James D. Macdonald said:That's the address of Digital Book Express.
That makes two PA authors that I'm aware of whose books were printed there.
Make that three authors...
Anyone wanting a free copy to peruse quality, etc., just let me know!
James D. Macdonald said:That's the address of Digital Book Express.
That makes two PA authors that I'm aware of whose books were printed there.
I would think that LS would apply QA from their end as well, especially considering the small numbers involved. This oddity, in addition to the DigitalBook info, supports our suspicion that PA uses LS only for the author copies (which are so often reported to be of better quality than later shipments). For the rest of the orders through them, PA then uses whatever back-alley POD is running a special that month.Medievalist said:Ordinarily, when LS inadvertently ships flawed product, they tell you to destroy it, and they'll credit the account. I've seen many PA books that wouldn't meet even basic QA criteria, in terms of improperly applied sealant, bad cover attachment, ink spotting and other print artifacts on the cover, internal printing errors, binding issues, adhesive errors, that I wonder if they take the credit and ship the books . . .
T42 said:I have been pretty busy but I wanted to stop by and let you all know that the "banished" pa authors do have a site which I cannot disclose until I have been invited too do so, but they are all fighting back and rejoicing at having freedom of speech. I have invited them all over here though and let them know that we only have the authors interest at heart and are not out to bash anyone but pa. Oh, they just opened the doors and already have 46 members that were banned from pa.
And this is probably why IP Anonymizer services do such brisk business.ResearchGuy said:FWIW, Yahoo does that, and warns everyone who posts on its boards about that practice.
CJWilkes said:I happen to be the person who wrote the comment to the other author on the PA message boards. She was upset that someone attacked her book or life story in the form of a review.
BTW - I am horrible with spelling, but I have much to say, so try to skip over my not being perfect....
The problem I have had lately is the tactics many seem to feel necessary for disuading the authors from PA. PA does have it's problems, but attacking a fellow author simply by the choice of publishers seems childish.
There are many great authors who go through PA, but as all of you have mentioned, PA is far from perfect.
Yes, my book was published through them and I have a 7 year contract. My next book might not be published through them. I think it is great that so many have their opinions and share them, because we all learn from them.
What I do not appreciate is people posting rude things about my book because of their dislike for PA. My book and PA are 2 different things. I have recieved a 1 star rating from someone and I am grateful that he was honest. I have learned so much from him. I have also recieved 1 stars for people just attempting to attack PA such as from Travis Tea which had nothing but jabber jabber... which had nothing to do with my book, but all to do with my Publishing company and their dislike for it.
How do tactics such as this and those of writing hud about PA in our guestbooks, help "The Cause?"
Being a published author through PA has taught me what I want and don't want for the next go round. Being with them is educating me and also those I chat with on the boards. I hope that PA will make a huge change in the way things are run... but until then, I have an important message to share with others - in my book... "Daddy, I Forgive You."
My publishing company should not be a deterant to my work.
I am also learning through this experience that I have much to learn. I am not the best writer, but you never know, maybe one day I will.
Let's learn by educating each other, instead of trying to beat up on each other.
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T42 said:Mem
Oh, they just opened the doors and already have 46 members that were banned from pa.
(This coming from someone who used to think her first novel was the best thing since sliced bread, and who only now, writing her third book, is producing text on a publishable level.)
Unfortunately, ten or twenty upfront may be misleading, depending on how many people you know (and maybe what kind of a salesperson you are?)...James D. Macdonald said:That's why they try to get people to front-load their orders with the two weeks hurry-hurry-hurry 50% offer -- better order a hundred! If people just ordered ten or twenty to see how it went ... and they saw how it went ... PA would have a hard time keeping up their averages.
No problem NY Lady. I was told that they had been banned but I also noticed last night after posting that I had seen a couple of them that are still posting at PA. (But those who have been banned now have a place to go if they didn't feel like they did before) Either way I think that it is great that they (we) have a place to vent. I have noticed that most of them just seem happy to say what they want and not get banned or treated like a child because they are voicing their opinions. I hope that they will come here and check this site out too.Passionate N.Y. Lady said:Sorry to barge in here, but I have a correction to make. Please, excuse me. The now 48 authors, who have joined that site of PA Banned-Its, are not all banned. Some came there to be able to 'freely' voice their concerns, seeing as PA will not address certain issues with them in an open forum and, in some cases, privately.
spacejock2 said:If we could bottle that knowledge there wouldn't be a POD publisher on the planet. I was the same - book one finished, look out world here I come. Now I'm the grizzled verteran of three books I can look back and chuckle at my early efforts. The last thing I'd want is for that unpublishable early work to be... well, published.
The truth is, after finishing your first book you want to turn from the hard work of writing to the fun of being loved and praised by everyone, and as quickly as possible. POD publishers can give you that feeling to a small degree (along with morning-after regrets), provided 'everyone' is your family & friends.
Blend instant gratification with the cachet of dealing with a 'traditional' publisher and it's no wonder people fall for the company line. This lot weren't around when I was first looking for a publisher... had they been, I'm sure I would have been interested myself.
Now I'm the grizzled verteran
Heck Dee, if we are talking about Heiney's I will eyeball it for free. I'm a butt man.DeePower said:These comments don't belong here. I don't take offense to much, but I do to this. What does the size of a posterior region have to do with this discussion?
Dee
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Originally Posted by Gratian Gasparri
I just caught a glimpse of it while surfing the PAMB. Setting aside the question of modesty, is it just me or is her butt like really fat?
...I have not done an up close heiny evaluation of that pic, nor do I intend to do so at the present time. Maybe if you slip Kev a fiver he might consider eyeballing it closely....
- Victoria[size=-1] "Traditional publisher" is a term of very recent origin. It was invented by the first of the author mills in order to distinguish itself from the fee-based PODs (whose business model, except for the fee, it otherwise followed very closely). The term has no meaning in the publishing industry, which by definition doesn't include vanity and self-publishing operations. ("Commercial publisher" or "trade publisher" is more appropriate.)
Unfortunately, the term has come into common usage, and you'll often see a claim of "traditional" publishing on the websites of POD-based independent publishers. T[/size][size=-1]he implication is that though they're smaller, they're essentially just like Random House or Penguin. In fact, all you can count on is that the publisher won't ask for money on contract signing. Other components of the commercial publishing model are often missing (rigorous selectivity, standard discounts, a returns policy, competitive book pricing, effective marketing), and elements absent from the commercial model are often present (nonstandard contract terms and peculiar business practices).
Publishers that call themselves traditional may simply be inexperienced. Sometimes, though, they're dishonest, and are using the label in an effort to mislead authors. While it's not an automatic red flag if a publisher proclaims itself traditional, be aware that the term doesn't have an accepted definition, and tells you nothing about how the publisher selects, produces, and markets its books.
Jeff said:Isn't there a psychological term for those who relish the action of going around exposing themselves in public?