T.O. Writes a Kids Book - Page 2

oarsman · 10-09-2006, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stormie

Too depressing. I think I'll go drown myself in schnapps.

Anyway, did I miss this and is it horribly true: Madonna's The English Roses book is going to be made into a movie? Don't remember where I heard or read this, and I hope it's not true.

I also read somewhere that Madonna is planning an animated movie of the book and has lined up Britney Spears, Snoop Dogg, and David Bowie to do some of the voices. So, I guess it could be true.

Stormie, don't drown yourself in schnapps...unless you are forced to sit through the movie when it comes out.

K-Mark · 10-09-2006, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Christine N.

Well, T.O. now has a title for his next book...

Little T learns to lose in Philly.

<eg>

I couldn't have put it better myself. Today was awesome!

Bartholomew · 10-09-2006, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rosemerry

Who is he?

I think he's a hockey player.

Soccer Mom · 10-09-2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by K-Mark

I couldn't have put it better myself. Today was awesome!

Let's keep out hate directed at TO and not my Cowboys. Drew Bledsoe hasn't slapped his name on any kiddie projects and Terry Glen has been awesome.

And TO bites. I hate seeing him in the blue and silver.

SHBueche · 10-09-2006, 07:52 PM

Alleycat--Love your alternative titles, they are very clever.

PeeDee · 10-09-2006, 08:31 PM

I like imagining the dialogue inside "Little T. Learns What Not To Say"

Will it read like Jerry Springer?

Little T. looked at his mom. She hit her thumb with a hammer. She said "**** MOTHER****ER!"

"Mommy!" Little T. said "You can't say Mother****er! That's a bad ****ing word! ****!"

"Oh. Oh. You are right, Little T. I am sorry I said Mother****er. I will not say that again. ****, you are a goodboy, Little T!"

A good time was had by all.

Ad Astra · 10-09-2006, 08:49 PM

It still shocks me that the word 'write' was in his vocabulary.

icerose · 10-09-2006, 09:35 PM

Maybe I'm weird but I don't see why any of you care. If they make money for the publisher it = more placement and money for us to have a chance endowed. It means another year that publisher will be around and our books will have that outlet for our creative works.

Who cares. They aren't stopping you from publishing, they aren't filling up your slot, it's up to you and your writing abilities to get you in that slot, not anyone else to move over and make room for you.

Besides, they all use ghost writers, when a celeb's book is published, that means a writer was paid, that means more writers are earning a living. Where is this bad? Besides, he even puts her as a co-writer which means she will earn royalties instead of just a fee.

And if it takes celebs to draw crowds into the bookstores and see the other titles sitting on the shelf and have them grab more than one, that's one more book that might not have sold.

Just my take.

alleycat · 10-09-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by icerose

Maybe I'm weird but I don't see why any of you care.

In this particular case, I think some of us just find it funny having T.O. put his name on a moralizing children's book.

It's a bit like if Jeffrey Dahmer had written a book about how to entertain guests, or O.J. had written a book about overcoming marital problems.

Soccer Mom · 10-09-2006, 09:50 PM

Like the cat says, the humor and snorts are not that a celebrity wrote a children's book. But when Madonna and TO are supposedly teaching morals to the kiddies...well...how could you not snort?

Shadow_Ferret · 10-09-2006, 09:53 PM

It always shocks me how snarky some of you otherwise nice people can be.

Soccer Mom · 10-09-2006, 09:55 PM

Snark. Snark.

The book I want to read is "Little T Learns How to Catch the Friggin Ball."

Can I say friggin in a picture book?

PeeDee · 10-09-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Ferret

It always shocks me how snarky some of you otherwise nice people can be.

Who knows why it still shocks you.

The final book in the series "Little T. Ends It All"

Christine N. · 10-09-2006, 10:56 PM

That's not right.

