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Old 05-07-2010, 09:49 PM   #301
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one very skinny, very pale junebug so far---s6
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Old 05-11-2010, 03:45 AM   #302
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Shakey, that's a shame about your community but I'm glad you got three plots.

Something is eating my bok choy and I don't know what. So far just nibbles, otherwise my crop would be dead by now.

The rest isn't growing much, aside from the recently fertilized basil, so I'm guessing I need to fertilize the rest. And write Miracle Grow a letter of complaint for two worthless bags of soil.

I'm thinking half a dose of fertilizer now, wait a few (2) weeks, and do another dose if it looks needed. The bag of soil claimed two months of fertilizer, but I'm not buying it. Anyone know if that's a good plan? I have something like 8-2-8 or w/e.

Otoh, they may need one more week to get their roots settled, so I'll hold out till the weekend until deciding.
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Old 05-11-2010, 03:47 AM   #303
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Probably june bugs. Really.
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Damn June bugs then. What repels them?
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Old 05-11-2010, 04:03 AM   #305
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Something is eating my bok choy and I don't know what. So far just nibbles, otherwise my crop would be dead by now.
Slugs or snails? At this point of the season they'd be very small, but they just loves them cabbage family plants, and also lettuce. Aside from moose, they are the worst garden pest I have here in Alaska.

Which brings up my favorite control mechanism for snails: shallow containers like jar lids, filled with beer. The beer attracts the buggers, and the crawl in and die. A good use for really cheap beer, the only appropriate use for Miller Lite.

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Old 05-11-2010, 04:05 AM   #306
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If you can't find the pests during the day, and the damage appears to be happening at night, then it probably is june bugs. There might be some chemicals you could use. There's a large toad population nearby, so I've periodically tried to lure some of them over by keeping small areas near the garden damp or flooded. I've heard people mention Sevin Dust, but I'm hesitant to use it due to the proximity of bee hives.

I've heard blacbird's suggestion several times for snails.

Doing well: tomato (all varieties), cucumber, garlic, thyme, mint, rosemary
So-so: oregano (purpling), zucchini, crookneck squash
Doing poorly: basil (yellowing), all chile plants (eaten by junebugs), cantaloupe, grape hyacinth (replanted)
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Old 05-11-2010, 04:08 AM   #307
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Definitely not moose

I'm not sure about night/day, but maybe night based on previous observations. I'll have to watch more. I won't do chemicals, so I shall pray it's not June bugs. They don't hate marigolds or something???

Small snails is a definite possibility as my yard has plenty around.

I will try the beer if I must, though I hate to kill snails. I'll have to actually buy some beer for the first (!) time in my life.
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Old 05-11-2010, 04:12 AM   #308
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Snails are really bad. I've been picking wild dewberries lately, and one out of every twenty (or so) has a snail feasting on it.
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Okay, so there are a few tiny pinholes on a few of the leaves and cotyledons. Most leaves are eaten from the edge in. But do pinholes = snails perhaps or who knows. I didn't happen to see any tiny snails, but ofc, they are around.

In related news, bok choy sprouts have a nice flavor. I'll just have to cull more and plant beets

SP, I didn't want to say it, but I'm so jealous.
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Old 05-11-2010, 09:26 AM   #310
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:43 PM   #311
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Okay, so far I have one drunk as a skunk fly.

It's been raining here so it's all I can do not to crush 10 snails just walking the 15 feet to my garden.

I did find a large snail trying to burrow in the soil of my bok choy yesterday. I was not amused but the offender lived. For now...
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:07 PM   #312
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Pest insects I'm happy to kill, but those stupid snails are just trying to make a living. I'm sure they break down the leaf litter or something useful. It's not like my yard has any delicacies outside my potted garden...

But if anything touches my basil I'll go nuclear on it.
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Pest insects I'm happy to kill, but those stupid snails are just trying to make a living. I'm sure they break down the leaf litter or something useful. It's not like my yard has any delicacies outside my potted garden...

But if anything touches my basil I'll go nuclear on it.
Well, I'm not coming near it. That's for sure.
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But if you did I'm sure you'd be distracted by the dishes full of beer
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:34 AM   #316
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I'm still plucking snails off berries every day. Hate those little fuckers. Hope they're drowning in your beer.

