Samhain Publishing - Page 3

Christine N. · 01-29-2007, 09:18 PM

They say they're looking for all genres, but do they mostly do Romance? I'm wondering, since they have no YA titles listed.

Thinking out loud, putting Plan B together, just in case...

veinglory · 01-29-2007, 09:43 PM

So far there is a romance focus.

JAK · 01-29-2007, 10:00 PM

... but they are expanding to other genres as well. In addition to my horror novel Dark Resurrection, they are looking into at least one action-type sci-fi

Christine N. · 01-29-2007, 10:53 PM

They look like they've got their stuff together, so I was considering subbing my series to them if the publisher I've got on the line gets away. I especially like the fact that physical books have been found on shelves.

(I don't often do fish analogies, can ya tell?)

veinglory · 01-29-2007, 11:22 PM

I wouldn't assume that every POD of theirs will get shelved, but it is at least a possibility.

Christine N. · 01-29-2007, 11:33 PM

True, true, but at least they've proven they have the ability.

Toni1953 · 01-29-2007, 11:33 PM

I'm sorry I didn't consider them sooner. I thought they were strictly e-publishing.

Josie · 01-30-2007, 12:57 AM

James said "It's best not to confuse digital printing technology with the print-on-demand business model."

As far as I know IMHO he's right. This is not a POD, where a customer orders ONE book and it's mailed from the small e-publisher. I think it has to do with how many they can get on the "real" shelves in bookstores. Do they still have that business that if the store can't sell them, that's their problem? They aren't like Harlequin/Silhouette who takes back the ones that don't sell. Have I got it right?

I don't expect I'll hear from Samhain Publishing for 8 weeks as they stated on their submissions page.

Cheers my dears

Christine N. · 01-30-2007, 02:14 AM

I would assume, if they're being stocked in real brick and mortar stores, that SP has a return policy in place. Stores wouldn't take 'em otherwise.

Having a POD business model means what you said, Josie - no books are printed until ordered. Usually means no returns.

Using a digital printing facility - like Lightning Source - is just using technology to print books. You can print as many as you need at any given time. Digital printing as opposed to an offset press.

Advantage to digital printing - you can do smaller print runs. Disadvantage - usually more expensive per copy than offset. Smaller presses usually use digital because of the smaller print run advantage, but wind up charging a little higher cover price than a big company who uses offset presses and does huge print runs.

BarbaraSheridan · 01-30-2007, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christine N.

They say they're looking for all genres, but do they mostly do Romance? I'm wondering, since they have no YA titles listed.

I believe there's a YA in the works because I'm sure Anne mentioned doing a cover for one.

Christine N. · 02-03-2007, 08:31 PM

Ok, I asked if they would look at books for 9-12 year olds, and they said yes, so I subbed to them. (the other publisher I had been waiting for has put their children's line 'on hold', so I dusted off the old query letter, shined it up and sent it to three places)

We'll see what happens. Thanks for all the information, peeps!

Branwyn · 02-04-2007, 08:46 PM

Good Luck! I'm having a great ride with Samhain so far!

I'm working on my final edits now for spring release. (April 24)

Christine N. · 02-04-2007, 10:00 PM

I found a couple of YA books on their Coming Soon page.

Sonarbabe · 02-05-2007, 02:26 AM

Well, I submitted my story to them about twenty minutes ago. Now to hold my breath for the next 8-12 weeks while they decide whether or not I suck the big one.

From everything I've read in this thread, it would be great if they at least ask to see the rest of my story. (And I just made the 65,000 word cut off too. Ha!) Crossing my fingers, toes and eyes on this one!

JimmyD1318 · 02-05-2007, 04:15 AM

I guess I'll send my little book to them also once I'm done with this final edit to it. But my book comes in a little under 45,000 words. If they take it will it only be a ebook or is there a chance that it might be upgraded to a real paperback? Just wondering....

Toni1953 · 02-05-2007, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyD1318

I guess I'll send my little book to them also once I'm done with this final edit to it. But my book comes in a little under 45,000 words. If they take it will it only be a ebook or is there a chance that it might be upgraded to a real paperback? Just wondering....

