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That cheeky buggerer
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Repent! Repent! The end is nigh!
http://www.spectator.co.uk/susanhill...and-then.thtml
Whilst I do love the physical book, and will be the last one dragged out of my bookshop, with my nails firmly buried in the carpetry, I do not see the great danger of digitalisation. The music industry went through it, moving from vinyl to cd's. The vinyl market is still pretty strong, and gives room for lots and lots of really wonderful music stores. I can't help but feel that digitalisation is inevitable, and that we as writers must adapt to it, and learn from the mistakes that the music industry did, and then face the future from a much better position. The end is not nigh. Digitalisation is not evil. It can broaden readership (when the ereaders get much cheaper). It will more difficult to find a readership whilst being a drop in the flood of text that will be produced, but at the same time it will allow us to sell more books. What do you think?
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Doomed
Join Date: Dec 2008
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I think I'll be dead before it happens.
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in mourning. RIP JD
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From the article:
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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So... the sky's not falling?
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in mourning. RIP JD
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No. It's on tethers both from above and below. It's very secure. It may even be books that hold it up.
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Doomed
Join Date: Dec 2008
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If it's on tethers from above and below, they're erotica books holding us up.
That would put the world in SP's hands. Yipe. |
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That cheeky buggerer
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A little less emotional analysis:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...-stores-amazon And no, the sky is not falling - though they'd have you believe that.
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Makes useful distinctions
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Physical books win out every time.
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Between The Lines
Join Date: Oct 2009
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I just could not look a screen for 300 pages; my eyes would bleed. I mean, the feel of paper, the smell, the physical act of turning a page...none of that can be replaced.
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I like the new book smell.
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Between The Lines
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mmmm...new book. Yummy.
I wonder what a brandnew Kindle smells like? Plastic and liquid crystal?
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That cheeky buggerer
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Books will still be around, but I honestly think digitalisation will be good for writers.
1) Production costs will be reduced 2) Audience will be larger 3) Consumption of literary works would increase That would mean: Book length will cease to be so important - it will probably be the age when the novella start to shine, as a quick snack in the airport If quality vetting can be preserved, then there will be more room to experiment with fiction. Look how much more music is consumed compared to only twenty years ago. That could be true for fiction as well. No, I refuse to be a luddite about this. ![]() Digitalisation is good for writers. I love books, but i could care less about the medium through which my stories was published, as long as there was a quality assurance so the bottom scrape of the slushpiles wasn't shoveled out together with my books.
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Between The Lines
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If/when I get myself published, it'll be to see my years of agonizing hard work put to PRINT, on a real live bookshelf, with a shiny cover. NOT for a clickable download link on Amazon.com. Screw that noise.
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Unlike most outdated technology,video tape,seventy-eight records etc.Books are independent of any other devices .So, as long as the books actually exist people will be able to read them.
However,the number of book shops in the UK has crashed.If you look on Amazon there are thousands of books for sale for not much more than the postage.The fact is, the number of books for sale is outstripping the demand.For the small book retailer,the future looks grim. The down loadable book is a godsend for publisher and on-line retailers,as long as they can stop file sharing.I think there will be a big drop in the price of the book-readers and the paper book will no longer be produced for the mass market. Last edited by stephenf; 11-27-2009 at 07:10 PM. |
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I don't have an e-reader yet -- I always wait a few generations on the new tech, to let others complain the early bugs away. I also like the price decline.
I will eventually get one as a research tool, and I imagine that once I get used to it, I'll start reading fiction on it, too. I'll also be likely to sample a wider range of fiction, since if I don't like a novel, I won't have a corpse to dispose of or an unfairly slaughtered tree to mourn. But I'll still buy the books I love in physical form. A combination of print runs, POD and ebook formats should satisfy everyone. Hold onto your sabots, people.
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E-book supporters: Paper books are done for!
Paper book supporters: E-books are a fad! Bah! People who like both: To each his own. E-books aren't going away, but for now, I think both mediums will find a way to co-exist, as they have done for years. Your average Joe still can't afford an e-reader, and a lot of people still won't sit at their computer long enough to read a book that way.
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That cheeky buggerer
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I don't think paper books are done for. I hope not. I'm not very emotionally attached to the medium, however, and recognize that my interest lie in interacting with the reader's brain when telling a story. If that is done by paper, an ereader, or a fifty-foot hittite cuneiform inscription stone in Iraq is quite beside the point for me.
I do think that digitalisation will be good for writers, and I'll stubbornly hold to that.
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Riding the Query-Go-Round
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This discussion has been going on on Nathan Bransford's blog for a week or so. From one of the threads there:
http://blog.nathanbransford.com/2009...ublishing.html Quote:
$1 out of $10 is being spent on line, gift cards would be a big part of that, I'd imagine. Then there's the books only available at B&N .com, like POD books. There are large orders, like school required reading and manuals that are ordered online and delivered. Then there's the people who buy online and then go pick up their books at the store.
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organic zonbi farmer
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Maybe some. What drives many aspiring novelists is what also keeps them from being dissuaded by Nathan's blog post regarding a NYT bestseller earning $24k. It is the physical book, which can no more be replaced to that sort of artist than a poster print would replace a painting.
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Riding the Query-Go-Round
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"bestseller" is also subjective.
There's no baseline for that distinction. There are books that earn out (and would thus create royalties) and never hit that list.
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aka TomOfSweden
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IMHO, this can only be a good thing. As always new technology makes the world a better place. Luddites always fear change. Let's do our best to ignore them.
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I smile a lot :)
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E-books have their place, but i think too many people like books without batteries. Plus, it isn't the same problem as music; however you listen to music (LP, cassette or CD), you need power (batteries, mains etc), books don't need a power source in order to be enjoyed and they're already portable.
But now, all i want to do is find my copy of Chicken Licken!
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My daughter is taking an online finance curriculum from U. of Phoenix and uses a Kindle and loves it, especially for notation and quotation during homework assignments. For her purpose the e-reader is a time-saving convenience. Attempts to apply the same to fiction will attract a certain market segment, but I doubt they'll replace paper, at least in their present state.
Imagine a virtual paper invention combining both, with virtual pages having the look and feel of real paper, complete with virtual cover and binding...hm-m-m.
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