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Old 08-24-2011, 01:21 AM   #76
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I've had people argue quite convincingly that we should have an over-18 policy for posting privileges. I usually remind 'em that we have a number of utterly delightful younger people who've posted here for years -- but then a TAR comes along, and I can see their point.

age restrictions in no way reflect on maturity and ability; they are arbitrary and unfair.

Let ME decide who gets banned.

On a side note, if banned, can he still see the thread? I have my doubts that he's really going to learn from any of it, because he seems determined not to, but it seems a shame if he can't read any more--some of the others' posts might have been very helpful.....if the OP's mindset ever changes
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No, no. Oh yes. This thread is a thing of beauty.I'm now aroused.Probably because you'r writing to their level, not ours.BURN.GOD DAMN IT BITCH YOU TOOK AWAY MY TOY BEFORE I EVEN GOT HERE.Hello gorgeous. I want to adopt you, but you make me feel like a dirty old woman.


late to the show, dirty old woman.

its like watching the elimination episodes of reality shows, but on TiVo :-(
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Mate! You missed all the fun!

Although.... it's probably good for the boy's sake. He wouldn't have survived.
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I blame Mac. Bloody feminazi jackbooty bi--

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Although.... it's probably good for the boy's sake. He wouldn't have survived.
That's very nearly what I was thinking.

Actually what I was thinking was 'If he thought those crits were harsh, there's going to be blood all over the ceiling if SP ever gets to him'

In a nice and friendly, admiring kind of way, natch.
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That's very nearly what I was thinking.

Actually what I was thinking was 'If he thought those crits were harsh, there's going to be blood all over the ceiling if SP ever gets to him'
He's going to have a very hard time if he ever gets to take a college level writing class.

A very hard time. You lot, even SP, are kinder than I or my colleagues would be.
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A very hard time. You lot, even SP, are kinder than I or my colleagues would be.
My writers' group is pretty damn harsh when they need to be. They've made people cry apparently. But it's done face to face, which I think helps enormously to gather tone etc.
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Someone who thinks AW is harsh would never be able to cope with a red-ink-covered manuscript from an editor and the question, "Why the hell did they buy this shit from me in the first place if it's that bad?"
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Well, to misquote an earlier post, maybe by then he will have found his big boy pants.
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Oh yeah, that was my reaction too when I received my first round of edits. It was so bad the editor marked up only one-third of the book and told me to fix the rest the same way. I think she ran out of time.
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It's STILL my first reaction to editorial notes. It doesn't last as long now (unless I'm on a bad one) but it's still there

Along with the first reaction to a crit: 'How very dare the--oh wait, they've got a bloody good point!'
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I empathize with our dearly departed. I was that golden child growing up. EVERYONE told me how wonderful everything I wrote was. I was, without any doubt, the best writer in my high school -- and really I *did* have talent.

BUT.

I wasn't ready to be a published novelist. I didn't realize it, but I wasn't ready to compete on an adult playing field. Edited to add: I would have been *crushed* if I'd gotten adult critiques at that stage. None of my early experiences would have prepared me for that in any way.

I was lucky. I stopped writing for quite a while, and in the interim I not only got a BA and MS in English, but I also focused on technical writing and began writing in the business world. My first real-life job taught me SO MUCH about how to be edited and how to approach writing as a business. By the time I returned to creative writing, I was both a MUCH better writer and better able to handle critiques.

I won't lie -- critiques still hurt. I want everyone to love every one of my golden words. But they don't, and I've discovered that it's not only likely that I have a lot to learn from other people, but that in the end my work is much better for it. And THAT is the real bottom line.
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BUT.

I wasn't ready to be a published novelist. I didn't realize it, but I wasn't ready to compete on an adult playing field.

I was lucky. I stopped writing for quite a while, and in the interim I not only got a BA and MS in English, but I also focused on technical writing and began writing in the business world. My first real-life job taught me SO MUCH about how to be edited and how to approach writing as a business. By the time I returned to creative writing, I was both a MUCH better writer and better able to handle critiques.

I won't lie -- critiques still hurt. I want everyone to love every one of my golden words. But they don't, and I've discovered that it's not only likely that I have a lot to learn from other people, but that in the end my work is much better for it. And THAT is the real bottom line.
Same here.
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And THAT is the real bottom line.

Because Stone Cold said so? Sorry, couldn't resist, but this DOES kinda remind me of Tough Enough this year (yes, I watch a reality show. Sue me ) Cos their crits were pretty harsh too...and totally what those guys needed.
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I must prune myself

In a nutshell.
I'm going to look in a mirror and say this before every revision from now on.
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Old 08-24-2011, 03:30 AM   #100
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I empathize with our dearly departed. I was that golden child growing up. EVERYONE told me how wonderful everything I wrote was. I was, without any doubt, the best writer in my high school -- and really I *did* have talent.

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I graduated in the bottom half of my class.

Low expectations--that'll fix 'em.
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