Teens Writing for Teens

[Metaphor]

Originally Posted by Rachel

We teens are more mature than the adults... proven once again.

EXACTLY!

I don't so how people don't get that, lol.

Now I really am gone.

[Rachel]

Alexander Rybak.

[navaa]

Originally Posted by Metaphor

I thought you meant AGED 7 for a moment there. Whew.

I thought the same thing... until you cleared it up.

[Horserider]

Did you know that a clone is (scientifically speaking) no different from a natural identical twin?

I disagree. An identical twin is conceived naturally at the same time as it's twin from one egg that splits or two eggs that were released at the same time. A clone does not happen naturally and is no more than a copy of the original.

They say clones don't live as long too and they aren't as healthy.

[Rachel]

TIO.

Where flame wars go to die.

Okay, my goal? 100 posts here a day. Realistic, no. Am I going to try damn hard to make it happen, though!? Probably also no.

Tilt, my song that envelops the feeling and message of my entire book, even the entire series (the Murder Pet series, that is) is:
Sophomore Slump or Comeback of the Year by Fall Out Boy.
You people need to understand how fully perfect this song is for representing my book.
It is just so . . . perfect. Meaningful. Perfect again. Here are the lyrics, though if you haven't read MP you might not appreciate how PERFECT it is. Particularly the bolded parts.

Are we growing up or just going down?
It's just a matter of time until we're all found out
Take our tears, put them on ice
Cause I swear I'd burn this city down to show you the light

We're the therapists pumping through your speakers
Delivering just what you need
We're well read and poised
We're the best boys
We're the chemists who've found the formula
To make your heart swell and burst
No matter what they say, don't believe a word

Cause I'll keep singing this lie if you'll keep believing it
I'll keep singing this lie
I'll keep singing this lie

Are we growing up or just going down?
It's just a matter of time until we're all found out
Take our tears, put them on ice
Cause I swear I'd burn this city down to show you the light

We travel like gypsies
Only with worse luck and far less gold
We're the kids you used to love
But then we grew old
We're the lifers here till the bitter end
Condemned from the start
Ashamed of the way
The songs and the words own the beating of our hearts

Cause I'll keep singing this lie
I'll keep singing this lie

Are we growing up or just going down?
It's just a matter of time until we're all found out
take our tears, put them on ice
Cause I swear I'd burn this city down to show you the light
There's a drug in the thermostat to warm the room up
And there's another around to help us bend your trust
I've got a sunset in my veins
And I need to take a pill to make this town feel okay

The best part of "Believe" is the "Lie",
I hope you sing along and you steal a line
I need to keep you like this in my mind
So give in or just give up
[x2]

Are we growing up or just going down?

Are we growing up or just going down?
It's just a matter of time until we're all found out
Take our tears, put them on ice
Cause I swear I'd burn this city down to show you the light

Why, yes, I am taking up excessive post-room in order to progress the thread further. *shifty look* don't tell anyone!

[dragonkid]

Originally Posted by Horserider

I disagree. An identical twin is conceived naturally at the same time as it's twin from one egg that splits or two eggs that were released at the same time. A clone does not happen naturally and is no more than a copy of the original.

They say clones don't live as long too and they aren't as healthy.

(Takes a deep breath).

You can disagree about whether or not we should have clones, HR, but I feel obligated to straighten out the science here. Have you seen the pictures of cloned puppies? Often they don’t look exactly like the original. That’s because genes don’t determine everything about us. We also have epigentics (whether or not a certain gene is turned on or off) and environmental factors like what our mother’s womb is like and how much pollution is in the air when we are conceived that contribute just as much. That’s why a clone could never be an exact copy of the original. Identical twins are identical because they have the same DNA. A clone is a new organism with the same DNA as the original. The only difference is the timing in when they are born.

The reason clones don’t live as long as non-clones is because they haven’t perfected the cloning and incubation techniques yet (it’s hypothesized – it could also have something to do with shortened telomeres, but there’s no evidence for that). Essentially, the DNA gets damaged in transit. As they improve cloning techniques, the average lifespan and health of clones will most likely increase.

