If this site is helpful to you,
Please consider a voluntary subscription to defray ongoing expenses.
Visit the AW chat room!
If you have an IRC program, just visit the #AbsoluteWrite channel on StarChat
Some helpful chat tips.
|
|||||||
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread | Display Modes |
|
|
#1 |
|
AW Addict
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 145
![]() |
[Agent] Mathew Ferguson
Has anyone heard anything on agent Mathew Ferguson? I've looked, but I can't find anything. He's not even listed in P & E.
http://www.mathewferguson.com.au/home.html According to his website he's worked at quite a few publishing houses, but I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not. |
|
|
|
|
#2 |
|
What happened to my LIFE?!
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,485
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Yes, it's good that he's worked at publishing houses.
__________________
When it comes to PA, the royalty check and the reality check arrive in the same envelope. Remember to be kind to writers who step in PA. They really don't know how bad it smells. When you're asked what's in your wallet, the answer should never be "PA's hands." The difference between PA and WLA? None. Both have the stench of dead and dying books emanating from their doorways. PublishAmerica, the "Lost Book Graveyard."
|
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
Would-Be Author
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 156
![]() |
He appears to be Australian, mate, from the e-mail address.
__________________
www.thebiglitowski.blogspot.com |
|
|
|
|
#4 |
|
AW Addict
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 145
![]() |
|
|
|
|
|
#5 |
|
Reely Grate Righter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1,637
![]() ![]() |
Wow! Just checked and I know him! This is the same Mathew Ferguson who was a member of YouWriteOn until last year. He gave a lot of great advice and help to people on that site and I bet he'll make a fantastic agent.
Good on you, Mat! Best of luck with it!
__________________
![]() Before you criticize anyone you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you're a mile away, and you've got their shoes. I blog here. WARNING: Under NO circumstances waste your time looking at my website. |
|
|
|
|
#6 |
|
Banned
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 170
![]() |
Are people allowed to reply on threads about themselves? :-)
You can google me and you'll find some of the books I've written and edited. The sales I've made have been for myself! Otherwise my experience comes from in-house work creating and pitching projects and then taking them through to publication. I started up paid agent work this year and haven't taken on any writers. I do represent two illustrators - Erin Hunting and Kelly Abbott. The illustration/licensing business is called On The Wall (www.onthewall.com.au). I do other stuff apart from being an agent. Some websites of mine: www.twosentencestories.com ; www.chaoticempire.com.au ; www.mybookshelfreview.com (got to update that one! eeep) ; www.twitter.com/mathewferguson cheers, Mat |
|
|
|
|
#7 | |
|
Banned
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 170
![]() |
Quote:
:-) cheers, Mat |
|
|
|
|
|
#8 | |
|
AW Addict
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 145
![]() |
Quote:
Thanks for joining to let us know a little about yourself. I'll be sure to check out those sites. Thanks again.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#9 |
|
Dancing between good and evil...
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: So. Cal
Posts: 335
![]() |
Love Mathew's sense of humor on his website. His personality really shines through in his tale of "The origin story". If you haven't read it yet- I'd highly suggest it.
On another note- if you get signed by him- can you take going to Australia to meet him off your taxes as a business expense? Just an idea...
__________________
'The Crescent'- coming 2010 My Blog/Website: www.JordanDeen.com My Twitter: @Jordan_Deen My Facebook: Jordan Deen Email: Jordan_Deen@yahoo.com There is only one guaranteed outcome when you write a novel: insanity. |
|
|
|
|
#10 | |
|
AW Addict
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 145
![]() |
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
#11 |
|
Dancing between good and evil...
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: So. Cal
Posts: 335
![]() |
Awww... come now, that HAS to be tax deductable? Right? I mean it's FOR business afterall and the love of the craft.
Am I laying it on thick? I don't think my taxman would go for that either. If Mathew's still in here- maybe he has some ideas on this? I'm sure he doesn't want everyone packing their bags and jetting 15 hours to his front door step.
__________________
'The Crescent'- coming 2010 My Blog/Website: www.JordanDeen.com My Twitter: @Jordan_Deen My Facebook: Jordan Deen Email: Jordan_Deen@yahoo.com There is only one guaranteed outcome when you write a novel: insanity. |
|
|
|
|
#12 | ||
|
AW Addict
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 145
![]() |
Quote:
![]() Quote:
Maybe if he's still around he let us know what his stand is on attachments.
|
||
|
|
|
|
#13 | |
|
I have a very useful cat
Absolute Sage
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Sheffield, UK
Posts: 1,447
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mathew, I wondered: is Chaotic Empire your blog?