Soccer Mom · 10-09-2006, 11:00 PM

"Little T and the Bottle of Pills?" (Fantasy story with a foreword by his publicist)

"Little T goes Home?" (It's a horror story)

"Little T and the Big Tantrum?" (This one is non-fiction)

icerose · 10-09-2006, 11:50 PM

Okay, I can certainly see that angle of it, but not the anger toward celebs get published because of status. It's always been that way that someone of note gets pushed to the front of the crowd despite the efforts of those in the crowd. It's annoying but it has very little to no direct impact on you.

Christine N. · 10-10-2006, 12:04 AM

Some celebs actually do write nice children's books.

And some... well, if they were in a slush pile with the rest of us, and they were unknown, they would get the form rejection slip.

That's what irks me - shoddy writing that gets published because of a name, and people buy it because of the name, putting more money in those pockets that don't need it, and other lovely hardworking children's writers who have much better stories and make that their way of earning a living don't get the sale b/c they're NOT a name.

The rest of us need to actually know how to write.

Madonna irritates me on principle, because she is quoted as saying she decided to write children's books because "there aren't any good children's books out there".

So never, EVER, EVER will I consider purchasing a book with her name on it.

K-Mark · 10-10-2006, 01:52 AM

Halfway through the book, little TO goes home crying to do situps because his friend Andy wouldn't give little TO more toys. The book ends when he moves to Dallas any buys a whole bottle of Flinstone vitamins.

Soccer Mom · 10-10-2006, 04:31 AM

Then he cries when the Boys won't play with him.

cwgranny · 10-10-2006, 10:27 PM

Actually, increasingly the celebs are NOT making enough money for publishers to cover the HIGH cost of publishing them. Sure, you get a certain amount of "sure money" when you have a celeb's name on the book -- but they also come with a high price tag since the celeb gets paid far far more than even a multi-published author. And publishers nearly always match the celeb with an expensive illustrator (even when the celeb doesn't let the illustrator's name go on the cover. Plus, expensive promotion -- all equals money that RIGHT NOW is not available for other books. Will it be available for other books in the years to come? Only if the celeb book sells in vast enough numbers to make up for the higher price.

Those high costs come out of a limited money pit -- money spent on a celeb RIGHT NOW is money not spent on a dozen other authors RIGHT NOW. It's not money dropped on the publisher by Santa. So, yes, celebrity books mean fewer worthy books in the hands of kids. Fewer worthy authors published. And ultimately not so good for the publisher's bottom line.

joymark · 10-11-2006, 01:18 AM

Funny thing is that here in the DFW area, a local sportscaster said this about the book(s). (I'm paraphrasing from memory.)

"I wonder when little T. is going to have a talk with big T?"

I just about spit juice all over my keyboard in laughter.

Soccer Mom · 10-11-2006, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by joymark

Funny thing is that here in the DFW area, a local sportscaster said this about the book(s). (I'm paraphrasing from memory.)

"I wonder when little T. is going to have a talk with big T?"

I just about spit juice all over my keyboard in laughter.

That had to be Hansen or Galloway.

joymark · 10-11-2006, 08:52 AM

You'd think Hansen wouldn't you? (I love that guy's perspective on sports!)

It was actually Joe Trahan, from the same station as Hansen.

spike · 10-12-2006, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Ferret

It always shocks me how snarky some of you otherwise nice people can be.

Odd...People are usually shocked at how nice some of us otherwise snarky people can be.

TnTexas · 10-12-2006, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icerose

Maybe I'm weird but I don't see why any of you care. If they make money for the publisher it = more placement and money for us to have a chance endowed. It means another year that publisher will be around and our books will have that outlet for our creative works.

Who cares. They aren't stopping you from publishing, they aren't filling up your slot, it's up to you and your writing abilities to get you in that slot, not anyone else to move over and make room for you.

Besides, they all use ghost writers, when a celeb's book is published, that means a writer was paid, that means more writers are earning a living. Where is this bad? Besides, he even puts her as a co-writer which means she will earn royalties instead of just a fee.

And if it takes celebs to draw crowds into the bookstores and see the other titles sitting on the shelf and have them grab more than one, that's one more book that might not have sold.

Just my take.

