PA author gets fired from job because of book

[Susan Gable]

I have to run out the door, but I wanted to post this before I did. Here's an article about a librarian who lost her job at a small town library because her "fictional" account of life at small town library wasn't ficitonal enough.

Her publisher?

Why, PA.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72228

Be back later. If this already had a thread, Mods, I apologize!

Susan G.

[cdoctor13]

Libraries are bastions are free speech unless you slander someone and:

"The publisher, Publish America, is a grassroots group that publishes "people who are unknown, without charging the person thousands of dollars some self publishers charge," she said.

WTF?

[Queen of Swords]

"The publisher, Publish America, is a grassroots group that publishes "people who are unknown

And after it prints their books, they're still unknown unless they get into legal trouble. Great publicity.

[Marie Pacha]

Here's the link to the author's hometown newspaper with the original story:

http://www.ludingtondailynews.com/ne...story_id=41013

And this is what one reader posted on that same site on Aug. 11:

"Have any of you even read this book? I was able to pick out every character in this book. Her identity became known because she sent letters to everyone she knew saying she wrote the book..."

Aside from any issues the individuals she may have used as models for her characters might have; this is now a public issue in that community and will continue to receive a great deal of attention because she is appealing her termination.

[Stacia Kane]

"The publisher, Publish America, is a grassroots group that publishes "people who are unknown, without charging the person thousands of dollars some self publishers charge," she said.

In other words, she knows it's self-publishing.

I love that in the article she can't figure out how people knew it was her because she used a pen name, when the pen name is her maiden name, her father (who of course bears that name) is something of a local celebrity, and she says she picked it so some people would know who she was and that PA sent out letters to her friends and acquaintances. And they used a picture of the library where she works on the cover. Clever!

This isn't a free speech issue; the woman has committed a potentially libelous act. Good luck getting legal backup from your printer.

[ResearchGuy]

Originally Posted by DecemberQuinn

. . .
This isn't a free speech issue; the woman has committed a potentially libelous act. . . .

Those whose interest is piqued by this thread might want to read Insult to Injury: Libel, Slander, and Invasions of Privacy, by William K. Jones (University Press of Colorado, 2003). It is a scholarly book, but written for serious general readers. Good book for writers.

--Ken

[benbradley]

Originally Posted by DecemberQuinn

In other words, she knows it's self-publishing.

I love that in the article she can't figure out how people knew it was her because she used a pen name, when the pen name is her maiden name, her father (who of course bears that name) is something of a local celebrity, and she says she picked it so some people would know who she was and that PA sent out letters to her friends and acquaintances. And they used a picture of the library where she works on the cover. Clever!

So that's another way PA works - they solicit names and addresses of friends and acquaintances from the author, and send them blurbs about the book. Is that part of the package, or an "extra" the author has to pay for?

Originally Posted by Pagey's_Girl

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from responsibility for what you say. If you're going to claim someone is a sex offender (as she apparently did in her book; claiming sex offenders were using the computers in the library) you'd better be able to back that up.

And aren't many convicted sex offendors prohibited from using computers and the Internet? I'd think she should have called police rather than mentioning it in her novel book.

[ResearchGuy]

Originally Posted by benbradley

. . .
And aren't many convicted sex offenders prohibited from using computers and the Internet? I'd think she should have called police rather than mentioning it in her novel book.

Libraries are not likely to require (or be allowed to require) background checks, and in any event insist on privacy rights (to the maximum extent that federal intrusiveness allows).

--Ken

[benbradley]

Originally Posted by ResearchGuy

Libraries are not likely to require (or be allowed to require) background checks, and in any event insist on privacy rights (to the maximum extent that federal intrusiveness allows).

--Ken

Fron the apparent context, the claim of a sex offendor using the computer wasn't the result of a background check or anything more than the librarian/author recognizing the person and it being a small town where so many people just naturally know others' business.

Perhaps that wouldn't be a problem for her if she hadn't said anything, but she babbled about it in her book. If this is an identifiable person, I'd think she'd be in some kind of trouble whether he/she really is a known sex offendor (she could be in trouble for not promptly reporting him) or not (he can sue for libel).