I found a post on it in which you discuss the possibility of you publishing writers, after a fashion. You wrote, Quote:
I'd welcome your comments on this. (You might also like to correct the many typos on your agency website: I suspect a lot of them have appeared in the translation of text-to-website, but they don't give a good impression, and are particularly worrying bearing in mind that you state that you edit your clients' work. It would put me off, for sure.)
__________________
My blogs: How Publishing Really Works and The Self-Publishing Review. And considering how short a space I have on Twitter, I manage to say an awful lot. |
|
|
|
|
|
#14 |
|
Under a messy desk
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Under a very messy desk
Posts: 819
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Keeping in this same vein, I look at new agents with a very wary eye because I've seen too many hang out a shingle and call themselves an agent - and have very little background or contacts. Why should that matter to you? Because the chances of me reviewing your work just went downhill. And it's not just little fry trade publishers like me, but the big guys as well.
This business is all about contacts and experience. While I think Mathew has a lovely sense of humor and is a fine gent, I don't see anything on his website that says he has established relationships with editors or can even get the job done. Also, since he's so far away, where does he plan on focusing his sales? US? UK?
__________________
www.behlerpublications.com I blog ----------- The Writer's Essential Tackle Box : how the publishing world works and what we're really thinking A Different Shade of Blue: Foreword by Ann Rule East Fifth Bliss is being made into a movie |
|
|
|
|
#15 | |
|
I have a very useful cat
Absolute Sage
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Sheffield, UK
Posts: 1,447
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Quote:
Front page, fourth tab: "Services and rate" Front page, body copy: "Publisher" shouldn't be capitalised. Under the "Philosophy" tab, there are several instances where question-marks are used where apostrophes are required. There are plenty more, but as I said--it's not my job to correct those mistakes, it's his. And he hasn't. Which I find worrying considering he says that he edits the work of his clients.
__________________
My blogs: How Publishing Really Works and The Self-Publishing Review. And considering how short a space I have on Twitter, I manage to say an awful lot. |
|
|
|
|
|
#16 | |
|
Banned
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 170
![]() |
Quote:
I do understand the concerns of "are they really an agent or a front for a bullshit self-publishing company who will take my money". I've worked as a writer and editor for years now and I utterly despise those who take money for services they don't deliver. So to answer your question - the post was musing. I'm sure if you researched more you'll find posts from me talking about the stupidity of rude editors at publishing companies and the like. If I ever were to set up my own publishing company (which I have no doubt I could do, given my experience) then I would have to make a very clear distinction between me working as an agent and me working as a publisher. Thanks for pointing out those stupid question marks that have again appeared on my website. They are caused by Joomla, the website software. I've corrected these multiple times but due to some other deeper error, they appear again. I wouldn't work with someone who had such stupid errors on their site so you can imagine who foolish and frustrated I feel that they continue to appear. |
|
|
|
|
|
#17 | |
|
Banned
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 170
![]() |
Quote:
Are you a UK resident perhaps? Next time you step on a British Airways flight have a look at the book they hand out to the children - I wrote that. They've printed a million copies for distribution on every international flight BA makes. If you come to Australia and fly Qantas you'll also get a book for the children that I wrote. We're a bit smaller than the EU so that one is only 300,000 copies per year. You could do a bit of web-searching and you'll find my name as author and editor on quite a few books also. Apart from that, I'm not sure what else you would like to see. I haven't taken on any writers yet because I haven't found a submission that I like. Through On The Wall (an agency focussed on illustrators and licensed properties www.onthewall.com.au) I represent two illustrators, if that carries any weight at all. Most of the times I suppose it comes down to a conversation and how you feel about me from what you read on the website (and on my various websites, twitter, etc). As there is no formal training or accreditation process for agents, most of them are somewhat like me. Former editors who changed careers. Former freelance writers looking to expand their service offerings. The core of my decision to start agent work was based around two factors: 1) I've worked with a lot of agents and honestly, the job of being an agent isn't that difficult; 2) I was giving out free advice on contracts, who to contact, how to pitch, editing concept documents, referring work to writers, editors, illustrators and graphic designers, getting my freelance friends work ... and all for free. I referred a $10,000 job to a fellow writer and only later on realised that I should have charged a commission. As for being far away ... I'm a Melbourne writer who got his work on British Airways and Jet Airways (India). Is that a long enough reach? :-) cheers, Mat |
|
|
|
|
|
#18 | |
|
Dancing between good and evil...