[Rachel]

Okay, guys. I need to go now. *yawns*

Hopefully I've left this thread with no one mad at me.

[lm728]

Originally Posted by Ciera_

Okay, my goal? 100 posts here a day. Realistic, no. Am I going to try damn hard to make it happen, though!? Probably also no.

Tilt, my song that envelops the feeling and message of my entire book, even the entire series (the Murder Pet series, that is) is:
Sophomore Slump or Comeback of the Year by Fall Out Boy.
You people need to understand how fully perfect this song is for representing my book.
It is just so . . . perfect. Meaningful. Perfect again. Here are the lyrics, though if you haven't read MP you might not appreciate how PERFECT it is. Particularly the bolded parts.

Why, yes, I am taking up excessive post-room in order to progress the thread further. *shifty look* don't tell anyone!

kk got it.

[navaa]

We love you Red!

[Horserider]

Originally Posted by dragonkid

(Takes a deep breath).

You can disagree about whether or not we should have clones, HR, but I feel obligated to straighten out the science here. Have you seen the pictures of cloned puppies? Often they don’t look exactly like the original. That’s because genes don’t determine everything about us. We also have epigentics (whether or not a certain gene is turned on or off) and environmental factors like what our mother’s womb is like and how much pollution is in the air when we are conceived that contribute just as much. That’s why a clone could never be an exact copy of the original. Identical twins are identical because they have the same DNA. A clone is a new organism with the same DNA as the original. The only difference is the timing in when they are born.

The reason clones don’t live as long as non-clones is because they haven’t perfected the cloning and incubation techniques yet (it’s hypothesized – it could also have something to do with shortened telomeres, but there’s no evidence for that). Essentially, the DNA gets damaged in transit. As they improve cloning techniques, the average lifespan and health of clones will most likely increase.

Hmm interesting I just want to say one more thing because I always have to say this during a cloning debate. If the clones aren't exact clones of the original, then what is the point? There are millions of unwanted animals all over the world that need homes and scientists are running around creating more just because they can?

Okay, that's all I wanted to say

[Conman]

Aw man I missed page 1000.

Of course we're not, Red!
We're not like those silly adults. This is neverneverland! Except, with neither Michael Jackson nor Nickleback. Was it Nickleback who wrote that 'Off to Never Never Land' song? Think it might be. Anyhoo, no Chad Kreuger here.

1001 is better. It's a whatchemecallit. Spelled the same backwards as forwards. AND UPSIDE DOWN! Magic.
Um, cloning animals may be essentially useless, but furthering scientific knowledge and capabilities through research is NEVER useless. And what they're doing with pig hearts or whatever, that's definitely not useless. Stem cell research isn't useless. Immoral, you could argue, but not useless. It's like people who criticize the Space Programs, call them wasteful. Progression is never useless. Unwise? Arguable. Scary? Maybe. But never useless. IMO.

[Horserider]

The space programs are wasteful. But I suppose in a hundred years if mankind has completely trashed Earth then we can always move to the moon. Or Mars.

[peachiemkey]

I MISSED... I MISSED IT?

-throws a fit-

Goddarn you guys. I'm off being all good and finishing my research paper and you skip past 1000.

Oh well. My research paper is DONE. SUCK IT. haha

I'm (today, at least) making it my personal duty to spam this thread! Ha. Somehow, this relates to the topic of reproduction and playing God.
"Don't waste the sperm!" seems akin to posting every thought that comes into my head and making as many posts as possible. Are you guys feeling an underlying connection, there?
*spawns little spambabies to go forth and prosper, filling thread* *cackles* *isn't playing God, really!* *even when I get out the post-cloning device (copy + later paste)* *and even when I way overuse and abuse asterisks like this*

[navaa]

I personally support stem cell research. If only because my dad has diabetes and it could cure him.
But, I am scared we're going to create zombies or something like it lol.

