The Old Neverending PublishAmerica Thread (Publish America)

I like your style ZAZ!
Welcome to the pentagon of the literary army.

By the way, did you get a chance to ask the person how they like their eggs? (scrambled, boiled, over easy?)

Glad you made it over. :snoopy

Die verschwiegenen Gruende der Kostenexplosion:

Unlaengst aeusserte der Vorsitzende des Bayerischen Hausaerzteverbandes, Dr. Wolfgang Hoppenthaller, dass eine grosse Zahl auslaendischer 'Gesundheitstouristen' mit den Chipkarten ihrer Angehoerigen und Freunde bei uns die aerztliche Versorgung in Anspruch nimmt. Der Schaden sei laut Dr. Hoppenthaller 'bestimmt so hoch wie das aktuelle Defizit der Krankenkassen'.

Doch die Kosten dieses Chipkarten-Betruges, den die Gemeinschaft aller Pflichtversicherten zu tragen hat, sind nur ein Grund des sich abzeichnenden Zusammenbruchs der sozialen und gesundheitlichen Versorgungssicherheit. Als Folge sogenannter bilateraler und multilateraler Sozialversicherungsabkommen (Vertraege mit einzelnen oder mehreren Staaten) werden von den Krankenkassen Millionenbetraege an Auslaender gezahlt, die sich in der BRD aufhalten, unabhaengig davon, ob diese hier arbeiten, arbeitslos oder Sozialhilfeempfaenger sind.

Mitversichert sind auch deren Angehoerige, selbst wenn diese getrennt vom Unterhaltspflichtigen und auf Dauer in ihrem Heimatland leben.

Der Kreis der Anspruchsberechtigten richtet sich dabei nicht nach den deutschen, sondern nach den Rechtsvorschriften der Herkunftslaender der Unterhaltspflichtigen. In einigen Laendern bezieht der erweiterte Familienkreis u.a. Eltern und Geschwister mit ein, wie z.B. in der Tuerkei.

Die bekanntlich grosse Kinderzahl und ggf. mehrere Ehefrauen bilden Probleme. Ein zusaetzliches Problem birgt die grosszuegige Geste unserer Regierung, durch Versichertenausweise ohne Lichtbild den Missbrauch zu foerdern. Eine weitere, ausserordentliche Belastung entsteht zudem durch die z.T. erhebliche medizinische Unterversorgung in den Herkunftslaendern.

Abkommen wurden bisher mit folgenden Laendern getroffen: Bosnien-Herzegowina, Bundesrepublik Jugoslawien, Israel, Kroatien, Marokko, Mazedonien, Polen, Schweiz, Slowenien, Tuerkei, Tunesien, Ungarn, Tschechien.

Auch wenn diese Abkommen auf Gegenseitigkeit beruhen sollten, ist hier zweifelsfrei eine deutliche Schieflage feststellbar.

Die vom Gesundheitsministerium mit dem Inkrafttreten der Gesundheitsreform den Aerzten 'verordnete' Medikamentenstreichliste sieht nur noch die Verschreibung von Billigmedikamenten vor.

Diese Regelung gilt nur fuer die stets in die Solidarkassen einzahlenden Kassenpatienten, nicht aber fuer diejenigen, deren Krankheitskosten der Staat bezahlt, fuer Strafgefangene, Asylbewerber und Sozialhilfeempfaenger! Diesen kann der Arzt weiterhin teure 'Original-Medikamente' verschreiben, diese koennen ohne Abstriche oder Zuzahlungen medizinische/zahnmedizinische Leistungen, Krankenhausversorgung, Operationen, Unterbringung in Pflegeheimen etc. in Anspruch nehmen.

Grund: In der Medikamentenstreichliste wurde die staatliche Krankenhilfe schlichtweg 'vergessen'!

Die statistischen Jahrbuecher weisen aus, dass im Jahr 1989 256.000 deutsche Staatsangehoerige, 270.000 Auslaender und im Jahr 1993 250.000 deutsche Staatsangehoerige und 577.000 Auslaender uneingeschraenkte Krankenhilfe aus den Rentenkassen - ausser den 'sonstigen' Sozialhilfeleistungen - erhielten. Dies bedeutet bei den Deutschen in vier Jahren ein geringer Rueckgang, bei den Auslaendern mehr als eine Verdoppelung.
Heute wird die Millionenzahl Anspruchsberechtigter bereits weit ueberschritten sein.

>>>> Kein Wunder, dass die Zahlen seit 1994 nicht mehr veroeffentlicht werden. <<<<


Was schlie_en wir daraus?

