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Old 12-05-2014, 11:04 PM   #2426
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:56 AM   #2427
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Hello back to Supergirl, Stylo, Heza, and Jed,

I didn't have my query vetted here on AW, but I did have a couple of people read it. After December, I think I can call most of the queries CNR's. I know I should start with revising my query, but in all honesty, I probably queried the manuscript too soon.

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Old 12-23-2014, 01:36 AM   #2428
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Hello!

I read and write a lot of YA, but I'm starting to wonder if upper middle grade is my real sweet spot. A disproportionately large number of the upper middle grade books I've read end up becoming some of my favorite books of all time. I haven't written any middle grade novels yet (besides a few unfinished drafts when I was in middle school), but I keep hoping that as I improve my craft I will one day be able to write one.
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Old 12-23-2014, 09:01 PM   #2429
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Hi there endearing! I'm with you on the upper-middle grade thing -- I'm writing my first one at the moment and it's so much fun to write!
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Old 01-09-2015, 08:20 AM   #2430
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New to Forum!

Happy to have found this place! I am an agented MG writer, first book is currently being shopped, and am in the deep waters of editing my second MG. I am looking for a supportive community to build my writing craft with. Any tips? Any fingers pointing me in a certain direction? Preferably not the middle finger as that is usually pointed up. Many thanks and am so excited to have found you!
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Old 01-09-2015, 06:46 PM   #2431
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Congrats on finding an agent! Good luck with subbing and with your edits.

I guess, generally, we say "read the stickies" for general advice. I don't frequent it, but there's a thread in the Rejection and Dejection sub-forum where people who are on sub can commiserate.

Other than that, welcome, and if you think of anything specific you want to ask, someone's sure to know something. I think we've got at least a few MG authors here who are currently on submission.
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:31 PM   #2432
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Awesome! Thank you for the helpful tips, heza.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:51 PM   #2433
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Unhappy Help me understand rejection letters

Hi,

I'm writer of contemporary romance who is now dipping her pen in the MG market, because my eight year old is badgering me to write something she can read.

I have written a 43,000 upper MG fantasy. Currently doing my third edit and querying at the same time. A few agents rejected yet wrote the following, "While this has some nice points…", " wasn’t connecting wholeheartedly with your writing, despite its many charms," "and I hope you will continue querying other agents with this,".

Does anyone understand these cryptic agent feedbacks?

All this feedback is leaving me confused. I have no clue where I'm going wrong. Does anyone here know of critique groups who can review maybe the first 10 pages or more of my MS and the Query letter? I need a perspective other than mine.

Thank you for all your help and suggestions. Thank you.

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Old 01-21-2015, 09:31 PM   #2434
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Hi D. Welcome!

Well, let's start with the critique part so you have links to look at.

You've got enough posts to create your own post in the Children's SYW subform of Share Your Work (password=vista) where other MG writers (us) will take a look and give you feedback. Within Share Your Work also lies Query Letter Hell SYW, where you can get feedback from some very knowledgeable people about your current query letter. If you're looking for a Beta Read of a greater portion of your work, you can also post a request in Beta Readers, Mentors, and Writing Buddies.

What most people here will advise is that before you start your own post in SYW, you look at some of the other posts there and offer feedback. This serves several purposes: 1) By not only critiquing other people's work but also watching it get critiqued by others, you learn to identify what might be basic issues in your own work. If you can fix these issues on your own before you post in SYW, you'll get more meaningful crit on deeper issues rather than surfaces ones you could have already fixed. 2) If you show a willingness to critique other people's work, thus giving to the community before you receive, you're likely to get more and more experienced critters on your thread (we like to help people who help other people). 3) Watching and participating in critique in an objective way, first, lets you see the process of it so that when it's your turn to get critiqued, it won't sting as much and you'll have a feel for the etiquette in receiving crit and thanking critters.

You might also get some comments here about waiting to query further until you've completed your third edit and feel your work is the best it possibly can be. Many people feel it's wasted effort to send out work you know needs more editing because you'll potentially burn the bridge with that particular agent for that particular work if it's not quite ready to query.


As to what the rejection comments mean... it's difficult to tell from such short snippets. They might be anything from kindly worded form rejections, to agents who genuinely liked your work but didn't love it quite enough to take it on, to agents who loved it but don't quite have the connections to sell your particular type of story but know surely someone else in the industry will. Form rejections are general and vague. Personalized rejections are a little more specific and sometimes mention details from the manuscript. If it seems specific enough to have been personalized, then I'd take them at face value—i.e., you probably just haven't found the right agent for it yet.
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:45 PM   #2435
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Thank you so much Heza. U da best!

You have given me immensely helpful information. It seems the SYW requires a password other than the one we use to login in the forum. Do you know anything about it? Thank you once again! ))
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You have given me immensely helpful information. It seems the SYW requires a password other than the one we use to login in the forum. Do you know anything about it? Thank you once again! ))
I edited my post above afterward, but if you haven't seen it, the password for SYW is vista.
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I edited my post above afterward, but if you haven't seen it, the password for SYW is vista.
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Old 03-26-2015, 10:10 PM   #2438
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Hi there MG people! I'm mainly a YA writer, but while driving yesterday an idea for a MG hit me full on in the face, a real tooth-buster.

Now, as I sit and think on it, I wonder if it will appeal to the younger audience, or any audience at all. I've never posted my ideas or plots anywhere around AW, so figured I'd ask you folks if there's a place, or if I can ask here, or if I should just shut up and write it.


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Hi Jaegur!

I'm sure you can talk about your ideas here, but there's also the sandbox for general brainstorming.
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Thanks! I went ahead and made a scatter-brained thread over there.
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Old 04-12-2015, 03:19 AM   #2441
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I thought I'd introduce myself here. I am working on my first book, a MG sci-fi/adventure. I am sure I will be on this forum a lot
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Old 04-12-2015, 02:56 PM   #2442
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Hey-o kidlit gang!!

Anyone else love books about contests? Have any recommendations?

My brain seems to default to "let's make it a competition!" and I'm not sure if it's because I watch too much reality TV (and I don't even watch that much...) or because I watch lots of anime and like half of those are competition based...

How valid is this as a plot device and at what point does it become repetitive?
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CheG, my favorite MGs about competitions/contests are The Gollywhopper Games by Jody Feldman and The Candymakers by Wendy Mass. Have never tried to write one, but ... hmmm, I wonder....

I think it's perfectly valid as long as you make the reader care about the character(s) and outcome! Competiton is a basic human impulse.
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Anyone else love books about contests? Have any recommendations?

My brain seems to default to "let's make it a competition!" and I'm not sure if it's because I watch too much reality TV (and I don't even watch that much...) or because I watch lots of anime and like half of those are competition based...

How valid is this as a plot device and at what point does it become repetitive?
I think contest books can be really fun. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Escape from Mr. Lemoncello's Library are two that spring to mind.
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I like competitions because they also have built in conflict. I think I need to find something simple to write. I have been so bummed with my last failed MG manuscript simple might be the best. And competitions have everything I need to make a nice straight forward story.
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I'm sorry you're feeling bummed right now, Che. I think writing something that just sounds fun is a great idea. I'm doing that myself with a lower MG girls' soccer book. Good luck!
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CheG, I'm in the same boat! I've been querying a MG with a hostage situation/presumed terrorists and finding agents really do not like that angle in books for kids. Maybe YA, but that changes everything.

My WIP is humorous contemporary. Loving the experience of writing something lighter and more straightforward.
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