[dragonkid]

Originally Posted by Horserider

Hmm interesting I just want to say one more thing because I always have to say this during a cloning debate. If the clones aren't exact clones of the original, then what is the point? There are millions of unwanted animals all over the world that need homes and scientists are running around creating more just because they can?

Okay, that's all I wanted to say

Okay, one more post because you asked for it (and it's a good question).

There’s not really much point in cloning animals right now – they are still working on the basic technology. The idea is that eventually they would be able to manipulate the DNA of cloned animals so that they would have desirable features, and then create large numbers of animals with those features (it wouldn't matter if some other things were different). Some possible examples are cows that release less methane or even the infamous pigs with human hearts (though not technically human - just closer to human cells) to create more potential donor organs. They are already doing it to an extent with plants (think of crops that are less susceptible for insects – a good thing all around because they cost less to grow and farmers don’t have to use as many harmful pesticides). Right now there are no guarantees that it will work as well in more complex organisms – but we will never know if we don’t try.

[Horserider]

Originally Posted by navaa

I personally support stem cell research. If only because my dad has diabetes and it could cure him.
But, I am scared we're going to create zombies or something like it lol.

I don't have a problem with stem cell research. It already helps a lot of horses.

[lm728]

GUESS WHAT?
(no i did not land a book deal or an agent)

I wrote a letter of complaint about a sub to my Science teacher (she's basically the one in charge), gave it to her beginning of 6th period Friday. After school, she called me over, and asked if I wrote the letter myself.
I said yes.
She said I'm a great writer.
And she hugged me.
I'm still getting those compliment tingles in my stomach. Will post the letter below.

[Horserider]

That's nice tilt (well the great writer thing not the bad sub)

HR, do you like seatbelts? D'you think baby food is a good thing? The development of instant food, things like kool-aid? Satellite TV? Google Earth, GPS? Ear Thermometers? Fire fighters? Vision screening tests? MRIs? Smoke Detectors? Cordless tools? Thermal gloves, ski boots? Shock absorbing helmets? Joystick controllers?
I'll stop there. But the space program led to the development of a heck of a lot of stuff that we may not have today otherwise. Not to mention human curiosity. We have to know what's out there, we're an inquisitive bunch.

That said, the programs can be pretty damn wasteful, too. That famous anti-gravity pen, for one. But they've definitely done a lot of good for us here on Earth, too.

[Horserider]

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. No Google Earth is kinda creepy. Never used an ear thermometer. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'd like a pair of thermal gloves. I suppose. Never had a joystick controller.

[lm728]

Here it is (parts of it edited out for privacy):

Dear Sir/Madam:

I am writing to file a complaint against Mr. L----, a substitute teacher for Mrs. N-------'s English class on May 14th, 2009.
At approximately 3:25 pm on Thursday, May 14th, he made a racial slur against students of Oriental heritage.
S.S. and I (tilt190) were the last two students to file out of the room--the bell for the end of 5th period had just rung. As we passed, we distinctly heard him say, "Ching chongs."
Let it be known that S.S. and I had not offended him in any way. We had not been yelling across the room. We had not been out of our seats. Or caused disruption in the class.
The only possible crime we had commited was to be born of Asian heritage. This statement was rude and upsetting. It may have been his twisted sense of humor, but it's not funny if you're cracking a joke at someone else's expense.
According to the first colored president of the United States, this is a time for change. When color codes are broken. It's the time when teachers serve as open-minded, well-educated, inspiring ROLE MODELS for children--not just white children or black children, but for all of them.

Mr. L---- does not fit that description.

Sincerely,
Tilt


Ugh, it doesn't seem that awesome typed up. Whipped it up in 5th period the 15th, in two minutes when the teacher wasn't looking, hah.
I didn't say "Barack Obama", but stressed his skin color. You know, in case the person reading it was a Republican. And I love how I got to insult the sub indirectly with the well-educated part.

I'm gonna get his sorry Dixiecrat ass fired.