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: So. Cal
Posts: 335
![]() |
Thank you so much for hanging out in Absolute Write and providing answers to questions! When I fly to Melbourne to visit your shop I'll make sure and ask for one of your booklets so you can autograph it for me! (I've decided to visit Australia and try to take it as a tax write off.) I'm sure Phil (my taxman) will love me in 2010 for that.
In all honesty though, does it matter that an agent is in another country/state/etc from you? Most work is done over the phone, fax, email or mail now. Quote:
__________________
'The Crescent'- coming 2010 My Blog/Website: www.JordanDeen.com My Twitter: @Jordan_Deen My Facebook: Jordan Deen Email: Jordan_Deen@yahoo.com There is only one guaranteed outcome when you write a novel: insanity. |
|
|
|
|
|
#19 | ||||
|
Under a messy desk
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Under a very messy desk
Posts: 819
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Quote:
In the case of a new agent, such as yourself, I look at their qualifications. For instance, most successful agents worked with other literary agencies and learned the business. They established relationships with editors from large and small houses. Merely having a list of represented authors carries zero weight because I know a number of ineffective agents who have large lists of authors. As you say, anyone can hang out their shingle and call themselves an agent, but it takes far more work than that to become a successful, respected agent. Since you're in Aussie, it might be a good idea to let authors know which country(ies) you plan on focusing. US? UK? Quote:
Quote:
You have to work very hard to establish relationships with editors, both large and small. You want to be able to pick up the phone and say, "Hey, Lynn, I have a great work that looks to be right up your alley." It's those friendly, casual relationships that get books sold in many cases. Then you have to have the product to back it up. An agent who consistently sends me garbage manuscripts is someone whose queries go to the bottom of my pile. Quote:
Please know that I'm not trying to attack you, but merely to bring out holes that I think are a concern. And hey, all this could be moot if you start making solid sales in about six months. That would mean that you do have established relationships with editors and that you're on your way.
__________________
www.behlerpublications.com I blog ----------- The Writer's Essential Tackle Box : how the publishing world works and what we're really thinking A Different Shade of Blue: Foreword by Ann Rule East Fifth Bliss is being made into a movie |
||||
|
|
|
|
#20 |
|
I have a very useful cat
Absolute Sage
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Sheffield, UK
Posts: 1,447
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Still Alive, the heading reads "Services and rate". I'm not sure I agree with you about the plural issue but even if I let that one go there's still a problem with inconsistent capitalisation there, which should be addressed.
Regarding the question-marks vs apostrophes issue, Mr Ferguson has already acknowledged that this is an ongoing problem which he's been struggling to fix so I'm not sure why you're berating me for mentioning it. It could be down to the browsers we're using: I'm on Internet Explorer 7, which might make a difference--what are you using? As for hair-splitting, that's what editors do. They notice picky little problems in a text and they fix them. If one of my books was going to be edited by someone who didn't pay attention to such details I'd not be happy at all. If Mr Ferguson is going to edit his clients' work then he needs to be able to be just as hair-splitting as I've been, otherwise he's not going to do them any favours at all.
