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Note: Due to problems after the upgrade, the Beta Project has been moved to a new subforum: Beta Project Subforum 2. The password is "testing." You can find all 2015 entries there.

It's that time again. The Beta Project is an attempt to pair AW members to the best beta reader for their novels. And if you don't know what a beta is, then this is the thread for you. Betas are invaluable resources for writers, pointing out the problems with characterization, plotting, descriptions, dialogue, and so. Some may be detailed and some may be more general. Usually you'd discuss with your betas what kind of things you want them to look for, although that will not stop them from pointing out things you never even thought of as a problem.

How does the Beta Project work?

Each participant will submit a private message to me by Friday, May 1, 2015 at 11:59 p.m. EST (to PM me, click on my user name and select "Send a private message to Sage"). This gives you 2 weeks to polish up your entries and finish up your novel if you were close to being done. You can submit unfinished manuscripts, and you can also submit short stories, non-fiction, poetry, screenplays, comic books, whatever you need a beta for. However, I believe all past entries have been novels, and if only one or two others are entered this time, it may be difficult to find knowledgeable betas for you (so encourage others in your category to submit if you want to join with a non-novel).

Personally, I prefer finished, polished mss to beta, but you absolutely can enter with an unfinished novel. Please do make sure that you note that information in your entry. If you have any other unusual beta requests, note those please too.

The only requirement I make for entering is that you're a member in good standing as of today, April 15, 2015.

Your PM should look a little something like this:

Manuscript Title: Your current title or "untitled" if you prefer
Manuscript Genre: This will help match you up to readers
Manuscript Word Count: (or Current/Projected Word Count for unfinished mss)
Is your manuscript finished?: Y/N

Hook:

150 words about your novel. It doesn't have to be a full query, and probably won't be with this word-count limit. But it's great practice for summarizing your novel in a way that will hook readers.

First 750 words:

In standard manuscript format (Courier New, 12 pt, double space), 750 words is about 3 pages. Find a spot short of that 750-word mark that makes for a good ending spot. You should be in normal AW format (Verdana, size 2, with a space between paragraphs) when you submit to the Beta Project.

What do you look for in a beta?

About 100 words about what you're looking for. For example, I might say, "I'm looking for a beta who will point out those pesky plot holes I've been blind to and any characterization that doesn't work. My description can sometimes be lacking, so please tell me when I need more. And I'm nervous about the romance. Is it, well, romantic?"

What genres do you read?

This is for matching purposes and will not be posted. Include also if you like other categories, such as non-fiction, poetry, short stories, etc. just in case we get some non-novel entries.

What happens next?

On May 2, I will post the entries in the Beta Project Subforum. There they will be under the same protection as those excerpts posted in Share Your Work. The password is "beta." That's a great place to see examples of what the last Beta Project was like.

The entries will be anonymous. Don't worry about it if you've posted about your manuscript elsewhere on AW and know that it might be recognizable, but we're hoping that beta offers come because your hook and first 3 pages catch the reader's attention.

I will assign everybody 3 entries to critique. This way everyone will get at least 3 critiques on their first 3 pages and maybe their hook and title too. Since the entries will be posted publicly, critiques may also come from people who were not assigned to you. The critiques will be anonymous as well, and will be sent to me. I post them in the thread with its associated entry. That way, you can get critique experience without feeling pressured about what other's might think, but the critiques will still be posted so that others can learn from them. And you'll be surprised how much you'll learn critiquing other people's work.

These mandatory critiques are just on the 750-word sample from each entry. Entrants may request to beta other entries, but it is not a requirement.

You will be given 2 weeks to critique the entries assigned to you. If you fail to PM me the critiques by 11:59 p.m. EST, Friday, May 15, 2015, I will withhold your critiques and beta offers. Don't make me do that. The critiques can be detailed if you wish, or they could just be a few constructive points. I will post all critiques on May 16 using the same formatting used when they were submitted to me. If I get all the mandatory critiques before then, I'll post them earlier.

Everybody on AW can offer to beta or critique the entries, not just participants!

If you see one or more entries that you wish to beta, PM me with the entry number(s) you liked, and I will share your name with the author(s) so that they can choose to contact you. But, don't worry, just because you were selected to critique an entry, you do not have to beta it unless you want to.

Last year, if someone had sent in their critiques early, I gave them the names of any beta requesters as they came in. I imagine I will continue that tradition this year. Betas may request at any time after the entries are posted.

Timeline:

April 15: You must have joined Absolute Write by this date to participate. You can enter starting today!
May 1: Due date for all entries (You're welcome, Camp NaNoers)
May 2: After a sleepless night, Sage posts the entries in the Beta Project subforum and sends out critique assignments
May 15: Due date for all mandatory critiques
May 16: Sage posts all critiques in the Beta Project subforum

Any questions or comments?

Post 'em here!

All right, go get those manuscripts polished and entries together. Or if you're ready, you can PM me your entry now.
 
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I don't think I'll have anything ready in time for this year's Beta Project, but yaaay, Sage! Thanks for holding it again! I had a lot of fun doing it last year and got a couple of really great beta reads from it. :)
 

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I'm not sure whether I'll be participating this year or not, but I was lucky enough to read some great stuff and make some good friends thanks to this last year. Thanks for putting it together again Sage! :)
 

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I probably sound stupid for asking, but this is a yearly thing, right? I'm asking because I don't remember seeing it in the past few years, which is probably my fault because I'm very unobservant.
 

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I ran it last year, but before that it was like 5 years in between.
 

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Will try to make it for this one!
 

