Sold books on KDP Select? Need your Advice

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I have a book just published on Amazon. New experience. I'm conflicted. Are my chances for selling more books if I commit to limiting sales for 90 days to KDP Select or offering my book for sale through other e-book distributors.? KDP Select will give away my book for free for a limited time. Does that move actually increase sales?

Any advice derived from experience greatly appreciated.

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The free days may or may not increase sales in the short term, but what they will do is get you some reviews quickly, and get the name of your book out there a bit.
 

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Benefit of free books

Thanks Angry Guy. our input helps. But I still think I can find other methods to get my name out. As I wrote, I'm new to the game. Guess I may have to live and learn. Big problem.

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I am waiting for my books to drop out of KDP Select so that I can publish them on Smashwords and make the first one in the series perma-free. The response on free giveaway days with KDP Select is so overwhelming that it seems likely a series with the first one permafree is the ideal situation for selling books.

But I don't know that yet, it's all theory.
 

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I had two books on Select for their initial post-release period. I got no reviews whatever out of the process; I had no plans to offer free days or anything, so maybe that was what kicked me out of the higher profile at which Select seemed to hint. AFAIK, I got no additional sales, either, and no borrows for either book's entire run. They are now out of Select, and I didn't choose this option for book #3 in the series.
 

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Thank you Katharine Tree & Deb Kinnard for coming to my aid. My nagging opinion? I don't want to give my book away free. I worked hard. I deserve recompense I held a book-launching dinner with fellow writers, 30 guests, sold 20 books with orders for more. My fellow writers fared equally well. Could Select do that? My inclination is to do my own publicity work, but I'm a babe in the dark woods. An elderly Babe, to be sure, but still wandering in darkness. Both of you have helped. Thanks again
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I disagree with your reasoning (and reasonable people can disagree!), but not with your decision.

The best use for KDP free, and free in general, is to jumpstart sales of a second book in a series. There's very little post promo bump for a single book.

The days where free could push unrelated material by the same author, or move the needle on reviews without additional advertising of the sale seem to be over.

KDP can still be worth it for the borrows and countdown deals if you're in a high-demand genre. It can do a lot for discovery. For a new book, one 90 day term in Select can be a worthwhile experiment just to see if it catches on in a big way. Going wide is pretty much always a marathon in comparison to Amazon, so that short period doesn't typically hurt.
 
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This is an interesting topic... something I'm debating as I face digital publishing. I like the idea of temporarily making a book free for advertising purposes. But, I'm not sure I need to do so.

Are most folks happy with KDP overall? Has it helped gain a strong reader base? And garnered reviews?
 

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The question of whether or not to do Select is highly individual. It's been discussed several times and it works well for some authors, not so well for others. It helped my first book until Kindle Unlimited came along; now, I doubt that it has as much of an effect as it did a couple of years ago. I'm sticking with it because it's the only way to get 70% royalties in India.

AS for free books, I subscribe to the opinion that they can help sales of other, related books (again, heavily dependent on genre) but they don't do a thing for reviews or sales of the same book.
 

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Are most folks happy with KDP overall? Has it helped gain a strong reader base? And garnered reviews?

I'm really happy with KDP. It added a new level of enjoyment to my fiction writing hobby. Now, I get to republish stuff that appeared in magazines in the past, and can find a small audience for stuff that didn't sell for whatever reason, or things with minimal appeal to commercial publishers.

I haven't gained a "strong" reader base. I just get occasional sales but it's all profit to me since I do everything myself.

I've gotten a few reviews, most of them very kind.
 

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amazon doesnt get much love on this forum but ive had success with kdp

recommend it
 

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My experience with free days is, that you are best using free days to drive sales to your OTHER books.


People who download your free book will come back to buy your OTHER books.


A lot of authors send me questions asking how I get my sales. But my key to success, is the fact that I have 170+ titles and write sets or series or serials. And not just fiction. Even my non-fiction is that way too.


For fiction I write as though I was writing a tv show. So that each story stands on it's own, but each story tells another segment of the character's lives. Like the Big Bang theory or The Simpsons. You can watch any episode and get a complete story without ever watching more. I do my fiction like that. That way I can write lots of stories about the same set of characters. Think of it like the Nancy Drew books, where each volume is about Nancy and her adventures, but each volume is a full complete story. (NOTE: DO NOT write a novel and break it up selling it one chapter at a time - that is against Amazon's ToS, and if they catch you doing it they will not only ban your books, they may also delete your Amazon account and block your isp.)


For fiction, I strive for stories of AT LEAST 50 pages (15,000 words), and aim at at least 75 to 90 pages, and I will point out that my best sellers are always the ones with 150+ pages (50,000+ words). My top selling fiction, is a series of novels, each volume being about 190/200 pages long (60,000 to 75,000 words). The shorter a story is, the more difficult I find it is to sell it.


In non-fiction I strive to focus on a narrow topic, within a broader topic. I'll write one big book (400 pages - 300,000 words or so) and then I'll divide it up into sections, so each section focuses just on one narrow topic with-in the bigger topic. So I will take the 400 page book and create a series of 8 books, each 50 pages long. But I don't publish them yet. Next I re-write and expand each of the little books, adding more information and details on each sub-topic, until the book is about 100 to 150 pages long. (For example: I may write a general book on homelessness, but then divide it into small books: one on how to survive being homeless during blizzards and hurricanes; one on how to build a shelter out of found items and how to maintain it for several years of homelessness; one on how to upgrade from a shanty tent to vandwelling; one on how to find safe access to food and water; one on the dangers you'll face while homeless and how to protect yourself; one on how to outfit a motorhome into a full time boondocking bugout machine; etc.)


