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Old 05-18-2012, 09:40 AM   #1976
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:43 AM   #1977
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I said it on FB but I'll say it here too, CONGRATS, DRAGONFLY!!!!

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Old 05-18-2012, 01:15 PM   #1978
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What kind of real life, like the boring mundane stuff?
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What kind of real life, like the boring mundane stuff?
Like the MC falling in love with one character, realising that that person would never love him because he's still mourning his dead lover, so he leaves and ends up with someone else.

Apparently, that is a no-no.
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Fire, you know, what can you do?

I've had people call the MC of my second book "realistic and relatable" and "timid and passive." I have readers who totally get what I was trying to do, and others who didn't get it at all. It's very frustrating at times. Especially in this internet age, where EVERYONE has an opinion and a platform to express it.

And frankly? I know we are supposed to go, "everyone's entitled to their opinion," but I'm sort of at the, "opinion, assholes, everyone's got one" place.

All opinions are not equally relevant to your particular work. You're not writing it for "everyone."

All you can do is, keep doing your work and hope you find your audience.

That's what I try to tell myself when I get an opinion from an asshole.
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:47 PM   #1981
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Like the MC falling in love with one character, realising that that person would never love him because he's still mourning his dead lover, so he leaves and ends up with someone else.

Apparently, that is a no-no.
Heh, yeah, a love interest fake-out won't go over well. At least not with a lot of time invested in LI 1 before LI 2 shows up. You can write it, just not for genre rom.


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Like the MC falling in love with one character, realising that that person would never love him because he's still mourning his dead lover, so he leaves and ends up with someone else.

Apparently, that is a no-no.
OMG, now I really want to read it. That piqued my interest, for some reason.

One thing I will say is that the outrage probably means you set up the tormented love interest really really well, which is a testament to your abilities, no?
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Old 05-18-2012, 03:05 PM   #1983
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Fire, you know, what can you do?

I've had people call the MC of my second book "realistic and relatable" and "timid and passive." I have readers who totally get what I was trying to do, and others who didn't get it at all. It's very frustrating at times. Especially in this internet age, where EVERYONE has an opinion and a platform to express it.

And frankly? I know we are supposed to go, "everyone's entitled to their opinion," but I'm sort of at the, "opinion, assholes, everyone's got one" place.

All opinions are not equally relevant to your particular work. You're not writing it for "everyone."

All you can do is, keep doing your work and hope you find your audience.

That's what I try to tell myself when I get an opinion from an asshole.
Yup, you're absolutely right. It just bugs me when people who haven't read it then scuttle off and put it on their 'Will never ever read this' list.
Lemmings.

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Obviously not! lol! Lesson learned. I had originally intended for the MC to end up with LI1 but it just lost its spark and went all lame and soppy. I decided I'd rather be true to myself and do right by the MC.

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OMG, now I really want to read it. That piqued my interest, for some reason.

One thing I will say is that the outrage probably means you set up the tormented love interest really really well, which is a testament to your abilities, no?
Thank you for saying that! I do know that the book made two fellow authors cry (in a good way). That works for me.
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Fire, it sounds like Mourning Jack is a love story, not a romance. Sorry for the reviews.

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Congrats, Dragonfly! Your due date is Mr. Lily's BD. CTW, those of us with big hulking teenagers would like to put in a request for many adorable baby photos, k? thx.

My juvenile humor of the day, which will be no news to Clovia: I went to the craft store to find something to enlarge the too-small holes in some freshwater pearls.

The device really is called a "bead reamer". *snerk* People think jewelry-making is such a delicate occupation.
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Dragonfly, yaying for you all over again!

(((Fire))) You gotta write the stories you want to read, because the gods know no one else might want to read them. So I keep telling myself anyway.

Since I turned 32, I can never remember my age. It's like I hit my mid-30s and my brain went "fuck it, it doesn't matter anymore." (After doing the math, I have determined I will be 36 in August.) It annoys the crap out of me when I get carded these days.

Still sick, but slept through the night. I'll try not to cough all over the thread today.
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Fire, it sounds like Mourning Jack is a love story, not a romance. Sorry for the reviews.

Congrats on Baby Dragonfly to Be!

yes, that's what it sounds like.

Adding my congrats to Dragonfly!!!!