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So I'm debating. My rough draft needs a lot of work, but with two weeks I could get some real progress done. Still, I don't usually let anyone see until I've revised and edited myself about a billion times. But I'd really like to participate. Guess I'll see where I'm at on April 30th and decide. :)
 

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It's a good motivator :D

Also, you technically have 2 weeks after that before the project ends. And you can also put in your notes that you want to make it sparkle before any betas see it or let those that request know when I give you their names.
 
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So I'm debating. My rough draft needs a lot of work, but with two weeks I could get some real progress done. Still, I don't usually let anyone see until I've revised and edited myself about a billion times. But I'd really like to participate. Guess I'll see where I'm at on April 30th and decide. :)
I'm in the same boat as you. This does look like a really good opportunity, though, and I guess it would motivate me to do lots of editing on my novel!
 

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This sounds awesome... why does it have to be May! /selfinvolvedwhine ;-)

I just finished a draft of my novel this week, but my estimated spawn date is May 10, give or take... and if I go early I might not have the energy to finish. :-( Which isn't fair to anyone else so blergh. Maybe next year.

Thanks for running this though, it does sound amazingly useful.
 

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Last year was a great experience (thanks to Sage!). I'm just finishing a first draft, so I might just enter with a note that my WIP is in revisions. Not sure yet, but I will certainly do some critiquing and most likely some beta reading. Looking forward to it!
 

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I'll have to think about it. My WIP is way too rough to submit, it'll be a while before it needs a beta. What I would be interested in seeking betas for would be a short story collection (all same world, some character overlap). Not sure how many people would be interested, though.

Congratulations on your upcoming spawning, Dmbeucler!
 

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Worst case scenario, TAM, you put it up and nobody requests, but you still get crits on the first three pages of whatever story you use in your entry.

Last year there were a lot of people who weren't finished when they entered, and a fair few got requests. Because of the month between the beginning and the end, I think several also finished *during* the time period. At least one person finished before the entering period ended and asked me to revise their entry to reflect that, and another person completely rewrote her entry so that I couldn't recognize the hook and beginning as being the same story. Beta requests won't happen in a vacuum either. Sometimes they're like, "I want to check out the first three chapters first," or "I want to read this when the entrant has edited it," or "I must read these three, but if this 4th person doesn't get any other offers, I'll read theirs too."

Examples of special notes you could add in your "What do you look for in a beta?" section:
- This is a collection of short stories, so I'm hoping that someone who reads shorts will want to look at it.
- I only need "Part 1" looked at, so you'll only be reading half the book.
- I need an alpha reader! If you can overlook my typos and point out the big things, I'd love you for life!
- This is book 2 in a trilogy. If you want to read book 1--already beta'd by many--first, you certainly can, or you can go straight into this book. And, hey, if you want to read book 3 afterwards, I'd probably be okay with that too. (No, I will not be entering, but that's what my entry would look like ;) )

Another thing I remembered from last year is that a few people sent me 2 entries each. You can enter with as many as you want, but for each entry, you will have to critique 3 other entries. So if you send 2 entries, you'll crit 6. If you send 3, you'll crit 9. Please don't make me juggle 12 or more entries for you to crit :D
 

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This is the best thing! Sage the Novel Slayer is a hero.

Last year's Beta Project was huge for me. I cannot be more excited to do another!

People on the fence -- join! Beta-ing is good for the soul, and you will likely have very, very, awesome people looking over your stuff.

SO excited.
 

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Worst case scenario, TAM, you put it up and nobody requests, but you still get crits on the first three pages of whatever story you use in your entry.

This is the best thing! Sage the Novel Slayer is a hero.

Last year's Beta Project was huge for me. I cannot be more excited to do another!

People on the fence -- join! Beta-ing is good for the soul, and you will likely have very, very, awesome people looking over your stuff.

SO excited.

All right, all right, I'm convinced. I'll give it a shot. :)
 

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This sounds like exactly what I need. I've been running the gauntlet of betas and was feeling just about done until a recent critique. With the new revisions I want to make, I needed a new beta, but was worried I had exhausted all my current options. Hopefully I can get my revisions done on time!
 

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Omg, I really want to do this. I'm not sure if I will be ready in time, but maybe this is the push I need to get it done!
 

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I entered last year with a WIP, and the beta readers who offered to read mine were prepared to wait a couple of months until I'd finished and polished my ms. The ones I received feedback from were incredibly helpful.

I don't have anything to submit this year, but I'll be checking out the posts to see if there's anything that catches my eye to beta. :)
 

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I'll have limited internet this weekend, so if you send me an entry and I don't give you an "I got it," don't worry. If after Sunday night, I haven't, nudge me to see if it got lost.
 

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Hmm, I think I might end up entering two novels. I have two that I've been through on my own over and over again. I'm pretty sure I can handle doing six critiques of 750-word sections. I mean, that's barely anything when you really think about it.
 

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Hmm, I think I might end up entering two novels. I have two that I've been through on my own over and over again. I'm pretty sure I can handle doing six critiques of 750-word sections. I mean, that's barely anything when you really think about it.

So long as you don't copy Bing'z Templatez™ :D, something like:
OMGZ that'z so good. Lovely voice. Poetic writing. Smartz characterization. Amazing plot. Picturesque descriptionz. The only improvement I might suggest is to make Ted Cruz more evilz, you know, eviler than Doctor Facilier! All hail Scar!!!! :tongue
 

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Holy crap. Holy crap. Holy crap. *hyperventilates*

Where was I for this last year??? I didn't see this at all!

This sounds really super awesome! I love the idea! I'm so totally doing it, as lately I feel my skills need refining. I mean my crit skills are fine, but there's plenty of my ms that makes mistakes I don't often see in crits.

Yay!
 

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April 15: You must have joined by today to participate. You can enter starting today!

Btw, the first sentence seems to contradict the second? You've make the fifteenth sound like the start date and the due date.
 
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