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Old 02-21-2006, 09:11 PM   #801
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Woof. That author better be prepared for a) a public dressing-down, or b) banning, or c) her post to just disappear.
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Well, well, well, isn't this a fabulous day.

Thanks must be given to Phil Dolan for blazing the trail.

My theory, Jenna, is that PA wants no part in the money losing game of arbitration. Hence, the releases of late. Those releasings re-para;17 of the contract. I assume that they don't want to site para 24 because of the wording about buying the remaining, paper, books and plates, which of course POD books wouldn't have.

But, as PA says, YOUR breaching para 17 can't be used either, because most of us have worked our tails off in the beginning to sell our PA book. I've done all of the things that Para 17 lists, at one time or the other. I even purchased 150 books.

I would not be surprised that anyone who asked for a release after a couple years on the roles, will get it, free-of gag.

Including me. Wink. WOoT! Yes, I did!
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Woof. That author better be prepared for a) a public dressing-down, or b) banning, or c) her post to just disappear.
The last post, that criticised PA, has vanished.

Ken, FREEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!
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Those releasings re-para;17 of the contract. I assume that they don't want to site para 24 because of the wording about buying the remaining, paper, books and plates, which of course POD books wouldn't have.

But, as PA says, YOUR breaching para 17 can't be used either, because most of us have worked our tails off in the beginning to sell our PA book.
To my knowledge, two of the last three releases cited Paragraph 24. The third was pursuant to Paragraph 17. In that case, she had told PA flat out that she wasn't going to promote.
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Does that mean you've received a release, or requested it?
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I smell a tone letter here.

Darlin', they're in the printing business, and they don't even know much about that, either.
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Darlin', they're in the printing business, and they don't even know much about that, either.


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Does that mean you've received a release, or requested it?
I got it, Yep.

I sent this e-mail last Wednesday, 2-14

Good day, I would like my print rights returned without any gag orders, or conditions. Isbn 1413734421.

I plan to take other actions if you don't agree.

Thank you,
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The letter is dated 2- 15. Sent 2-16. I got it today.
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Well, well, well, looks like that fund we're building to support arbitration for PA authors is going to just sit around without being used. Send in your letters now. Let PA know you're serious. Be polite, but be firm just like Ken was. Good luck to you all.

By the way, congratulations, Ken.
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I got it, Yep.

I sent this e-mail last Wednesday, 2-14

Good day, I would like my print rights returned without any gag orders, or conditions. Isbn 1413734421.

I plan to take other actions if you don't agree.

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The letter is dated 2- 15. Sent 2-16. I got it today.
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I got it, Yep.
Sorry, I hadn't read Overflow yet when I asked that. All riiiiight, then -- congratulations!
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Yeah, they're doing a splendid job of not giving a **** about whether their authors can fulfil their obligations and get their books into bookstores for signings.

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That author's next post was critical of PA. So PA deleted it. We're only allowed to read the authors posts while they're still happy.
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I think that I might have just underwent the ultimate indignity. The Cleveland Post has declined to publish my press release concerning my splendid PA novel, The Newness of New.
This Cleveland Post has nothing to do with the Ohio city. Cleveland is a small sub-district of the small town of Benson, North Carolina. It does have a fine Middle school, and an even finer Elementary School, and it has a free home delivered weekly newspaper called The Cleveland Post. Filled mostly with advertisements from the local merchants the Post does contain lists of community events and local church and civic group happenings. And only the other month, there was a small item about a book signing that a local author was going to perform in one of the church halls on a Saturday afternoon.
I thought that I had edtablished my residency requirements and I also qualified as a local author, so I sent a little note to the assistant editor whose name is featured on the announcements column.
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Are you talking about the release PA was supposed to send? What PA sends is an order form, not a real release. An order form with your own quote about the book on it. No newspaper is going to print that. Do you know whether PA even mailed a release? If not, the editor probably looked at your letter with disbelief and threw it away. I wrote and emailed my OWN release to The Herald and had it in the next edition of the paper (In the days when I was happy with PA). The slight has nothing to do with you once so ever. Blame PA.
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Dated February 15, 2006 is a letter I received from PublishAmerica. The opening sentence reads: “I am informing you that, under Par. 24 of our agreement, we are discontinuing the publication of your book ‘[title]' as of this day.”

Par. 24 is then quoted and it deals with lack of public demand.

Jessica Lewis, an employee at PublishAmerica wrote in her closing paragraph, “I am informing you herewith that we have currently no copies of your book in stock. All rights under the copyright are herewith returned to you.”

After I got the certified one-page letter this afternoon at the post office, I became one of the recent parolees from PA prison. This news makes me an officially happy Ex, Former, Past, No More, Previous PublishAmerica author.

Anyone wishing to get out of their contract should refrain from promoting their work. Additionally, asking for your book’s rights back via email and registered snail mail, writing articles, and sending out press releases to tell the general online public of this also seems to help.

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... I became one of the recent parolees from PA prison....
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Very Curious....
I have been running since I got home from work and finally looked in my mailbox. I found a notice for a certified letter that is waiting for me at the post office. I'll pick it up tomorrow during my planning period at school. The certified letter is from Publish America.

Do you suppose it's a release notice? I may not sleep tonight just thinking about what it could be.

I'll let you know,
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