mirandashell
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That's interesting. That used to be the case here in Michigan, but no longer. Most schools ban guns anywhere on the property.Often the kids will go hunting before school and have a shotgun or two in their vehicles right on the school parking lot.
I was in the shooting club in high school. We competed against other schools, but I can't remember if any of them actually had a shooting range inside. I know ours did not.That's interesting. That used to be the case here in Michigan, but no longer. Most schools ban guns anywhere on the property.
But I remember when kids would bring guns to school during deer season to go hunting as soon as they got out. My brother-in-law (who is a few years older) remembers shooting guns in a range in the basement of the school.
Ironically, there were no school shootings then.
My knee jerk reaction was hell yes! If the principal had been armed, she could have stopped the gunman.
My knee jerk reaction was hell yes! If the principal had been armed, she could have stopped the gunman.
That's interesting. That used to be the case here in Michigan, but no longer. Most schools ban guns anywhere on the property.
But I remember when kids would bring guns to school during deer season to go hunting as soon as they got out. My brother-in-law (who is a few years older) remembers shooting guns in a range in the basement of the school.
Ironically, there were no school shootings then.
Schools have anti-weapons policies in place. I think we've discussed it more than once where a student was expelled for bringing a squirt gun, a kitchen knife that they had forgotten was in thei bookbag for whatever legitimate reason.I'd suggest that if a teacher is not responsible enough to carry a concealed weapon in school, then he or she should not be responsible enough to carry anywhere. Conversely, if they are responsible enough to carry other places, they should be responsible enough to carry at school.
raburrell & fireluxlou - It is probably my own wishful thinking. I certainly didn't mean to come across as blaming the principal. I guess it was because I wish someone anyone had put that asshole to the floor the moment he walked into that school. From the account I read, the principal lunged at the gunman. No one is media shaming her for not stopping him. She's lauded as a hero -- and rightfully so. I guess I figured if she was willing to lunge unarmed at a loaded for bear maniac, she would have been willing -- if trained -- to shoot him. Again -- wishful thinking and speculation on my part. And a good deal of trying to find a solution to comfort me when I drop my son off in the morning and wonder what if it's the day some other asshole decides to storm a kindergarten class.
No, I get that (I have a son in kindergarten too).raburrell & fireluxlou - It is probably my own wishful thinking. I certainly didn't mean to come across as blaming the principal. I guess it was because I wish someone anyone had put that asshole to the floor the moment he walked into that school. From the account I read, the principal lunged at the gunman. No one is media shaming her for not stopping him. She's lauded as a hero -- and rightfully so. I guess I figured if she was willing to lunge unarmed at a loaded for bear maniac, she would have been willing -- if trained -- to shoot him. Again -- wishful thinking and speculation on my part. And a good deal of trying to find a solution to comfort me when I drop my son off in the morning and wonder what if it's the day some other asshole decides to storm a kindergarten class.
raburrell & fireluxlou - It is probably my own wishful thinking. I certainly didn't mean to come across as blaming the principal. I guess it was because I wish someone anyone had put that asshole to the floor the moment he walked into that school. From the account I read, the principal lunged at the gunman. No one is media shaming her for not stopping him. She's lauded as a hero -- and rightfully so. I guess I figured if she was willing to lunge unarmed at a loaded for bear maniac, she would have been willing -- if trained -- to shoot him. Again -- wishful thinking and speculation on my part. And a good deal of trying to find a solution to comfort me when I drop my son off in the morning and wonder what if it's the day some other asshole decides to storm a kindergarten class.
Most teachers will tell you that, at some point of every day, controlled chaos is the best they can hope for.
That's why I think the better answer instead of letting teachers have their guns was to have police presence at school or an ex-military security guard. They're trained for handling the adreneline.
Oh, I don't know. There've been school shootings--meaning people being shot at a school--all across time. Do you mean "rampage"-type killings? I'd agree that the frequency of such has increased in recent decades, but I don't know how that works out, with regard to population and demographics.Ironically, there were no school shootings then.
PS--Actually that whole thing was written with tongue lodged firmly in cheek. I keep my guns--shotgun and small rifle locked in a cabinet in a house thirty miles from here. I don't keep them in my house because my family has a problem with depression and bi-polar.
I would not want to give up my guns but I don't want them out and about right now. If the mountain lion shows up I'll just have to chunk it with a rock. That works with bob cats and coyotes. If a school shooter shows up I will lock the kids into my classroom BEFORE they get to their guns. It won't be easy but I will do it!
That's why I think the better answer instead of letting teachers have their guns was to have police presence at school or an ex-military security guard. They're trained for handling the adreneline.
as a Brit, it shocks me that anyone can seriously discuss having more guns in schools, rather than less. More guns anywhere, rather than less. It shocks me to my socks.
Yet again, New York City. Less than four months ago. Lone gunman. Two dead. Nine injured. All nine shot by trained professionals.
Yet again, New York City. Less than four months ago. Lone gunman. Two dead. Nine injured. All nine shot by trained professionals.