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practical experience, FTW
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Not really. I pretty much have to sit down with a notebook thinking "I need some new ideas" to have a hope of finding one. Which isn't so bad : I'm not distracted by shiny new ideas because I don't have any shiny new ideas until I try to force them out of my brain.
I do sometimes have rather minor epiphanies on how to make stuff work when I'm in the middle of a draft. I'm not sure those truly qualify as "epiphanies." |
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Queen for a Week
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Pittsburgh
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One of my WIPs came from a dream, which I sort of consider an epiphany. The others developed more gradually, but I still manage to have small epiphanies here and there throughout the stories.
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storm central
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Still three blocks from the Atlantic Ocean.
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I've had many "epiphanies" through the years. My first being creative non-fiction that I wrote in an hour, polished in another hour, and was my first submission. It got published (and I was paid) a few months later. From then on, I was off and running.
Until this past November. I got stuck. So stuck that not even bits and pieces of old material got me out of it. Around late December, it hit me what my next novel would be and it's like it's writing itself. I already have 13,000 words written. |
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Now what?
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I get story ideas at all sorts of odd times.
And they are definitely "story ideas". They are not "epiphanies". The word has a more specialized use. It has spiritual and psychological connotations. It's more about having insights and realizations into general or specific things. As writers, we should have more respect for the meanings of words. Seriously. Refer to ideas as epiphanies now and sooner or later people are going to start referring to story ideas as revelations or apocalypses. Quote:
Wikipedia usually needs to be taken with a grain of salt but I think they're right on the money here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphany_%28feeling%29
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Time Traveler
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Southern California
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I get epiphanies all the time. I am trying to learn to tone it down and just write it out. I often lose steam because I talk about it too much, or because I don't develop the idea after its initial basic premise. If I could be practical, calm down and get to work, my epiphanies might actually turn out to be worth something. So I know how it goes...you might have better luck than me however...Hope so!
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practical experience, FTW
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Now what?
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Exactly the word I was looking for.
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Epiphanies are fabulous too...at least, I assume they are.
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refragatio futilis est Last edited by Rufus Coppertop; 01-28-2013 at 08:51 AM. Reason: clarification |
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That hairy-handed gent
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Who ran amok in Kent
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More often than not, I have it happen while writing. The one that comes to mind first came early in a novel, a scene I was writing involving two young American Army soldiers in a rear area base in Vietnam, ca. 1969. They struck up an odd friendship after dark one night when one went out into an open area to smoke some weed, and ran into the other who had gone to the same place to observe the stars. As lights out drew near, they made their way back to their barracks, and this happened:
As they reached the dimly illuminated edge of the company clearing, Saint almost fell over the outstretched legs of a body. I had no idea where that line came from. It wasn't part of my conception for the scene. It almost appeared on the page without my volition. I remember staring at it for a moment; I could either jettison it, or go with the flow. I did the latter: He looked around, saw nothing else amiss, and leaned over to check the body. It was a soldier in jungle fatigues, lying on his front, head cradled in one arm so the face wasn't visible. One foot was booted, the other bare. Saint tugged at the nearest shoulder, to roll him over. "Helen," the body moaned. Now I had a character. I have no idea where that idea came from, either. But that little moment evolved into a major subplot that echoes and re-echoes through the rest of the novel, to have a significant effect on the conclusion. It wasn't planned. It was in no outline, not even the rawest bullet-point kind of thing I tend to work with. All told, it probably generated ~12,000 words of the story, including three complete chapters. This kind of thing is the major reason I urge people who ask questions about how to proceed when they think they're stuck, to "just write". Writing generates ideas. Epiphanies. Oh, yeah. I needed a name for this new character. I called him 'Smith". That worked, too. caw
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New Fish; Learning About Thick Skin
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Well this is awesome I dint expect to get some many interesting/great replies on this topic haha thanks guys!
![]() Also on another note that makes this even a little more interesting it the fact that the epiphany came to me when rereading something I already knew and had always been amazed with it was just as simple as the names of our planets that inspired me just thinking about this idea so far blows my mind the way it happened and how big the idea is now I just have to figure out what the conflict is going to be lol I am terrible and creating a believable/interesting conflict :P |
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Moderation in All Things
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Bowties are cool
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: In a world of my own making
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To be honest, I'm not even sure what an epiphany is. I remember taking a college fiction class and this one student kept yelling "Epiphany!" At the weirdest moments. I had never even heard of the word before. So I looked it up and it said it was the day the wise men reached Jesus. So I'm still baffled what that has to do with fiction writing.
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Chasing the glam...
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Albany, Oregon
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Snazzy bow tie there, Shadow. Like all words, context helps. As Roger said, the capitalized version has to do with a religious event. The writer in your class meant he or she experienced a flash of inspiration.
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New Fish; Learning About Thick Skin
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Awe well thanks for that I dint even know. haha but i dint meant that
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(wannabe) writer of Orcotica
Join Date: Aug 2009
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I get them quite a bit. And always when I am least able to make note of any kind.
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