Kaboom! Or how A Good Day To Die Hard fails as a thriller

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I went to watch A Good Day To Die Hard yesterday; I didn't expect much, and it met my expectations (!). Don't get me wrong, it wasn't completely awful, and there's a great car chase scene which is almost (almost, not quite) worth the price of admission. However, for me it fails as a thriller.

While I was sitting wondering when it would end and if I could get some more popcorn without missing anything, I had some thoughts on why it didn't work and how those things could apply to those of us writing thrillers.

This will inevitably involve spoilers. You have been warned.


Point the first: I just didn't care

I found myself really not caring what happened to any of the characters, and in retrospect I think I know why. There was far too much reliance on audience sympathy having been established in the previous films.

Now, I watched all the Die Hard films in sequence between Christmas and now (Die Hard 1 is a great Christmas movie :D) so I should have been well-placed to root for McClane. I have a good, fresh memory of everything he went through and how he did it.

A Good Day appears to operate on the assumption that we will get behind McClane simply because he is McClane; that he's the good guy and the others are bad guys. Problem is that McClane in the film just isn't that likeable, and nor is his son (played by Jai Courtney, who has a familiar face depsite me not having seen him in anything else). They're both crass and shouty, and operate only on a superficial level of emotion. That's in contrast to the first couple of movies, where John has deeper motives and desires beyond "kill the bad guys and escape". I think there's an attempt to craft this from his relationship with his son, but because neither character is likeable - or relateable in the way they react to things or approach situations - this falls flat.


Point the second - the bad guys were rubbish

The movie follows much the same basic plot as the earlier ones, with terrorist action concealing a heist at the heart of it, but, unlike the previous films, the motives for said heist were unclear. That, combined with a bait-and-switch approach to the bad guys - so many people turned out to be secretly working for a different side that the twist became a death spiral - meant that I had little sense of what the good guys were fighting against. I knew who they were fighting, but that was about it. Why seemed to be just "because they're there and I'm here", which again fell flat for me.

Die Hard 4.0 (Live Free Or Die Hard in the US, I think) isn't the best in the series, but there's an interesting conversation about heroic motives in there. McClane makes the point that a hero is someone who, when found in the wrong place at the wrong time, stands up for right "because there's nobody else to do it". This is repeated later in the film when the wimpy sidekick does a heroic act and understands that he did it for the same reason.

In A Good Day the heroic motive is reduced to "I kill scumbags. That's what we do", and, combined with a lack of a clear and compelling villainous motive, it means the film stumbles from one action sequence to the next instead of having a clear line of opposition and struggle drawn through it.


Point the third - there was no tension

Die Hard 1 works in part because the odds are stacked against McClane. He's on his own, increasingly stripped of resources against an opponent who grows in power. Hell, he even loses his shoes at one point. Even with the dramatic irony of us knowing he's the hero and he will inevitably prevail, the story does a good job of convincing us he might fail.

A Good Day does the opposite, providing John and his son with a trunk-full of weapons right before the finale, like a save point right before a boss battle in a video game. Sure, there are more bad guys than before, and they have a helicopter - but it's a transport, whereas earlier the McClanes had to survive an attack from a gunship. The bad guys have U-235 too... except there's some fancy phlebotinum gas that neutralises radiation to make that all better. The odds against them are actually less than earlier in the story.

This is a two-pronged problem, and comes back to the earlier points as well. One of the failings in characterisation is how unfazed the McClanes are by all the action. In the firm couple of films, John is bolstered by his cop training, but is still freaked out by people shooting at him. He finds time for a cocky one-liner, but that's as much a defence mechanism as anything.

By A Good Day, he's morphed into this unstoppable badass who doesn't even blink in the face of automatic fire. His son is even cooler, but he doesn't get such good lines, which means he comes across as arrogant. One character unflappable and wisecracking, the other arrogant, and the net result is that we never feel like the situation is more than they can handle. Take that with weak bad guys (as discussed above) and decreasing stakes and there's no tension whatsoever. It's a thriller, and it's not thrilling!

Whether you've seen the film or not, what do you think? What elements are essential to great thrillers, and are sometimes missed by writers (in all media)? What writers and stories do you think are examples of these things done well? And can anyone explain to a hapless Brit what on earth "yippie-ki-yay" means?! :D
 

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Different tastes. I loved every aspect of the movie. I thought it not only succeeded, but may well be the best of the series.
 

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So, may we assume this is a critique of the screenplay, the subsequent film, or both?

Yippie-ki-yay is euphemism attributed to the American cowboy that is typically shouted at the onset of a wild and dangerous endeavor, an affirmation of imminent challenge and ensuing chaos.
 

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So, may we assume this is a critique of the screenplay, the subsequent film, or both?

Bit of both, bit of ranting :D. Really just trying to work out what went wrong so I don't make the same mistakes...

Yippie-ki-yay is euphemism attributed to the American cowboy that is typically shouted at the onset of a wild and dangerous endeavor, an affirmation of imminent challenge and ensuing chaos.

Good to know! Figured it was something like that, with the Roy Rogers mention in the first film.
 

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Bit of both, bit of ranting :D. Really just trying to work out what went wrong so I don't make the same mistakes...

