Adults in YA

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I am writing a YA mystery from an omniscient point of view. Part of the theme is about fathers and their teenage sons, so I've got several of both in there.

The question is, in a YA book, can I still have the fathers drive the action or do the teenagers have to be the central focus?

With an omniscient narrator, what would make this book YA or not YA?
 

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I think that YA means that the relationships and dynamics you're discussing need to be seen through an adolescent viewpoint and not the more knowing lens of the adults.

The fathers and their actions can be central to the story, but the reflection, interpretation, and reaction to those actions should be from the teenage point of view.

Hope that makes sense. I think there's always room to play around and be creative with different formats and story telling techniques, but YA is a teen perspective and that needs to be the primary focus.
 

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I think that YA means that the relationships and dynamics you're discussing need to be seen through an adolescent viewpoint and not the more knowing lens of the adults.

This. And this again. :)

There's a lot of talk about age in YA, but I think that regardless of the age of the characters, secondary characters, etc., what makes it YA first and foremost is an adolescent POV.

Now, there are MGs and even some YAs with a omniscient narrator who is more than adult - ie, truly omniscient, like Death in The Book Thief. But I think the The Book Thief is more of an exception than a norm - and was not a debut novel. Markus Zusak had a strong following already, and the book had already been published in Australia (although there as an adult novel). Had Markus Zusak not been known as a YA powerhouse in the US, I'm not sure The Book Thief would have been published as a YA.

But I think, generally, for a book to work in the YA market, the viewpoint needs to be an adolescent one. So...it will be somewhat tricky if you allow the father characters to drive the action OR show too much from their perspective (for my personal view of YA, I'd try to stay entirely in the adolescents' POV - ie, any actions or beliefs of the fathers is seen by the reader through the eyes and mind of the teen characters).

There are fantastic ways to drive tension and dramatic action by allowing the beliefs and actions of the adult characters to be revealed to the reader at the same time they are revealed to the teen characters.

If the lens of the omniscient narrator strays away from an adolescent POV it can really blur the lines on whether it is a YA or an adult novel. So, I'll never say never, because in publishing sometimes never been done before becomes brilliant - but there are few adult POV characters in YA, and even fewer from debut novelists.


But here's my final thought - why does it have to be YA? Why not write the book that is calling to you, and then see what the most marketable genre is? I think sometimes we can limit ourselves by trying to box in our ideas before they've even bloomed.


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I've had a few YA novels published, but I'm hardly a star. This particular project has already been written as an adult comic mystery. But I'm wondering if I can make it work as YA. I know I can tell it first person from one of the teenagers points of view. I'm wondering if I can tell it omniscient.
 
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