I believe it says somewhere on their site books over 60,000 go to print, so you might want to double check with the editors when sending it in or add another 15,000 words (not easy, I know :.)

Branwyn · 02-05-2007, 09:01 PM

I just received the art for the cover---it is SOOOO gorgeous!!! Anne did a fabulous job, better than I hoped for. They are really a great group to work with, I'm very happy.

I can't wait to show you the cover.

Toni1953 · 02-05-2007, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branwyn

I just received the art for the cover---it is SOOOO gorgeous!!! Anne did a fabulous job, better than I hoped for. They are really a great group to work with, I'm very happy.

I can't wait to show you the cover.

Show us! Show us!

Toni1953 · 02-10-2007, 06:39 PM

I submitted to them. I got a response back from the editor within two weeks. She made some creative suggestions and invited me to rewrite and resubmit, which I will do.

Sonarbabe · 02-17-2007, 10:14 PM

I received a reply today from the partial I sent asking to see the full for further consideration. Keep your fingers crossed for me, guys!!

Josie · 02-17-2007, 10:23 PM

Good luck all of you!!!
Excited for you.

Cheeers

Christine N. · 02-17-2007, 10:55 PM

I've seen Branwyn's cover - it IS nice (it's on the Samhain site now.)

'Babe - I am SUPER excited for you. I'm glad I pointed you in their direction. Toni, hope your resubmit tickles their fancy.

I haven't heard anything yet, but it's only been what, two weeks? I sent the whole manuscript up front though, since they take it, along with my synopsis.

veinglory · 02-17-2007, 11:05 PM

My cover is up if anyone wants to see it

http://samhainpublishing.com/coming/...on-king-of-men

Sonarbabe · 02-18-2007, 12:24 AM

Both covers look awesome! *Hopes to have one on there someday. lol*

EngineerTiger · 02-18-2007, 12:44 AM

Looks outstanding Veinglory. Best of luck with it. Story looks interesting.

01-29-2007, 09:18 PM	#51
Christine N. is not the avatar thief Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 7,625	They say they're looking for all genres, but do they mostly do Romance? I'm wondering, since they have no YA titles listed. Thinking out loud, putting Plan B together, just in case... __________________ Christine Young Adult Fantasy Author The Sword of Danu (The Library of Athena, Book Four): Get yours TODAY! YA Historical Fantasy/Fairy-Tale Adaptation - HAS AN AGENT! I tweet Young Adult Authors You've Never Heard Of

01-29-2007, 09:43 PM	#52
veinglory volitare nequeo AW Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: right here Posts: 23,261	So far there is a romance focus. __________________ Coming Soon: Taniwha in the Cleis Press anthology 'Beach Bums' *[pre order now!]* New Release: Broken Sword via Amazon Kindle

01-29-2007, 10:00 PM	#53
JAK figuring it all out Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 61	... but they are expanding to other genres as well. In addition to my horror novel Dark Resurrection, they are looking into at least one action-type sci-fi __________________ http://www.johnakarr.com

01-29-2007, 10:53 PM	#54
Christine N. is not the avatar thief Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 7,625	They look like they've got their stuff together, so I was considering subbing my series to them if the publisher I've got on the line gets away. I especially like the fact that physical books have been found on shelves. (I don't often do fish analogies, can ya tell?) __________________ Christine Young Adult Fantasy Author The Sword of Danu (The Library of Athena, Book Four): Get yours TODAY! YA Historical Fantasy/Fairy-Tale Adaptation - HAS AN AGENT! I tweet Young Adult Authors You've Never Heard Of

01-29-2007, 11:22 PM	#55
veinglory volitare nequeo AW Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: right here Posts: 23,261	I wouldn't assume that every POD of theirs will get shelved, but it is at least a possibility. __________________ Coming Soon: Taniwha in the Cleis Press anthology 'Beach Bums' *[pre order now!]* New Release: Broken Sword via Amazon Kindle