Es sind nicht die in die Pflichtkrankenkassen einzahlenden Versicherten, die fuer das zunehmende Defizit sorgen, sondern vorrangig diejenigen, die auf Kosten der Solidargemeinschaft der Versicherten beitragsfrei die Kassen belasten. Eine Gleichbehandlung aller Versicherten im Krankheitsfall wird durch den Gesetzgeber verhindert. Zahlende Kassenpatienten werden medizinisch eindeutig schlechter gestellt als kostenfrei Anspruchsberechtigte.

Es ist typisch, dass der Buerger ueber solche Handlungen nicht, falsch oder nur unzureichend informiert wird und keine Bundestagspartei solche Ursachen der Kostenexplosion zu kritisieren wagt.

By services of WorldLingo.

The discreet reasons of the cost explosion:

Recently the chairman of the Bavarian family doctor federation
expressed, Dr. Wolfgang Hoppenthaller, that a large number takes more foreign ' health tourists up ' with the
smart cards of their members and friends with us the medical supply. The damage is according to Dr. Hoppenthaller ' determines as highly as the current deficit of the
health insurance companies '.

But the costs of this smart card fraud, that the community of all statutory insurees to carry has, is only one reason appearing of the collapse of social and health
supply security. As consequence of so-called bilateral and multilateral social security
agreements (contracts with particulars or several states) of the
health insurance companies amounts of millions at foreigners are
paid, in the FRG are, independently of it, whether these work here, unemployed or people on social security are.

Coinsured is also their member, even if these live in the long term separately from the under
obligation to pay alimony one and in their homeland.

The circle of the rightful ones does not depend thereby on the
Germans, separate after the legislation of the countries of origin of the under
obligation to pay alimony ones. In some countries the extended family circle refers u.A. Parents and brothers and sisters also, like z.B. in Turkey.

The as well known large child number and if necessary. several wives form problems. An additional problem saves the generous gesture of our government, to promote by insuring documents of identification without photo the
abuse. A further, extraordinary load results besides from the z.T. substantial medical Unterversorgung in the countries of origin.

Agreements were met so far with the following countries: Bosnia-Herzegovina, Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Israel, Croatia, Morocco, Macedonia, Poland, Switzerland, Slovenia, Turkey, Tunesien, Hungary, Tschechien.

Even if the present agreements should be based on mutuality, here free of doubts a clear inclination can be recognized.

Of the Ministry of Health with the entry into force of the health
reform for the physicians ' ordered ' medicine caper list plans only
using up of cheap medicines.

This regulation applies only to the cash patients always depositing
into the Solidarkassen, not however for those, their disease costs the state pays, for convicts, Asylum-seeker and person on social security! The physician can use up these further expensive ' original medicines
', these can without reductions or additional payments medicaltooth-medical achievements, Hospital supply, Operations, Accommodation in nursing homes etc.. take up.

Reason: In the medicine caper list the national krankenhilfe ' was forgotten '
directly!

The statistic yearbooks prove, that in the year 1989 256,000 German citizens, 270,000 foreigners and in the year 1993 250,000 German citizens and
577,000 foreigners unrestricted krankenhilfe from the pension schemes
- except the ' other ' social welfare assistance achievements -
received. This means with the Germans in four years a small decrease, with the foreigners more than a duplication.
Today the million-number will be already far exceeded rightful.

> > > > no miracle, that the numbers since 1994 not to be no more published. <<<<


What schlie_en do we from it?

The insured ones depositing into the obligation health insurance
companies are not, for the increasing deficit provide, separate with priority those, at expense the solvent bad A shank of the insured ones noncontributory
the cashes load. An equal treatment of all insured ones in the medical case is
prevented by the legislator. Paying cash patients are medically clearly more badly placed than free
of charge rightful ones.

It is typical, that the citizen over such actions not, wrongly or only insufficiently and no Bundestag party such causes of
the cost explosion is informed to criticize dares.

Why on EARTH would someone send that to me???? Bizzar!

Thank you for the friendly welcome(s) and the long-winded dissertation about something to do with German pension funds.

I feel a new found freedom away from the evils of the PA message boards. As in, maybe, just maybe, I won't ever have to wonder just what kind of eggs whatsherface was really sucking.

I won't ever have to wonder just what kind of eggs whatsherface was really sucking.

Big ol' POD People eggs, maybe?

I won't ever have to wonder just what kind of eggs whatsherface was really sucking.

Good heavens, Becca! Somebody e-mailed you that? That IS bizarre. We KNOW some people who speak the language, but I can't imagine what the point would be.

Why on EARTH would someone send that to me????

