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|05-01-2010, 03:30 AM||#1|
New Fish; Learning About Thick Skin
Join Date: Apr 2010
For the uninitiated: where does YA stop and literary fiction start?
This is something I'm really curious about: where does Young Adult stop and literary fiction start? The YA market has exploded since I was a teenager. Back then what really made an impact on me were books like Bret Easton Ellis' "Less than Zero" and Dennis Cooper's "Closer." The characters in those novels were all 18 years-old or even younger, yet I don't think they would ever be considered YA. I suppose my question is: why?
YA seems to be becoming increasingly dark and "edgy" in terms of content. Is a book YA because the target audience is young people, or because it's ABOUT young people?
No matter how dark YA novels get, does there have to be something ultimately life-affirming about them for it to be published as YA? I don't necessarily mean a "moral" or lesson to be learned at the end, but some tone or quality that prevents them from being completely nihilistic.
These questions may sound naive but I'm genuinely interested. Most of what I write is short fiction about characters in the 17-22 year-old range, yet I've never really thought of what I write as targeting the YA market, maybe because of the novels I mentioned that influenced me.
Thanks for any input!
|05-01-2010, 03:59 AM||#2|
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Belmont,welcome to AW ! Take a look at the Stickys at the top of the forum. We have tons of content on this topic.
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|05-01-2010, 04:23 AM||#3|
Angel, demon, hero, villain
Join Date: Oct 2005
I think you're confusing some of your terms here. "Literary" fiction is really more of a genre. There's literary YA.
As Kidd said, there are many stickies and threads about YA vs. adult. Here's a few links. (these are in order by stickies then most replied to and are by no means a complete list)
Is my novel YA? What makes a novel YA?
What Constitutes YA Fiction
What Should You Remember When Writing YA?
Middle Grade, Young Adult, Adult: How do you categorize your novel?
young adult books with adult protagonist? (discusses why the protag age is important and also themes, voice, and tone)
Dumbing it down (Deals with "reading level" in YA fiction)
New Adult - determining target audience
Could my book be YA?
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YA or just read by YA
|05-01-2010, 04:02 PM||#4|
Tired and Disillusioned
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Here and there
Hi, BelmontHeir, and welcome to AW.
Martin Amis's The Rachel Papers is also a book that you usually find on the 'grown-up' and YA shelves.
Interestingly, there is a growning number of 'literary' authors who are writing for a YA audience, e.g. Jeanette Winterton (author of Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit among others) has written 2 or 3 literary fantasy novels for the YA audience (I believe it's because she was inspired by reading and writing for her god daughter). Joanne Harris has written a fantasy called Rune Marks and Nick Hornby (Booker Prize shortlisted author and Oscar nominated screen writer) wrote a YA called Slam.
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