01-29-2007, 11:33 PM	#56
Christine N. is not the avatar thief Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 7,625	True, true, but at least they've proven they have the ability. __________________ Christine Young Adult Fantasy Author The Sword of Danu (The Library of Athena, Book Four): Get yours TODAY! YA Historical Fantasy/Fairy-Tale Adaptation - HAS AN AGENT! I tweet Young Adult Authors You've Never Heard Of

01-29-2007, 11:33 PM	#57
Toni1953 practical experience, FTW Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,194	I'm sorry I didn't consider them sooner. I thought they were strictly e-publishing. __________________ *Toni* Repped by Josh Getzler, HSG Literary Hey! My cat has his own blog! (Yes, Rocco blogs!) http://www.catsbooksmorecats.blogspot.com Coming 2014 from Berkeley Prime Crime: MEOW IF ITS MURDER The First Nick & Nora Mystery!

01-30-2007, 12:57 AM	#58
Josie practical experience, FTW Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 605	James said "It's best not to confuse digital printing technology with the print-on-demand business model." As far as I know IMHO he's right. This is not a POD, where a customer orders ONE book and it's mailed from the small e-publisher. I think it has to do with how many they can get on the "real" shelves in bookstores. Do they still have that business that if the store can't sell them, that's their problem? They aren't like Harlequin/Silhouette who takes back the ones that don't sell. Have I got it right? I don't expect I'll hear from Samhain Publishing for 8 weeks as they stated on their submissions page. Cheers my dears

01-30-2007, 02:14 AM	#59
Christine N. is not the avatar thief Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 7,625	I would assume, if they're being stocked in real brick and mortar stores, that SP has a return policy in place. Stores wouldn't take 'em otherwise. Having a POD business model means what you said, Josie - no books are printed until ordered. Usually means no returns. Using a digital printing facility - like Lightning Source - is just using technology to print books. You can print as many as you need at any given time. Digital printing as opposed to an offset press. Advantage to digital printing - you can do smaller print runs. Disadvantage - usually more expensive per copy than offset. Smaller presses usually use digital because of the smaller print run advantage, but wind up charging a little higher cover price than a big company who uses offset presses and does huge print runs. __________________ Christine Young Adult Fantasy Author The Sword of Danu (The Library of Athena, Book Four): Get yours TODAY! YA Historical Fantasy/Fairy-Tale Adaptation - HAS AN AGENT! I tweet Young Adult Authors You've Never Heard Of

02-03-2007, 08:31 PM	#61
Christine N. is not the avatar thief Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 7,625	Ok, I asked if they would look at books for 9-12 year olds, and they said yes, so I subbed to them. (the other publisher I had been waiting for has put their children's line 'on hold', so I dusted off the old query letter, shined it up and sent it to three places) We'll see what happens. Thanks for all the information, peeps! __________________ Christine Young Adult Fantasy Author The Sword of Danu (The Library of Athena, Book Four): Get yours TODAY! YA Historical Fantasy/Fairy-Tale Adaptation - HAS AN AGENT! I tweet Young Adult Authors You've Never Heard Of

02-04-2007, 08:46 PM	#62
Branwyn Print release:Sept.1,'09 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Purgatory's Pit of Doom Posts: 1,766	Good Luck! I'm having a great ride with Samhain so far! I'm working on my final edits now for spring release. (April 24) __________________ The Hanging Tree-WIP Harvest Moon-WIP myspace.com/elladonna The Upside of Karma

02-04-2007, 10:00 PM	#63
Christine N. is not the avatar thief Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 7,625	I found a couple of YA books on their Coming Soon page. __________________ Christine Young Adult Fantasy Author The Sword of Danu (The Library of Athena, Book Four): Get yours TODAY! YA Historical Fantasy/Fairy-Tale Adaptation - HAS AN AGENT! I tweet Young Adult Authors You've Never Heard Of

02-05-2007, 02:26 AM	#64
Sonarbabe Working In A Coal Mine... Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oz Posts: 672	Well, I submitted my story to them about twenty minutes ago. Now to hold my breath for the next 8-12 weeks while they decide whether or not I suck the big one. From everything I've read in this thread, it would be great if they at least ask to see the rest of my story. (And I just made the 65,000 word cut off too. Ha!) Crossing my fingers, toes and eyes on this one! __________________ The only reason for being a professional writer is that you can't help it. ~ Leo Rosten 2009 Acceptance Pledge 0/2 2009 Rejection Pledge 0/10 Current WIP 46,492/65,000 Oooh! I have a website.

