Fan-Fic-in' for Jesus?

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I have watched Fox News. I have read Chick Tracts. I have talked to fundies who believe Harry Potter is a sly pagan effort to normalize Satan worship and witchcraft among children. I have watched the Westboro Baptist Church demonstrate, and I am familiar with Landover Baptist Church, the Onion, Cracked, and Snopes.

The satire is obvious to me. I don't know how to make it plainer to others.
 

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Oh, you're probably right. I do tend to take things too literally. Also, pagans are way too disorganized to ever come up with a unified plot such as Harry Potter to convert people. But others are not so disorganized -- and they do write books to discredit others' religions -- this one, for example: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0937958344/?tag=absowrit-20

I have met that guy. He is actively trying to destroy me and people like me. So maybe you can understand why I take it seriously when people do that shit. Even if it is called satire.

ETA: Here's an article by Schnoebelen on Harry Potter: http://www.whale.to/b/straight_talk.html
 
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I have watched Fox News. I have read Chick Tracts. I have talked to fundies who believe Harry Potter is a sly pagan effort to normalize Satan worship and witchcraft among children. I have watched the Westboro Baptist Church demonstrate, and I am familiar with Landover Baptist Church, the Onion, Cracked, and Snopes.

The satire is obvious to me. I don't know how to make it plainer to others.

Like I said, I do think it's probably satire, but I just don't buy the "it's too perfect" argument.
 

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Well posting it on FF.net, to me, says it's satire.

One of the main reasons franchises allow all this fanfic and fanart and stuff is because growing a healthy fanbase is of far more benefit than going after individual copyright infringers. FF.net is one of the most well-known and large gathering place of Harry Potter fans. If you really think that reading Harry Potter would turn your little children into witches, why would you post your fanfic there, where all these witches are posting theirs? I'd buy that it's real a lot more if it was on a private blog or something...

I agree.

If the story were put up on another website, outside of the Harry Potter fandom, I'd be more likely to consider its validity. As it is, I find it unlikely that an ultra-conservative Christian mom would put her fanfic up on fanfiction.net.

I also find it questionable that if the mom finds Harry Potter to be so morally dubious, that she'd take the time to read it and learn who the characters are. Usually when people decry fiction as being immoral, they either haven't read it or haven't read it that closely.

Troll/satire fanfic is very common. Maybe especially so in the Harry Potter fandom, which is home to "My Immortal," the parody story largely considered to be the worst fan fiction ever.

I may or may not have written deliberately bad satirical fanfic in the past.

In short, if this was put up on the mom's personal blog or something, I'd be more apt to believe it. But there's so much troll fiction on fanfiction.net that it can honestly be difficult to tell the difference sometimes between stuff that's deliberately bad and stuff that's earnest.
 
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I have to admit that reading her fan fic made me want to try my hand at my own god-awful parody.
 

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I also find it questionable that if the mom finds Harry Potter to be so morally dubious, that she'd take the time to read it and learn who the characters are. Usually when people decry fiction as being immoral, they either haven't read it or haven't read it that closely.

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This is very true, as all that hysteria about Satanism in Harry Potter shows. If any of them had actually read the darned book...
 

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That is my point though -- Bill Schnoebelen (whose book and article I link to above) actually DOES go to the trouble to read it. He seems to have read it anyway (I haven't, so I can't really tell). I can give lots of examples, from people who watch porn so they can decry it (MPAA film code?), to people who 'infiltrate' pagan rituals so they can write about what Satanists we are, etc.
 

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I do wonder what people like that think of the Bartimaeus Trilogy and the like... but I guess they only go after popular books, huh?
 

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I do wonder what people like that think of the Bartimaeus Trilogy and the like... but I guess they only go after popular books, huh?


Oh, they think all fantasy is Satanic propaganda. They make the most noise about Harry Potter for obvious reasons - more people are reading it.
 

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I also find it questionable that if the mom finds Harry Potter to be so morally dubious, that she'd take the time to read it and learn who the characters are. Usually when people decry fiction as being immoral, they either haven't read it or haven't read it that closely.
Well for a start, the woman doesn't say that no one should read Harry Potter, just that it's inappropriate for children. That's why she's doing this, for the kids.

Second it is quite clear from the text that she has never read more then the wikipedia page. Her understanding of the characters is more like a bollywood remake of the matrix. Either she is trolling at the most hardcore level, or she really doesn't understand the majority of what happens in the books, beyond their synopsis.

Third, she's put out two new chapters since this thread was started, and says she's going to start taking writing classes, if her husband will let her.
 
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Well for a start, the woman doesn't say that no one should read Harry Potter, just that it's inappropriate for children. That's why she's doing this, for the kids.

And it being a children's book...

Either she is trolling at the most hardcore level...

Yes. See the snarky parody of the Dursleys as the Clintons, complete with unflattering pantsuit and hash brownies. See also 11 year old Harry referring to Sex and the City. Among other things. Great for kids, huh?

I'm not sure why it matters that she says she's taking writing lessons, but either she really needs them or it's part of the troll. Maybe both.
 

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Second it is quite clear from the text that she has never read more then the wikipedia page. Her understanding of the characters is more like a bollywood remake of the matrix. Either she is trolling at the most hardcore level, or she really doesn't understand the majority of what happens in the books, beyond their synopsis.

Actually, it's quite clear from the text that she's read a lot of Harry Potter fan fiction, at least, which makes me doubt she hasn't read the original books.

Third, she's put out two new chapters since this thread was started, and says she's going to start taking writing classes, if her husband will let her.

Uh huh. She's going to bite off her tongue if she plants it any more firmly in her cheek.
 

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I don't think she--if it is a "she"--needs writing lessons at all. I think the rewrite is close to brilliant. Certainly, it's better than the Twilight saga...

I think almost anything rates above the Twilight saga. :)gaah my fingers burn just typing it.)
 

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I do wonder what people like that think of the Bartimaeus Trilogy and the like... but I guess they only go after popular books, huh?

I recommended this for someone at work who has a kid who is a huge reader, and she was previewing it first. She told me it "wasn't their kind of book," but I have a feeling she had problems with what she saw as an un-Christian concept. She was really nice and not at all patronizing about it, though, so I'm cool with that.
 

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I refuse to say thank you for any of the links on this thread. I have wasted far too much time on them.
 

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I for one would like to thank you all for this entire thread. It has just carried me through a tedious three hour teleconference which I had to spend most of on mute as I was killing myself laughing.

This woman (we assume) is a satirical genius.