__________________
My blogs: How Publishing Really Works and The Self-Publishing Review. And considering how short a space I have on Twitter, I manage to say an awful lot. |
|
|
|
|
#21 | |
|
Banned
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 170
![]() |
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
#22 | |
|
Banned
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 170
![]() |
Quote:
Let me ask you - what do you think sells books if not a sense of humour? :-) I'll move on from this to the question of just how hard being an agent actually is. You see, I've had this conversation quite a few times over the years and I've had it with quite a few agents too. I maintain that being an agent is not particularly difficult once you've mastered certain techniques in addition to having a decent sense of what will sell. To put it nicely ... agents who say they work 24/7 are liars. The agents who say you need to work very hard to establish relationships with editors are liars. Editors don't really want relationships with agents and that is the truth. Editors come and go and so do agents. It is one job position communicating with another job position for mutual benefit but it isn't like it used to be with editors holding their positions for 20 years. I know this sounds quite harsh and it is something the middlemen don't want you to hear but it is the truth. I've had similar conversations with people who will tell you that being a freelance writer is difficult too. It is not. If you can pick up the phone and sell yourself, it's quite easy. To sum up: don't put agents in ivory towers. Back to the agent job. Here is what happens: I find some amazing book I love. I ring a publishing company and they put me through to the editor. I tell them who I am and what I've got. They decide to meet me or not. Then I pitch the work to them. If they are out of state/country then they might have it sent to them and the pitching occurs over the phone. Does that sound difficult at all? It's phone calls and then driving in to have a coffee with an editor (who love getting out of the office). I suppose I could talk a bit more about why being an agent isn't that difficult but it is a common myth in publishing that it is a horribly hard job and striking down a myth can be near impossible. It is a job like any other: eight hours a day, five days a week and the hardest part is picking up that phone. As for proof of qualifications ... I once managed $10 million of books per year. I wrote contracts. I negotiated contracts. I made whopping amounts of money for the people who listened to me and those who didn't ... well, they didn't make money at all. But how could I prove any of this to anyone? I don't have a copy of the Incredibles licensing contract that I can show. I suppose at some point you may have to simply decide to trust me. Of course if you decide not to, then don't submit anything for consideration. I am a big fan of the easy casual relationship but we simply don't live in the economic conditions that make this possible. An editor who stays at a single job for more than about three years is a rarity. I know a lot of what I say when I talk about publishing can ruffle feathers. Although I've stepped into agent work, I don't have a high opinion of the profession as a whole. I think even less of those people who sell manuscript appraisals. I've worked as a freelance writer and editor since 2005 and I've met plenty of fakes, cheats, liars and charlatans. I once had an agent make me the lovely offer of him taking 40% of my earnings and he would graciously allow me the usage of his letterhead. Wow, use of letterhead for ONLY 40% of my earnings? What a deal that was. Hopefully this covers it all. :-) best, Mat |
|
|
|
|
|
#23 | |
|
Banned
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 170
![]() |
Quote:
Do people still use fax? Even paper post is on its way out. |
|
|
|
|
|
#24 |
|
Dancing between good and evil...
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: So. Cal
Posts: 335
![]() |
I can see where the time zone would cause some issues! Not sure how I'd feel about a call at 3:46am (the time stamp on your posted the below). Not sure my 4 year old would like that either.
![]() I work for the government- they haven't quiet caught up to scan/email yet. So, I'm quiet efficient with a fax machine. I even remember to push *9* most of the time. Again, thank you for staying and answering everyones questions. All too often we get one or two posts in reply and the agent/publisher stop responding.
__________________
'The Crescent'- coming 2010 My Blog/Website: www.JordanDeen.com My Twitter: @Jordan_Deen My Facebook: Jordan Deen Email: Jordan_Deen@yahoo.com There is only one guaranteed outcome when you write a novel: insanity. |
|
|
|
|
#25 | |||||||
|
Under a messy desk
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Under a very messy desk
Posts: 819
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
It's true that editors have come and gone, and agents have to establish new relationships. But this is all part of the business for the successful agent. To be clear, there are still many editors who have held their positions for many, many years, so it's a bit misleading to imply that the entire industry was gutted and it's now filled with newbie editors. Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
If you want to be taken seriously, then it's a good idea to have respect and pride for the line of work you've chosen. The agents I know and work with love their jobs - and it shows. Conversely, I've met agents who had your attitude, and it also showed. What I'm picking up from your posts is that you don't take agenting seriously - almost as if it's a lark for you. Personally, I think authors deserve better than this - agents who value their contribution to the publishing industry and who work long hours to ensure their success. You appear to be a bit wet behind the ears.
__________________
www.behlerpublications.com I blog ----------- The Writer's Essential Tackle Box : how the publishing world works and what we're really thinking A Different Shade of Blue: Foreword by Ann Rule East Fifth Bliss is being made into a movie Last edited by priceless1; 10-12-2009 at 01:33 AM. Reason: fixed my lousy analogy |
|||||||
|
|
![]() |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
| Display Modes | |
|
|