Unless the publisher looks at which books brought in the most money during the past year and decides to spend more money on celebrity books and less money on others because the celebrity books are the ones bringing in the most money.

10-09-2006, 07:52 PM	#30
SHBueche What happened to my LIFE?! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,117	Alleycat--Love your alternative titles, they are very clever. __________________ Shelley

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Ad Astra Cok Seviyorum!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In another world, of course Posts: 112	It still shocks me that the word 'write' was in his vocabulary. __________________ "Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -Dr. Seuss (Theodore Geisel) *Finally thirteen!*

10-09-2006, 09:35 PM	#33
icerose Dream Killer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Middle of Nowhere, Utah Posts: 11,535	Maybe I'm weird but I don't see why any of you care. If they make money for the publisher it = more placement and money for us to have a chance endowed. It means another year that publisher will be around and our books will have that outlet for our creative works. Who cares. They aren't stopping you from publishing, they aren't filling up your slot, it's up to you and your writing abilities to get you in that slot, not anyone else to move over and make room for you. Besides, they all use ghost writers, when a celeb's book is published, that means a writer was paid, that means more writers are earning a living. Where is this bad? Besides, he even puts her as a co-writer which means she will earn royalties instead of just a fee. And if it takes celebs to draw crowds into the bookstores and see the other titles sitting on the shelf and have them grab more than one, that's one more book that might not have sold. Just my take. __________________ "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." — Albert Einstein I helped write this!!!!http://www.ibnbattuta.tv/

10-09-2006, 09:50 PM	#35
Soccer Mom Crypto-fascist SuperModerator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Under your couch Posts: 18,624	Like the cat says, the humor and snorts are not that a celebrity wrote a children's book. But when Madonna and TO are supposedly teaching morals to the kiddies...well...how could you not snort? __________________ <clickety to see my books Join us for the Absolute Write-in #AWritein Marguerite Says...Microwave Peanut Butter Fudge I also Twitter & Facebook People think I’m disciplined. It is not discipline. It is devotion. There is a great difference ~Luciano Pavarotti

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10-09-2006, 08:31 PM	#31
PeeDee Where's my tea, please...? Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,740	I like imagining the dialogue inside "Little T. Learns What Not To Say" Will it read like Jerry Springer? Little T. looked at his mom. She hit her thumb with a hammer. She said "** MOTHERER!" "Mommy!" Little T. said "You can't say Motherer! That's a bad ing word! !" "Oh. Oh. You are right, Little T. I am sorry I said Motherer. I will not say that again. **, you are a goodboy, Little T!" A good time was had by all.

10-09-2006, 09:55 PM	#37
Soccer Mom Crypto-fascist SuperModerator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Under your couch Posts: 18,624	Snark. Snark. The book I want to read is "Little T Learns How to Catch the Friggin Ball." Can I say friggin in a picture book? __________________ <clickety to see my books Join us for the Absolute Write-in #AWritein Marguerite Says...Microwave Peanut Butter Fudge I also Twitter & Facebook People think I’m disciplined. It is not discipline. It is devotion. There is a great difference ~Luciano Pavarotti

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Soccer Mom Crypto-fascist SuperModerator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Under your couch Posts: 18,624	"Little T and the Bottle of Pills?" (Fantasy story with a foreword by his publicist) "Little T goes Home?" (It's a horror story) "Little T and the Big Tantrum?" (This one is non-fiction) __________________ <clickety to see my books Join us for the Absolute Write-in #AWritein Marguerite Says...Microwave Peanut Butter Fudge I also Twitter & Facebook People think I’m disciplined. It is not discipline. It is devotion. There is a great difference ~Luciano Pavarotti

10-09-2006, 11:50 PM	#41
icerose Dream Killer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Middle of Nowhere, Utah Posts: 11,535	Okay, I can certainly see that angle of it, but not the anger toward celebs get published because of status. It's always been that way that someone of note gets pushed to the front of the crowd despite the efforts of those in the crowd. It's annoying but it has very little to no direct impact on you. __________________ "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." — Albert Einstein I helped write this!!!!http://www.ibnbattuta.tv/

