Time to change agents?

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My first post here, though I am a published author, albeit one at something of a career crossroads. Here's my story:

I signed with my agent a few years ago, and she sold my first book (actually a two-book mass-market paperback deal) in three weeks to a recognized publisher. She was experienced, knowledgeable, provided good editorial input, and so on. I couldn't have been happier--then we got a second two-book deal for the same series. So far, so good.

But the market for my genre seems to have tanked at about that time, and I ran into some serious health and personal problems. My books did not sell well. When I submitted proposals for nine more novels, the publisher rejected them all and cut me loose, not offering me a new contract after the four books.

I essentially thought my fiction career was finished. I didn't write fiction for three years. But recently, I began again and completed a new novel this year--completely new characters and concept. When I took it to my agent, she was somewhat slow in responding to me--understandable, considering I was not a "currently producing" client. After three months, many e-mails and phone calls not being returned, I was ready to drop her, to start fresh. I thought it might be good for both of us.

I composed the "let's go our separate ways" e-mail and sent it. She called me the next day, told me she thought it was the best writing I'd ever done, that the market for this type of novel had picked up, and asking for a "second chance." Being a generally non-confrontational person, I was relieved and happy to stick with her.

From that point forward, however, I have had to initiate all contacts with her. She had no editorial suggestions for this manuscript. She said submissions would start right after Labor Day, and in mid-September nothing had happened. In late October, after several e-mails and phone calls, she said she'd sent it to three editors, "was still contacting people" and was "sorry to be out of touch," without explanation.

Upon doing some further investigation, it seems she has sold very few titles in the last couple of years. Her website is out of date, and she just doesn't seem to have her heart in it anymore. I have many new ideas for restarting my career and moving forward, however. (The economy not withstanding!)

Here's the question--am I being too impatient at this point? I like and respect this agent on a personal level, and she was the first person in publishing to give me a shot. But I don't know if she is doing all she could from a career standpoint right now. Too impatient? Or should I look at seriously making a change? I've had to drag any news of the submission process out of her for this new project.

Any and all perspectives appreciated.
 

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From what you've said, you've answered all your own questions. An agent who is noncommunicative, has not provided your work with the best possible exposure, and who is apparently on her own downward cycle, while you're trying to get back into the game again?

Doesn't sound like a great marriage to me.
 

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I changed agents this year, my agent was legit and I was really very fond of her but she had too many clients and seemed to be snowed under with work and I wanted somebody more in the thick of it ie London based. I had been thinking of leaving for a long time but had not wanted to make the move out a sense of loyalty. When I did the dastardly deed I felt awful but she was professional, courteous and wished me well, even sending on details of previous work/contracts to my new agent. I wish I had done it at least two years ago. Follow your gut instinct and take the plunge. It's a business and a professional agent will understand this. Agents lose clients all the time and they drop clients all the time. You have to make the right choice for your career.
 

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I'm glad you asked this question. I am having a similar experience with my own agent (except for the fact that I have not yet been published). I have just this very day started querying new agents.

Sorry, but if an agent is not actively pushing your work, then what is she doing for you?
 
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The non-communicative aspect of it really frustrates me. I don't expect her to drop everything every time I write or call, but I have a reasonable expectation for a response to my concerns, especially as an established client who, even though I haven't sold anything recently, does have a history with the agent.

I don't relish the process of parting ways, but can do it professionally if it comes to that.
 

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Since the agent isn't named, and it's a situational question rather than an inquiry about reputation or background, I've moved this here from Bewares & Background Check.

- Victoria
 

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The non-communicative aspect of it really frustrates me. I don't expect her to drop everything every time I write or call, but I have a reasonable expectation for a response to my concerns, especially as an established client who, even though I haven't sold anything recently, does have a history with the agent.

I don't relish the process of parting ways, but can do it professionally if it comes to that.
I agree that you've answered your own question. You're not comfortable with the situation, and if you've described it accurately, you have every right to not be comfortable.

As an example of what one should reasonably expect, my own agent has always been available, from before I was published to the current day. Months can pass without my talking to her, but if I have a question, she has an answer -- or if not, she finds out and gets back to me. She'll read anything I send to her and give me input -- not right away, if she's busy, but always in a reasonable length of time. I have complete trust in her, and that's really the bottom line.

Someone who is in the position of never having published and who feels very unsure if they will ever find another agent is in a more difficult spot. One tends to forgive a lot in an agent if the option is no agent at all. But if you have options, that's different.

I would definitely put some feelers out, at least.
 

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I agree with everything already said. As important as anything else is the apparent fact that you have lost confidence in your agent--for good reasons.
 

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I don't know...you say you have to initiate all communication with her, not that she refuses to reply to you. As long as she does reply when you contat her, I would not call that uncommunicative. Also, agents are notoriously lousy at making sure their websites are updated. And this is a sh**ty sh**ty market in which to try to sell fiction, so only getting three editors to take a look at it isn't necessarily a sign she isn't trying or doesn't have the contacts.

I guess I'd want to know what she has sold in the past year. I'd want to know how much she has sold that is like the books you are trying to get her to sell. That's what I'd base my decision on.
 

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Good points all.

This agent doesn't ignore me completely, I should point out. But I'll give you an example of the communication this year: After the date when she said the submissions were going to go out, I heard nothing from her for three weeks. I dropped a short "checking in" e-mail. No reply for a week. I dropped another e-mail then, just asking for an update as to whom the first round of submissions were. No reply. A week later, I called and left a message on her voice mail. I did not get a call back, but an e-mail (after three more days) that began with "sorry to be out of touch" and just mentioned that we'd had no feedback yet and she wanted to wait on feedback before proceeding further. (No specifics about where the work had been submitted.) When I responded to this e-mail, again pointedly asking where the submissions were, she did respond the next day with the names. Should it have taken a month to get that information?

