaginary co-authors doesn't have the same level of acceptance. And I can't really think of why it would be effective, to be honest.
Captcha is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2012, 06:03 PM   #12
TheKoB
Smooth Operator
 
TheKoB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 58
TheKoB is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arpeggio View Post
Thanks for your advice. So it looks like getting ISBNís from Smashwords or CS is closer to getting ones own ISBNís in terms of control IĎd have, all be it that I would be limited to their platforms and distributors which is fine.


A bit of a tangent; What about sticking on a second pen name for an authors one imprint, Written by ____ and ____, or even three? lol. If one name is more significant than the others in terms of finding out who you are it might work?, if all equally then of course it wouldn't.
I have only rarely seen fiction books that are written by multiple authors and honestly I was rather put off by it. Maybe I want my books to be just the expression of one single person...I really can't point my finger at what's making a book by multiple authors weird for me, but I guess I am not the only one that feels this way.

As Captcha said, you should refrain from doing it if unnecessary.
__________________
Enhance your mind with Sexy Knowledge for Clever Bastards!
TheKoB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2012, 08:32 PM   #13
Arpeggio
practical experience, FTW
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 222
Arpeggio is on a distinguished road
OK thanks just curious.
__________________
If you think Amazon vs Giants is bad, do you think that Amazon vs Self-publishers would be better?
Arpeggio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2013, 03:27 AM   #14
gingerwoman
Wicked Safari release date March3rd
 
gingerwoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,039
gingerwoman has earned our admirationgingerwoman has earned our admirationgingerwoman has earned our admirationgingerwoman has earned our admiration
I have heard of cheques arriving under the pen name but this has so far not happened to me. :-) I also read that their could be a problem if you died with your heirs not getting royalties on books under a pen name although from what Emily said this should not happen.
__________________
Christmas themed Hot Menage - Erotic Romance Read Blurb and Excerpt by clicking here -Amazon Buy Link from Samhain Publishing 4th place for Best Published Paranormal in the Passionate Plume award.




To find actively acquiring publishers and agents visit my blog
http://lisawhitefern.wordpress.com/
gingerwoman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2013, 03:57 AM   #15
Arpeggio
practical experience, FTW
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 222
Arpeggio is on a distinguished road
What about giving your pen name a PhD?

lol
__________________
If you think Amazon vs Giants is bad, do you think that Amazon vs Self-publishers would be better?
Arpeggio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2013, 01:01 AM   #16
ironmikezero
practical experience, FTW
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: LA & TX
Posts: 978
ironmikezero is a splendid one to beholdironmikezero is a splendid one to beholdironmikezero is a splendid one to behold
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arpeggio View Post
What about giving your pen name a PhD?

lol

Strongly discouraged... Unethical, to say the least, and in some jurisdictions, that would be considered fraud if you (your real persona, that is) haven't earned it.
ironmikezero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2013, 06:40 AM   #17
Stoane
New Fish; Learning About Thick Skin
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 11
Stoane is on a distinguished road
I also planned on using a pen name. More for privacy purposes than anything. I'd like the line between author and my personal life not to blur. The biggest challenge I'm finding right now since know one knows it's me is the beginning stages of the whole marketing aspect. There is no one linked to my pen name. No fan base, critics, nada. I think self publishing a free book on Amazon would help with that.

I know it's going to be harder to start that way, but I think it will be worth it.

Setting up a small business once you become established seems like an interesting idea...
Stoane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2013, 07:34 AM   #18
ebbrown
Easily Amused
 
ebbrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: East Coast
Posts: 627
ebbrown is a shiny, shiny jewelebbrown is a shiny, shiny jewel
I have had no issue using Amazon & Smashwords with a pen name. The checks are direct deposited to my bank account under my legal name.
__________________

The Mad Hatter: Have I gone mad?
Alice: I'm afraid so. You're entirely bonkers. But I'll tell you a secret. All the best people are.

Facebook
Twitter
EBBrown.net
ebbrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2013, 10:37 PM   #19
Liralen
Miss Conceived
 
Liralen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Taarna
Posts: 5,828
Liralen is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsLiralen is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsLiralen is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsLiralen is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsLiralen is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsLiralen is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsLiralen is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsLiralen is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsLiralen is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsLiralen is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsLiralen is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arpeggio View Post
What about giving your pen name a PhD?

lol
As in "Piled Higher and Deeper?"
__________________
The creative writing process is a lot like emotional binge and purge cycles.

Can you find the Pitbull?

WIP ~ The Black Dog Dialogues: At the raw, dark fringes of exhaustion, there is The Black Dog
Liralen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2013, 09:33 PM   #20
Arpeggio
practical experience, FTW
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 222
Arpeggio is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liralen View Post
As in "Piled Higher and Deeper?"
Almost but no. It's "Person of high Dopeyness".
__________________
If you think Amazon vs Giants is bad, do you think that Amazon vs Self-publishers would be better?
Arpeggio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2013, 12:52 AM   #21
Cathy C
Ooo! Shiny new cover!
Absolute Sage
 
Cathy C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 9,313
Cathy C is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsCathy C is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsCathy C is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsCathy C is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsCathy C is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsCathy C is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsCathy C is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsCathy C is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsCathy C is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsCathy C is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsCathy C is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKoB View Post
I have only rarely seen fiction books that are written by multiple authors
I've written with a co-author--both under a pseudonym and having both of our names on the cover, for over a decade.

If there really is a second person (rather than you and your own pseudonym) participating, I highly recommend a co-author agreement that sets out how income (and costs) will be managed. A number of online entities are happy to write a contract to one or two or ten people, but will only send money to ONE person. That person is then responsible to get the money to the others, and the publisher/distributor wouldn't be liable to any of the co-authors.

In our case, we have an agent who receives the funds from the publisher and splits them into separate checks. They also handle separate 1099 income reports at the end of the year.
__________________
Smiles!
Cathy Clamp
USA Today bestselling author
Re-release of Thrall series as URBAN FANTASY!
FORBIDDEN, coming 6/15!
My Website
Follow me: Twitter



".Adams and Clamp are adept at incorporating riveting plot twists into this fully imagined world" **Starred Review ALA Booklist

"Great chemistry between the leads and a swift pace. - Publishers Weekly

"An exceedingly intriguing heroine trying to survive a dangerous and complex world. Kate's struggles and choices are both vivid and terrifying. An unbeatably good paranormal!Ē RT Bookreviews
Cathy C is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Custom Search

If this site is helpful to you,
Please consider a voluntary subscription to defray ongoing expenses.

Buy Scrivener 2 for Mac OS X (Regular Licence)


All times are GMT +4.5. The time now is 04:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.