10-10-2006, 12:04 AM	#42
Christine N. is not the avatar thief Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 7,626	Some celebs actually do write nice children's books. And some... well, if they were in a slush pile with the rest of us, and they were unknown, they would get the form rejection slip. That's what irks me - shoddy writing that gets published because of a name, and people buy it because of the name, putting more money in those pockets that don't need it, and other lovely hardworking children's writers who have much better stories and make that their way of earning a living don't get the sale b/c they're NOT a name. The rest of us need to actually know how to write. Madonna irritates me on principle, because she is quoted as saying she decided to write children's books because "there aren't any good children's books out there". So never, EVER, EVER will I consider purchasing a book with her name on it. __________________ Christine Young Adult Fantasy Author The Sword of Danu (The Library of Athena, Book Four): Get yours TODAY! YA Historical Fantasy/Fairy-Tale Adaptation: Looking for a publisher. I tweet Young Adult Authors You've Never Heard Of Last edited by Christine N.; 10-10-2006 at 12:07 AM.

10-10-2006, 01:52 AM	#43
K-Mark Philly Phanatic Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philly Area Posts: 338	Halfway through the book, little TO goes home crying to do situps because his friend Andy wouldn't give little TO more toys. The book ends when he moves to Dallas any buys a whole bottle of Flinstone vitamins. __________________ *Mark* Want to learn about ETFs? Yours truly is the About.com Guide for Exchange Traded Funds. I'm also the CEO of SEOM Interactive a Philadelphia SEO Company and I tweet at @markkennedysem

10-10-2006, 04:31 AM	#44
Soccer Mom Crypto-fascist SuperModerator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Under your couch Posts: 18,624	Then he cries when the Boys won't play with him. __________________ <clickety to see my books Join us for the Absolute Write-in #AWritein Marguerite Says...Microwave Peanut Butter Fudge I also Twitter & Facebook People think I’m disciplined. It is not discipline. It is devotion. There is a great difference ~Luciano Pavarotti

10-10-2006, 10:27 PM	#45
cwgranny practical experience, FTW Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New England Posts: 335	Actually, increasingly the celebs are NOT making enough money for publishers to cover the HIGH cost of publishing them. Sure, you get a certain amount of "sure money" when you have a celeb's name on the book -- but they also come with a high price tag since the celeb gets paid far far more than even a multi-published author. And publishers nearly always match the celeb with an expensive illustrator (even when the celeb doesn't let the illustrator's name go on the cover. Plus, expensive promotion -- all equals money that RIGHT NOW is not available for other books. Will it be available for other books in the years to come? Only if the celeb book sells in vast enough numbers to make up for the higher price. Those high costs come out of a limited money pit -- money spent on a celeb RIGHT NOW is money not spent on a dozen other authors RIGHT NOW. It's not money dropped on the publisher by Santa. So, yes, celebrity books mean fewer worthy books in the hands of kids. Fewer worthy authors published. And ultimately not so good for the publisher's bottom line.

10-11-2006, 01:18 AM	#46
joymark Author, discipline thyself! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas Posts: 109	Funny thing is that here in the DFW area, a local sportscaster said this about the book(s). (I'm paraphrasing from memory.) "I wonder when little T. is going to have a talk with big T?" I just about spit juice all over my keyboard in laughter. __________________ WIP Novels: The Foundlings: The Swords of Xigara, Book 1 / publishing any day now! Ebook cover and manuscript conversion services: Five J's Design My blog: A Writer's Fantasy

10-11-2006, 08:52 AM	#48
joymark Author, discipline thyself! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas Posts: 109	You'd think Hansen wouldn't you? (I love that guy's perspective on sports!) It was actually Joe Trahan, from the same station as Hansen. __________________ WIP Novels: The Foundlings: The Swords of Xigara, Book 1 / publishing any day now! Ebook cover and manuscript conversion services: Five J's Design My blog: A Writer's Fantasy

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