I finished the Discovery of Witches-good, but I didn't realize it was part of a series, so I wanted the story to wrap up and it didn't. Also, I am completely unmoved by vampires as romantic leads. Ugh. The thought of the cold, clammy skin and neck-biting and blood just grosses me out, so at the end as the romance element became more pronounced over the mystery around the old book, I lost interest.

I'll still probably read the next book to find out what happens, but I'm not needing to read it right now.
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Obviously not! lol! Lesson learned. I had originally intended for the MC to end up with LI1 but it just lost its spark and went all lame and soppy. I decided I'd rather be true to myself and do right by the MC.
Yeah, it's one of those things that can be there, but it needs to be dosed carefully and set up so the reader knows this isn't "the one" even though the MC doesn't.

Paranormal romance has a lot of 2 LIs for the same MC back-and-forth and it seems more acceptable there....of course, some readers will be a fan of the loser to get the MC, but that's when the author gives the loserMC a better LI in the next book.

Risky, otherwise, without a ton of labels that indicate it's more of a realistic love story than "genre romance".
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All right, sick people, enough. We hereby decree all bad bacteria and viruses banned from your bodies until further notice.

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{{Fire}} I'm kinda with OL on this one. Sorry for the don't-get-iters
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Heh...

This is my paranormal romance: Girl meets Guy. Ends up in relationship with Guy. Relationship is unhealthy. At the end, Girl tells Guy he may love her, but he doesn't respect her, and dumps him.

Oh, and it's... paranormal...

So romantic, I know
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Morning, purgs! Loving this sunshine. Mr. Sunna is abandoning me again tomorrow (poor man keeps getting stuck working weekends), so I'm planning on a ridiculous amount of yardwork. And I think it's finally time to start contemplating the Great Deck Project, which I have no idea how to go about doing, but the deck badly needs to be redone.

Re: age, I'm rather enjoying 32. I feel like I get much more than I used to, am much more resigned tosettled in my weird self than I was even a few years ago, and damn if sex doesn't get steadily better the older you get. (Whited out for you purgs of delicate sensibility, if such creatures exist.)

At this rate, my 40s ought to be a blast.

Colby!!!!! CONGRATS!!

And CONGRATS AGAIN!!!!

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I'll still probably read the next book to find out what happens, but I'm not needing to read it right now.
That was more or less my reaction. I really, really enjoyed the beginning, but when everything veered sharply into nothing-but-romance and an oh-gosh-I'm-super-powerful MC, I was disappointed. It felt like a completely different story took over about halfway through.
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tas has left me here unsupervised. No flaky boss today either. Not a lot here. Looks like a confrontation is about to rise with another segment of my family. Fun times.
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Ream them beads, Lily! *juvenile snicker*
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:27 PM   #1998
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OMG, now I really want to read it. That piqued my interest, for some reason.

One thing I will say is that the outrage probably means you set up the tormented love interest really really well, which is a testament to your abilities, no?
+1 Sounds like an awesome story, Fire.

Mornight, all.
I turn 36 in July and I can second or third some of the other purgies in this thread to say that everything just keeps getting better with age. Yeah. Everything. (Any excuse to use this little guy)
And there is nothing better than wearing a daggy (but comfy) outfit and not giving a toss what others think. That is actually the best part of aging, I think. You don't worry so much about what others see you as. I spent my late teens and early twenties worrying so much about what others thought. Now? I me.
Weirdly, the other day, I had two separate 'cat-call' incidents within two hours of each other! One at the post-office and the other in the car-park of my kids school, lol! (This never happens.)
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Ream them beads, Lily! *juvenile snicker*
Yep. Picture me this weekend, watching the new Sherlock, a rough, pointed, tapered metal file in one hand and a fragile bead in the other. Suddenly... grzhoom! Minuscule filings of fragile bead innards litter the table. And what was that faint, metallic scream?

There is no art without pain.
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:56 PM   #2000
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LMAO!

Okay, wait. I'm going to take advantage of the fact that we have so many young whippersnappers in here!

No, not like THAT!

But here is my question. When I'm typing, on my computer, y'know... Can I really, really... when I type the end of a sentence, am I really allowed to put ONLY ONE SPACE after the period now? Is this really true in the modern world? I mean, is this how the young people do it? Is this what young magazine editors are expecting me to do?

I'm so embarrassed.
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