Regardless, she may have a lot more problems than losing her job. Perhaps one defense she could use for libel would be that being published with PA "isn't really being published."

[Fillanzea]

This is not a free speech issue. This is an issue of YOU DO NOT BREACH YOUR PATRONS' CONFIDENTIALITY. The ALA is absolutely crystal clear on that. If the library director is correct that her descriptions are detailed enough and not very fictionalized, then she absolutely should have been fired.

In a lot of places, it is pretty hard to get fired from a library job. But this would do it.

...I do find it hilarious that she defends herself by saying that hardly anybody would ever have known about the book, because while it's true, it's not what most people want for their novels!

[Stew21]

I like how she says that she couldn't come up with the characters on her own.

[Pagey's_Girl]

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from responsibility for what you say. If you're going to claim someone is a sex offender (as she apparently did in her book; claiming sex offenders were using the computers in the library) you'd better be able to back that up.

[Sheryl Nantus]

seriously, how did she NOT think that anyone would find out and be upset?

sell the house and get out of town...

[endless rewrite]

I found this whole story hugely amusing. Thanks for posting.

[stormie]

Thank you, Susan, for the morning laugh. Geez. Where did that lady get her BS or MS in library science?

[Susan Gable]

Originally Posted by stormie

Thank you, Susan, for the morning laugh. Geez. Where did that lady get her BS or MS in library science?

A cracker jacks box??

Here's the other thing. She's obviously a librarian who doesn't know how to do RESEARCH. A little research would have both informed her that people who write "novels" based on real people that are recognizable will get themselves into big trouble, AND that PA is not <ahem> the best option for publishing out there. A little research would have taught her how to submit to the big publishers -- the ones who publish MOST of the books on the shelves in her libraray.

<sigh>

Susan G.

[Christine N.]

No, not freedom of speech. And wasn't iUniverse or Xlibris sued because of a similar book? The publisher was also held liable for the ...uh...libel in the book they produced.

Hmm...

[Pagey's_Girl]

Originally Posted by Christine N.

No, not freedom of speech. And wasn't iUniverse or Xlibris sued because of a similar book? The publisher was also held liable for the ...uh...libel in the book they produced.

Hmm...

It was something to do with, I believe, a husband writing a nasty tell-all about his ex-wife, if I remember correctly. She was a romance writer.

[Birol]

Originally Posted by stormie

Thank you, Susan, for the morning laugh. Geez. Where did that lady get her BS or MS in library science?

If you're talking about a true small town, the library may not have required one.

[AnneMarble]

Originally Posted by Pagey's_Girl

It was something to do with, I believe, a husband writing a nasty tell-all about his ex-wife, if I remember correctly. She was a romance writer.

Rebecca Brandewyne. He claimed all sorts of nasties about her, including plagiarism. No real publisher would have touched it because he couldn't back anything up.

[PVish]

Luddington Talks about the book here.

The Library Diaries just might be PA's first big seller. If readers can get the book.

[Bo Sullivan]

I feel sorry for the people in that small town who are able to identify themselves from what is written. If I was one of those people and what the author had written was not true, I would sue her. I wonder why she wrote negative things about people, when there must have been so many positive things she could have said about the community in which she lives. Then the author might have excited positive media interest which is much more worthwhile.

Barbara

[JulieB]

Originally Posted by PVish

Luddington Talks about the book here.

The Library Diaries just might be PA's first big seller. If readers can get the book.

Interesting conversation there. Most folks are completely behind the author. Be interesting to see which way the conversation goes when people start getting hold of copies of the book.

[Stacia Kane]

Originally Posted by Pagey's_Girl

It was something to do with, I believe, a husband writing a nasty tell-all about his ex-wife, if I remember correctly. She was a romance writer.

Rebecca Brandewyne (sp?).

[James D. Macdonald]

Originally Posted by Christine N.

No, not freedom of speech. And wasn't iUniverse or Xlibris sued because of a similar book? The publisher was also held liable for the ...uh...libel in the book they produced.

Hmm...

It was AuthorHouse. To the tune of $200,000. August of 2006.