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Dreamer of dreams, teller of tales
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PA author gets fired from job because of book
I have to run out the door, but I wanted to post this before I did. Here's an article about a librarian who lost her job at a small town library because her "fictional" account of life at small town library wasn't ficitonal enough.
Her publisher? Why, PA. ![]() http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72228 Be back later. If this already had a thread, Mods, I apologize! Susan G.
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Libraries are bastions are free speech unless you slander someone and:
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Here's the link to the author's hometown newspaper with the original story:
http://www.ludingtondailynews.com/ne...story_id=41013 And this is what one reader posted on that same site on Aug. 11: "Have any of you even read this book? I was able to pick out every character in this book. Her identity became known because she sent letters to everyone she knew saying she wrote the book..." Aside from any issues the individuals she may have used as models for her characters might have; this is now a public issue in that community and will continue to receive a great deal of attention because she is appealing her termination. |
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I love that in the article she can't figure out how people knew it was her because she used a pen name, when the pen name is her maiden name, her father (who of course bears that name) is something of a local celebrity, and she says she picked it so some people would know who she was and that PA sent out letters to her friends and acquaintances. And they used a picture of the library where she works on the cover. Clever! This isn't a free speech issue; the woman has committed a potentially libelous act. Good luck getting legal backup from your printer.
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practical experience, FTW
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This is not a free speech issue. This is an issue of YOU DO NOT BREACH YOUR PATRONS' CONFIDENTIALITY. The ALA is absolutely crystal clear on that. If the library director is correct that her descriptions are detailed enough and not very fictionalized, then she absolutely should have been fired.
In a lot of places, it is pretty hard to get fired from a library job. But this would do it. ...I do find it hilarious that she defends herself by saying that hardly anybody would ever have known about the book, because while it's true, it's not what most people want for their novels!
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teh evil broad
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I like how she says that she couldn't come up with the characters on her own.
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Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from responsibility for what you say. If you're going to claim someone is a sex offender (as she apparently did in her book; claiming sex offenders were using the computers in the library) you'd better be able to back that up.
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seriously, how did she NOT think that anyone would find out and be upset?
sell the house and get out of town... |
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No, not freedom of speech. And wasn't iUniverse or Xlibris sued because of a similar book? The publisher was also held liable for the ...uh...libel in the book they produced.
Hmm...
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I found this whole story hugely amusing. Thanks for posting.
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Dreamer of dreams, teller of tales
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![]() Here's the other thing. She's obviously a librarian who doesn't know how to do RESEARCH. A little research would have both informed her that people who write "novels" based on real people that are recognizable will get themselves into big trouble, AND that PA is not <ahem> the best option for publishing out there. A little research would have taught her how to submit to the big publishers -- the ones who publish MOST of the books on the shelves in her libraray. <sigh> Susan G.
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Lady, if your book is any good at all, own your words, use the PR. ETA: and just maybe you'll be able to afford the lawsuits.
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It was something to do with, I believe, a husband writing a nasty tell-all about his ex-wife, if I remember correctly. She was a romance writer.
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If you're talking about a true small town, the library may not have required one.
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Rebecca Brandewyne. He claimed all sorts of nasties about her, including plagiarism. No real publisher would have touched it because he couldn't back anything up.
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Rebecca Brandewyne (sp?).
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I feel sorry for the people in that small town who are able to identify themselves from what is written. If I was one of those people and what the author had written was not true, I would sue her. I wonder why she wrote negative things about people, when there must have been so many positive things she could have said about the community in which she lives. Then the author might have excited positive media interest which is much more worthwhile.
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It's such a violation of trust, and ethics. It's a bit shocking.
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It was AuthorHouse. To the tune of $200,000. August of 2006.
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A woman said to write like a man.
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I dug this image up just now. Read the quotes from the news article below.
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