I did my own research on Publishers Marketplace, to see what sorts of things she has been selling during the period when I wasn't producing new work. Not much, truthfully--I found less than ten sales in the past two years, and none in my genre.

I guess I am sort of answering my own question here. But I appreciate the input from others, both published and pre-published, agented and pre-agented! Thanks.
 

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It's REALLY hard to make the initial move and cut ties, but once you do, you feel relieved. At least, I did!

With my first agent, I tried sticking it out in the hopes that the relationship could improve once we'd discussed initial problems. Didn't happen. If you're not feeling it, confront your agent about his/her enthusiasm. Admit that you're not happy. Maybe he/she doesn't realize it. Maybe that's just the way he/she operates. Either way, it'll help you make up your mind.

Good luck with whatever you decide! (Though it mostly sounds like you just want confirmation at this point, heh).
 

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For me, it was like any unhealthy relationship. I couldn't see how bad it was until I got out of it and got in a healthy one. I didnt want to be without an agent again, but I had to part ways with the first and set out again in order to find one that I fit better & more naturally with. Changing agents was one of the best decisions I ever made.
 

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My first post here, though I am a published author, albeit one at something of a career crossroads. Here's my story:

I signed with my agent a few years ago, and she sold my first book (actually a two-book mass-market paperback deal) in three weeks to a recognized publisher. She was experienced, knowledgeable, provided good editorial input, and so on. I couldn't have been happier--then we got a second two-book deal for the same series. So far, so good.

But the market for my genre seems to have tanked at about that time, and I ran into some serious health and personal problems. My books did not sell well. When I submitted proposals for nine more novels, the publisher rejected them all and cut me loose, not offering me a new contract after the four books.

I essentially thought my fiction career was finished. I didn't write fiction for three years. But recently, I began again and completed a new novel this year--completely new characters and concept. When I took it to my agent, she was somewhat slow in responding to me--understandable, considering I was not a "currently producing" client. After three months, many e-mails and phone calls not being returned, I was ready to drop her, to start fresh. I thought it might be good for both of us.

I composed the "let's go our separate ways" e-mail and sent it. She called me the next day, told me she thought it was the best writing I'd ever done, that the market for this type of novel had picked up, and asking for a "second chance." Being a generally non-confrontational person, I was relieved and happy to stick with her.

From that point forward, however, I have had to initiate all contacts with her. She had no editorial suggestions for this manuscript. She said submissions would start right after Labor Day, and in mid-September nothing had happened. In late October, after several e-mails and phone calls, she said she'd sent it to three editors, "was still contacting people" and was "sorry to be out of touch," without explanation.

Upon doing some further investigation, it seems she has sold very few titles in the last couple of years. Her website is out of date, and she just doesn't seem to have her heart in it anymore. I have many new ideas for restarting my career and moving forward, however. (The economy not withstanding!)

Here's the question--am I being too impatient at this point? I like and respect this agent on a personal level, and she was the first person in publishing to give me a shot. But I don't know if she is doing all she could from a career standpoint right now. Too impatient? Or should I look at seriously making a change? I've had to drag any news of the submission process out of her for this new project.

Any and all perspectives appreciated.

Hi there,
This sounds exactly like my agent. Big name in the industry, very well respected, but I think slowing down to the point of retirement. I regret going with her, actually, in light of the change in the industry. I think you'd be well advised to find a new agent (but experienced and well known in the biz) who is ready to work hard to get your new fiction published, if you can. It's a terrible market out there now, especially for fiction.
 

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What favor would you be doing this agent by staying with her? She's not selling your work, so having you on her client list isn't making her any money or getting her any prestige.

Obviously, you don't want to trash-talk her to the new agents you'll be approaching (which is never a good idea: the old "creative differences" or "taking my career in a new direction" is always the tack you want to take, no matter what). But given that you're not going to do that, because you're a good egg, what on earth will she lose by your moving on?
 

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Thanks for all the perspectives, everyone. I have made the decision to end my relationship with this agent, and have sent the e-mail to her.

I kept it short and businesslike--"our professional relationship is not beneficial to my career at this time" and "I believe we would both be best served by going in different directions." etc. etc. I also made sure to thank her for the years of association we enjoyed, and made it clear that it was a business decision.

Is there a consensus as to how long I wait before beginning to query new agents? Do I have to wait the requisite 60 days (after all, there are supposedly three submissions currently active)? Or is it ethical to begin querying now, as long as I let any agent who shows interest in representing me that the work has been submitted to X, Y & Z editors by my prior agent?

I really do think I'd already made my decision before posting here, in consultation with others whom I trust, but I am grateful for your input.
 

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Do you have a contract with your agent? If so, it should specify how much notice you must give to her to clean up any outstanding issues. If it's a handshake, giving her 30 days is fairly standard, I think.
 

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The deed is done. (Ironically--or not--my now-former agent responded to this e-mail more quickly than any correspondence in three years.) She was courteous, understanding and professional. She'll send me a status/submission summary within 60 days to tie up any loose ends.

Relatively painless. And now...I start again. A little nervous, but also hopeful of what is to come.
 

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No agent is better than a sub-par agent, IMO. Agents should be enthuiastic and communicative. You wouldn't send an email to your coworker about work and expect him to get back to you in a few weeks or whenever he felt like it, right?