I make my goal to have all my non-fiction books at least 100 pages and more then 100 pages if I have enough to say on the topic and usually I can get a book well over 150 pages.


In the end, I'll end up with 8 books of 100+ pages each (about 35,000+ words) that go into greater detail on various aspects of being homeless and surviving, instead of 1 big 400 page "general topic" book on homelessness in general, I brand them as a series, with matching covers, and NOW I do the free days.


When it comes to Free Days, I do the same thing for both my fiction and my non-fiction. I create a set of books, that has at least 5 volumes, with 10+ volumes prefered, and I will put volume 1 free, and volume 2 also free, and the following week, I put volumes 3 and 4 up for the .99c Countdown Deal.


What this does, is drive downloads to volumes 1 and 2, and gives readers a week to read 1 and 2, then come back with an interest in volumes 3 and for, which they find are on sale for .99c and so scoop them up. A week later, they have read 3 and 4, and come back looking for 5 and 6, and just buy them at full price because after reading the first 4 volumes, now they are hooked and want to read the rest of the set, and often will buy volumes 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 all at once.


I've found this to be the best method of using the Free Days to drive sales to your books.


I don't expect people to buy the first volumes, just because the free days boosted sales rank; instead I expect the people who downloaded the free books, to come back looking to buy the rest of the set.


And you can also only expect 1 sale to result for each 100 downloads. Free promos to paid sale conversion is only 10%, so if you got 100 downloads, you can expect 1 paid sale the following week. Any more then that is going to be a fluke. Say you got about 350 free downloads your first week, that will mean you can reasonably expect to see about 3 paid sales the following week.


With a series/serial/set of books, this multiples, to mean, you'll see those sales across all your books from the set. With slightly fewer sales of each of the final volumes.


In other words, had this been volume 1 of a 5 volume set, I would have seen something like this happen:


Volume 1 gets 350 free downloads.
Volume 2 gets 4 sales
Volume 3 gets 3 sales
Volume 4 gets 2 sales
Volume 5 gets 1 sale


This is why you see so many (KDP) authors who promote writing a series and then setting Volume 1 up as perma-free and then do free days on Volume 2 and Count down Deals on Volumes 3 and 4, never doing any free days or sales on final volumes. This is the method which has worked well or many authors, thus why it is recommended by so many of them. and it works in both fiction and non-fiction, because it is playing on, getting your reader hooked and coming back for more.

I like Select. I have books published all over the place, but the 170+ that I have on KDP are on Amazon exclusively, via Select and have been since 2010 - I was doing this method long before Kindle Unlimited came out, and I did not change my methods for KU. Because my books were already in Select, they got rolled over into KU, and now I borrows to consider. I'm not sure if KU is a longterm thing, so at the moment I'm not making plans around it.

But since KU came out that chart above, now looks something like this:

Volume 1 gets 350 free downloads.
Volume 2 gets 4 sales and 12 borrows
Volume 3 gets 3 sales and 9 borrows
Volume 4 gets 2 sales and 6 borrows
Volume 5 gets 1 sale and 3 borrows

I'm not sure what to think about that, other then, it's a dramatic increase of my income and, oddly, the addition of the borrows did not negatively impact the amount of sales I can expect after Free Days. And I see this trend in both my fiction and my non-fiction. Both do really well in KU. So, getting KU borrows is another aspect to consider with Select (you don't get the borrows if you're not in Select.)

Again, this is just what I've seen with my own books. I suspect genre plays a role here as well (I write Monster Porn, Bizarro, and Weird Tales, and my non-fiction is VERY autobiographical dealing with first person experience on topics I know extremely well: Homelessness; being an Adult with Autism; being transgendered; my culture and it's traditions; etc.), and I don't know if authors of other genres/topics have these same results with their books or not, so your results could be different.
 

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Yeah, I only have the first book in my series written, so I won't be going with free days. If, by a miracle, I sell more than 40 copies of my book, I'll write the sequel and then put this one free for awhile.
 

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I use KDP select for the first 90 days and it has been successful for the most part. My urban fantasy book (first self-published book) was selling 1-2 books a day, then I gave Select a chance and put it for free for five days. After that my sales jumped to 50-100 a day for a few months. I don't know if sales jumped because of the genre and the free ebooks helped or if it was fluke. My young adult fantasy books saw a slight increase in sales, but not as much as the urban fantasy book.

I do find that almost all my sales come through KDP. So having Smashwords, Kobo, and NookPress active aren't the best. But I do like having my stuff available elsewhere, so it's really a personal choice. But I think 90 days here and there isn't a terrible way to go with Select.
 

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First, you need to understand two things. Amazon's entire task in life is maximizing profit for Amazon. Whether or not your book sells or you make money is secondary. And, no program for any sales or distribution works 100% in favor of 100% of books. You can't know whether or not any Kindle program will be good or bad for you and your book until you have done the research for that specific work. Which almost always means that you need to experiment with KDP, Select, Unlimited and whatever program Amazon creates tomorrow to find out how it works for you.

There's a reason for trade publishing houses. If nobody needed to do research and sales projections, then nobody would need someone else publishing their work.

Jeff
 
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