02-05-2007, 04:15 AM	#65
JimmyD1318 THE POPCORN MONSTER! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 902	Hmmm....why not. I guess I'll send my little book to them also once I'm done with this final edit to it. But my book comes in a little under 45,000 words. If they take it will it only be a ebook or is there a chance that it might be upgraded to a real paperback? Just wondering....

02-05-2007, 09:01 PM	#67
Branwyn Print release:Sept.1,'09 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Purgatory's Pit of Doom Posts: 1,766	I just received the art for the cover---it is SOOOO gorgeous!!! Anne did a fabulous job, better than I hoped for. They are really a great group to work with, I'm very happy. I can't wait to show you the cover. __________________ The Hanging Tree-WIP Harvest Moon-WIP myspace.com/elladonna The Upside of Karma

02-10-2007, 06:39 PM	#69
Toni1953 practical experience, FTW Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,194	I submitted to them. I got a response back from the editor within two weeks. She made some creative suggestions and invited me to rewrite and resubmit, which I will do. __________________ *Toni* Repped by Josh Getzler, HSG Literary Hey! My cat has his own blog! (Yes, Rocco blogs!) http://www.catsbooksmorecats.blogspot.com Coming 2014 from Berkeley Prime Crime: MEOW IF ITS MURDER The First Nick & Nora Mystery!

02-17-2007, 10:14 PM	#70
Sonarbabe Working In A Coal Mine... Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oz Posts: 672	I received a reply today from the partial I sent asking to see the full for further consideration. Keep your fingers crossed for me, guys!! __________________ The only reason for being a professional writer is that you can't help it. ~ Leo Rosten 2009 Acceptance Pledge 0/2 2009 Rejection Pledge 0/10 Current WIP 46,492/65,000 Oooh! I have a website.

02-17-2007, 10:23 PM	#71
Josie practical experience, FTW Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 605	Good luck all of you!!! Excited for you. Cheeers

02-17-2007, 10:55 PM	#72
Christine N. is not the avatar thief Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 7,625	I've seen Branwyn's cover - it IS nice (it's on the Samhain site now.) 'Babe - I am SUPER excited for you. I'm glad I pointed you in their direction. Toni, hope your resubmit tickles their fancy. I haven't heard anything yet, but it's only been what, two weeks? I sent the whole manuscript up front though, since they take it, along with my synopsis. __________________ Christine Young Adult Fantasy Author The Sword of Danu (The Library of Athena, Book Four): Get yours TODAY! YA Historical Fantasy/Fairy-Tale Adaptation - HAS AN AGENT! I tweet Young Adult Authors You've Never Heard Of Last edited by Christine N.; 02-17-2007 at 10:59 PM.

02-17-2007, 11:05 PM	#73
veinglory volitare nequeo AW Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: right here Posts: 23,261	My cover is up if anyone wants to see it http://samhainpublishing.com/coming/...on-king-of-men __________________ Coming Soon: Taniwha in the Cleis Press anthology 'Beach Bums' *[pre order now!]* New Release: Broken Sword via Amazon Kindle

02-18-2007, 12:24 AM	#74
Sonarbabe Working In A Coal Mine... Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oz Posts: 672	Both covers look awesome! Hopes to have one on there someday. lol __________________ The only reason for being a professional writer is that you can't help it. ~ Leo Rosten 2009 Acceptance Pledge 0/2 2009 Rejection Pledge 0/10 Current WIP 46,492/65,000 Oooh! I have a website.

02-18-2007, 12:44 AM	#75
EngineerTiger Writing HF Again, Thank God Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 409	Looks outstanding Veinglory. Best of luck with it. Story looks interesting.

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