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Old 11-03-2010, 05:53 PM   #26
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Well, that was random. How about we turn this into a chat thread instead? How's everyone else's NanoWriMo going?
It's getting there. I reached a little over 5k yesterday, but now today I'm just not feeling it. The motivation is lacking not just for nano, but for my freelance work as well. Maybe I'll be able to crank out a few thousand tonight once I've had something to eat ... possibly a nap.
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Old 11-03-2010, 05:59 PM   #27
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Today I wrote a blog about NaNoWriMo. It's something I do every year, though this is the first year I considered participating. http://gilesth.blogspot.com/2010/11/nanowrimo.html
All the stuff's been ported!

Beam me out of here, Scotty!

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Old 11-03-2010, 06:07 PM   #28
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I'm using NaNo to force me to finish a manuscript. I've never got to that stage before, and even if it's gibberish, it's a first draft I can edit to my heart's content next year. And I'm not a serious writer, I just do it as a hobby, but it's a stepping stone into the pressure serious writers do face in terms of time constraints.
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:48 PM   #29
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Why, SilverDragonPrince, are you so fired up about the cheaters? This "contest" helps writers to write, nothing more. We don't compete against each other.

Your bashing of all NaNoers is insulting and rude.
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If the rules are the same this time around as in the past, one can meet the word count and be counted even if one only copies and pastes a sentence a hundred times over...or more! I guess it's cool, for a lot of people, to enter a "contest" where gibberish is lauded. If they changed the rules, then Nanowrimo is great. <----Take note. I entertain easily!

In that case, forget the notice received earlier, and maybe look for Silver Dragon Prince to be there...
Silver, it's a contest in the sense that it's a challenge, a game. "Can you write a novel in 30 days?" -- "I don't know, let's find out!"

Since you're the only person who decides if you've "won" -- then the amount of prestige or importance you put on the award is entirely up to you as well. Most of the people I know would not consider cutting and pasting 50,000 of the same words as "winning," because 50,000 of the same words isn't really a novel. It's a list.

You get out what you put in. No one's forcing you to participate. No one's asking you to even like it.

But the rules of the board ARE that you respect your fellow writers, and that should include the writing games and activities they like to play.

If that's too difficult or stringent a request, maybe this isn't the right forum for you.
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Do what you all want to do with nano, I'm interested in writing.
So if by your reasoning people who do NaNo aren't interested in writing, I guess all those authors who did NaNo and subsequently published their novels (through commercial publishers, not self-publishing) weren't interested either.

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Then use your words. Your little animated cartoons are giving me a headache.

I haven't participated in NaNoWriMo. However, I did ScriptFrenzy (same idea, but scripts) and found that having a deadline -- and corresponding with others on how it was coming along -- got me producing words. Writing's a skill; as with any skill, you have to do it to learn how to do it. If you put out sheer gibberish or cut-and-paste to achieve the arbitrary wordcount, you've cheated yourself but not affected anyone else.

But if you're sincere, it's an opportunity to forget for a while about self-editing, second-guessing, and anything else that might be keeping you from putting words down. The 50,000 words you end up with might be a bit of a mess, but at least you've got something to work with now. And you've been spending hours a day constructing sentences, honing your skills at the nuts-and-bolts level. It can get you over the hump into a regular schedule of determined work. Sometimes just having a specific goal is enough.
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Huh. Interesting. An entertaining troll at least.

Someone said something on twitter earlier about how there seemed to be a backlash against Nanowrimo this year, and it was weird. I hadn't noticed until someone said something (I'm dense and oblivious sometimes, don't judge. ) but now I'm seeing it everywhere. Even Salon.com is getting in on it. It doesn't make sense to me, really. Oh well.
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If you're a shitty writer, you'll be shitty at speed, or slowly. At least if you write fast, you won't be clogging up my brainpan with your whining for long.

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I hadn't seen the one with the juggling cow before.

You get out of Nano what you want. For me it's aiming for 10K because I know 50K is out of my reach. But I like the atmosphere of Nano, and some of the forums there (when they load ). For someone else it can be the first draft of a novel that's publishable after a thorough editing.

For one of my friends it's just getting a bit silly to relieve the examn stress. Last year she wrote about a Butler Convention where one of the butlers turns up dead. The story had stampeding penguins, killer tomatoes, a knife juggling French chef with an accent, and a time traveling Cicero who corrected everyone's grammar until the tomatoes got him. It was hilarious. She had a lot of fun writing it and I enjoyed reading it, so what?


This year I have to deal with some very uncooperative characters. Yes, Rozenn and Doireann, I mean you in particular.

Rozenn, you WHAT? This idea is utterly crazy and mad.

It might even work.

(And yes, I got the idea right when I posted my little rant about the girls. I should probably thank our little troll for that, heh.)
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Oh goody, I'm glad someone asked. I was sitting here staring at a wiki article on a Australian football player, trying to figure out what he had to do with nano.

Your Daniel Cross sounds far more interesting.
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bah- at the OP not Daniel Cross.
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The first time I ever tried explaining NaNoWriMo to any of my high school students, I just couldn't get them to understand it. I tried telling them it's not a contest, it's a challenge, it's a chance to see if you can do it, and then afterwards maybe have something that you can turn into a publishable novel. Sadly, most of the kids just couldn't see the point in undertaking such a feat if there wasn't somebody waiting at the finish line dangling a prize for them.

I think the NaNoDoubters share that basic mindset.
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How sad, Bibbo. Perhaps when they mature they'll understand a personal challenge is greater than a "what do I get?" mentality.
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Man, I hope so. When I find one that I think has the spark somewhere in them, I always try to encourage it.
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I remember most of the complaints in 2003, the first year I participated, were along the lines of, "*~Writing~* is serious business and hard work and I worked my butt off/am working my butt off trying to get published, and these people are just playing around having fun."
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FUN!?

Not in my novel, thank you.

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bah- at the OP not Daniel Cross.
I love the word 'bah'. It's one of my favourites.
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The first time I ever tried explaining NaNoWriMo to any of my high school students, I just couldn't get them to understand it. I tried telling them it's not a contest, it's a challenge, it's a chance to see if you can do it, and then afterwards maybe have something that you can turn into a publishable novel. Sadly, most of the kids just couldn't see the point in undertaking such a feat if there wasn't somebody waiting at the finish line dangling a prize for them.

I think the NaNoDoubters share that basic mindset.
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How sad, Bibbo. Perhaps when they mature they'll understand a personal challenge is greater than a "what do I get?" mentality.
I love personal challenges. Okay, so I'm not doing NaNo this year, but I get it. It's a great feeling to take something crazy and conquer it.
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