I've seen the first film, but none of the others. This one seems to suffer from lazy writing. I don't think you have to worry about that. :)

Hollywood puzzles me much of the time. They can produce some wonderful stuff; but they seem perpetually attracted to endless franchises and remakes. That's not always bad - I loved the "Star Trek" reboot - but most of the time it seems like an excuse to leave out any originality at all.
 

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Hollywood puzzles me much of the time. They can produce some wonderful stuff; but they seem perpetually attracted to endless franchises and remakes. That's not always bad - I loved the "Star Trek" reboot - but most of the time it seems like an excuse to leave out any originality at all.

I think the remakes and reboots thing is the same reason we get sequels, and popular books get turned into movies - there's a built-in audience. Marketing a truly brand new proposition is a lot harder than saying "you liked this, so here's some more". Familiarity with an IP is several million worth of "free" publicity.
 

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You forgot to tell us about the special effects. That's where the money went.

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OSG, you should be a film critic. You really nailed this, and though I haven't seen the movie, a few friends have and basically said the same things. When they left the theater they felt ripped off and wanted their money back. (Yes, even with all the "stuff blowing up".)
 

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Hmmm...

When one starts out a critique with "I didn't expect much" I completely brush over the rest of the review or critique.

If you go to a movie with any expectation other than to e entertained for an hour or three you're only fooling yourself.

Let's look at this honestly - If I were to review anyone's writing, book, or story and start off with "I read it, but I didn't expect much" how would that make you feel - especially if it was your work?

Seriously, did you go to the movie to be entertained or to critique it knowing you wouldn't like it? There is a serious dichotomy of bias there.

Sorry to be harsh or critical, but I go to a movie, I read a book, I watch a play, etc., etc. with the intention of being entertained, not to be a critic (if I'm spending money on it, I'm looking forward to being entertained not looking forward to not finding it entertaining).

If you did not expect to like the movie in the first place why the Devil would you have wasted your money going to it and our time reading your criticism of it?
 

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Fair point. What I meant was I didn't expect:

1 - it to be as good as the first film
2 - it to be a great work of art
3 - it to be anything other than a diverting, entertaining ninety minutes

That it failed at number three was the reason for my original post. I did at least expect to like it! So hands up - that line in my original post is wrong. I was being catty.
 

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From what I've read in reviews, OSG, the critics agree with you: poor tension/plot, lots of big CGI explosions.

It's a good lesson to thriller writers though. A series of big explosions/violent murders do not constitute as a plot. There has to be a story underpinning the plot points.
 

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It's a frikkin' Die Hard movie. The basic plot is Bruce Willis and a partner blow stuff up and kill lots of bad guys and say "Fuck" every other line. Of course the critics don't like it. It's not "artsy" enough for them. Critics never like action flicks. They have always hated the Die Hard films (and no sequel ever comes close to the original film).

I'll go see the movie this weekend, but I'll be spending that $20 to see Bruce Willis and partner blow up stauff and kill bad guys and say "Fuck" every other line, not to see whether the movie has any social or artistic merit.

I do, however, apologize for any offense or slight I might have caused with my original response. Nothing of the sort was intended.

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It's a frikkin' Die Hard movie. The basic plot is Bruce Willis and a partner blow stuff up and kill lots of bad guys and say "Fuck" every other line. Of course the critics don't like it. It's not "artsy" enough for them. Critics never like action flicks. They have always hated the Die Hard films (and no sequel ever comes close to the original film).

I'll go see the movie this weekend, but I'll be spending that $20 to see Bruce Willis and partner blow up stauff and kill bad guys and say "Fuck" every other line, not to see whether the movie has any social or artistic merit.

I do, however, apologize for any offense or slight I might have caused with my original response. Nothing of the sort was intended.

:)

It's been a while since I saw any of the Die Hard movies, but I remember them being a bit more sophisticated than just 'blowing stuff up.' I haven't seen it, but some of my friends have, and they have echoed what the critics said.
 

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It's a good lesson to thriller writers though. A series of big explosions/violent murders do not constitute as a plot. There has to be a story underpinning the plot points.

Completely agree. All the explosions in the world don't mean anything if there's no reason behind them.
 

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I've seen the first film, but none of the others. This one seems to suffer from lazy writing. I don't think you have to worry about that. :)

Hollywood puzzles me much of the time. They can produce some wonderful stuff; but they seem perpetually attracted to endless franchises and remakes. That's not always bad - I loved the "Star Trek" reboot - but most of the time it seems like an excuse to leave out any originality at all.

If millions go see it and like it, it's good. Period. Most love franchises and remakes. Originality is a good thing, but you don't stop running a winning horse. Writers seldom complain when other writers write a series, but don't like it when Hollywood does the same thing?

Hollywood does it for the same reason writers do it, and lack of originality ain't it. They do it because viewers, just like readers, don't want to leave a world they like, and characters they love.

There is no lazy writing in this movie, it's some of the best writing I've seen, but they do expect that 99% of those who go see it will have also seen the others. Coming in on a movie like this without seeing the others makes it impossible to judge this one. It make no more sense than reading the last novel in Stephen King's Dark Tower series first.