I'm going to have an outrageous quantity of cucumbers. Not sure what I was thinking planting two dozen of them.
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You can mail me some cucumbers and I'll mail you the remainder of my open can of beer

(This will be the second time I've ever bought beer ...or any alcohol I think)

And obviously you need to invite your snails for a drink or a salt water spa.
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mail your slugs and snails to me. western kansas is death to all things slimy. they parch up and shrivel like maggots under a heat lamp. and i'll mail you my grass hoppers and goatheads. --s6 ps--hell of a hailstorm last night. i couldn't bring myself to drive past my veggie garden this morning.
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:03 AM   #319
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That hail is deadly :\ I hoped all your plants survived.

*Puts a stamp on a snail and points it your way*

I had some basil with dinner and I have a little left over for tomorrow. Most of what I took was justttttt starting to bolt so it's a touch bitter but not bad. I'm afraid the one variety of basil isn't going to get over whatever shock it had before I bought it and will keep trying to seed. The purple basil is doing great and I took the tops just in case tonight. The 'regular' basil is somewhere between.

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Old 05-19-2010, 02:45 AM   #320
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Maybe this will help?

http://knol.google.com/k/how-to-buil...p-in-pictures#

It looks like how you're describing it though I could be wrong. This one suggests a multi-directional approach. Good luck to your poor bok-choy!
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Oh, that is good. I will have to add some yeast.

Also, the bok choy has only been mildly harassed in the last few days and we had a sunny day today so it grew a fair bit. The beets too.

It is sooooo relaxing to go out and see how my plants are coming along each day. Even when I find some slug damage or today when I found the idiot mowers had taken out my one sunflower despite clear marking with bricks and sticks. Idiots with hand mowers should be beaten.

But oh well, it was just a sad sunflower. The one that's 2 feet + is still going strong.
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I'm sorry to hear about your sunflower.

I am crazy jealous. I've wanted a garden for years but renting has rendered that impossible. I'm hoping next year I can be in a place of my own and finally have a garden. Not holding my breath!
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another hail storm possible tonight. i lost 4 pepper plants and the tomatoes are kind of beat up but my grandpa used to whack his tomatoes with a stick to make them more productive. anyone else ever hear of this? --s6 ps--he also used to drink a raw egg in a mug of beer with three dabs of horseradish mixed up in it, so i'm not saying the man was a paragon of wisdom, mind you.
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I'm sorry to hear about your sunflower.

I am crazy jealous. I've wanted a garden for years but renting has rendered that impossible. I'm hoping next year I can be in a place of my own and finally have a garden. Not holding my breath!
The poor sunflower wasn't quite getting enough sun and might not have produced much seeds (thus I'm not too too upset, but I did put time and a tiny bit of money into that plant)

I'm renting now and there's a tiny yard of clay and bermuda, with some leaf litter in the back (the robins love it). I get 6 hours of sun and it's not quite enough for some of my plants. I learned on this thread what else to plant in my little potted garden.

I leave mid June so I'm excited to get out of here

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another hail storm possible tonight. i lost 4 pepper plants and the tomatoes are kind of beat up but my grandpa used to whack his tomatoes with a stick to make them more productive. anyone else ever hear of this? --s6 ps--he also used to drink a raw egg in a mug of beer with three dabs of horseradish mixed up in it, so i'm not saying the man was a paragon of wisdom, mind you.
That sucks. If you had an established plant already making tomatoes, a little abuse might signal the plant to put more into seeds (fruit) and less into growth. Mind you, that might not work with a tomato. I know stressed basil and lettuce and such go to seed early and that's the last thing you want for those...

We are due for severe thunderstorms tomorrow and I'm wondering if I'll get home in time to put the plants on the 'deck'.
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I'm happy you are getting out of your rental. We're stuck in a 4plex. There's space to grow a garden, but the neighbors throw their junk sometimes right where that space is, the garbage truck turns around there and the landlords unload their lawnmower there. So unfortunately the space is not safe for a garden, there's even a rear axil from a truck there! I would have to do raised beds because it's such crappy soil and so rocky and nutrient deprived but I'd be okay with that as long as the space would be left alone, which it isn't. I really want out.
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