It's spam, Beck.

May I recommend <a href="http://popfile.sourceforge.net/" target="_new">Popfile</a> as a spam filter?

Hey Beck, why don't you send it to P.A. They'll probably publish it.
Its already been edited so they shouldn't have any problems......

Remember when SPAM was this cheap, useless stuff that left a bad taste in your mouth and left you sick for days... and ... and... ah.. .well guess not much has changed......


CHEERS:cheers

I was floored with this response.
www.publishamerica.com/cg.../11148.htm

I have not edited the post even though it contains some of the same propaganda by PublishAmerica. Go to the last paragraph.

Begin Post:
Yes, good luck. My first novel has been published for over a year now and I have had ZILCH luck even getting bookstores to schedule a book signing, let alone carry it on the shelves. They don't want to put it one the shelves because it is non-returnable.

My second novel is due out soon.

I heard about the imprint comany that PA made a deal with to make books retrunable after 500 copies are sold, so I was thinking of purchasing 500 copies myself, but by the looks of the email I recieved from PA, there would still be no guarentee that the books would be on the shelf.

I wrote PA with the idea and here is their reply:

Thank you for your email. I believe you are referring to our Independence Book imprint. All books which sell at least 500 copies are then reviewed for inclusion in the Independence Book imprint. Not every book which sells 500 copies or more becomes an Independence Book.

One of the key ingredients of the imprint is that the books will become returnable. This does not guarantee that book stores will stock the books.

No publisher guarantees book sales to bookstores.

PublishAmerica books have the same chance of making it onto a bookstore shelf as do the books of any publisher. It may be of interest that less than one percent of all authors ever see their books stocked by bookstores at all. For bookstores to stock all books published would mean adding 15 feet of new shelf space each and every day.

Therefore bookstore managers must be selective, so they decide based on what that they think will sell. If they do think it will sell, they will stock it, and vice versa. So, if your book is romance and the store's shelves are overflowing with romance novels, the odds are they won't stock it. And, if your book is a history of agriculture in Tupelo County,
Mississippi, the bookstore manager in Seattle may feel the same way.

Bookstores will generally stock a book that they think will sell,
regardless of whether it is returnable or not, and regardless of whether it is printed on digital or offset presses.

We suggest that you purchase the books directly through Barnes & Noble if you are to buy 500 copies. This will give you the best chance of them possibly stocking the book. Of course, we cannot guarantee that purchasing the books will result in your books being stocked.

Thank you,
Author Support Team
support@publishamerica.com
************************
ENd

Dee
www.BrianHillAndDeePower.com

:jaw :wha

fricking priceless...

step up and get a clue, folks...

No publisher guarantees book sales to bookstores.

They may not, but the publisher actually does the work to get them shelved, not authors.

We suggest that you purchase the books directly through Barnes & Noble if you are to buy 500 copies. This will give you the best chance of them possibly stocking the book. Of course, we cannot guarantee that purchasing the books will result in your books being stocked.

:jaw

Please tell me people won't do something crazy like this to get the "Independence" imprint! BBB, FTC, reporters, are you watching? This is NOT something a "traditional" publisher would say!

fricking priceless...

Ditto. That's got to be one of the stupidest "suggestions" I've ever heard. I just hope nobody takes it seriously and does it.

Oh, and the language of that "reply?" I've seen the exact same wording very recently in some of PA's replies to various people. If nothing else, PA is the master of cut-and-paste.

So far, not one PA author or representative has emailed me with the name of a single bookstore that orders and stocks PA books on their shelves. Maybe PA is trying to get just one bookstore to order the books based on receiving a large order?

Jumping in here. I've been reading these boards for a while and finally joined up. I'm an unhappy (putting it mildly) PA author who has recently been banned from the boards. My book is Follow Your Heart, and has been out since 2002. I see some familiar names here, and am glad to be aboard. I've just finished a second book that I have co-authored with a friend in New York. Since I'll never go back to PA, I'm looking for an agent at the moment. :-) I wanted to say hello to everyone, and say hey to Zaz, I'm glad to see you here buddy, I've missed your sense of humor!

I've been reading these boards for a while and finally joined up. I'm an unhappy (putting it mildly) PA author who has recently been banned from the boards. My book is Follow Your Heart, and has been out since 2002. I see some familiar names here, and am glad to be aboard. I've just finished a second book that I have co-authored with a friend in New York. Since I'll never go back to PA, I'm looking for an agent at the moment.

Hey, it's good to see you here. There are many other facets to this site. Since you're in the market for an agent, be sure to take a look at the many threads here having to do with agents. Good luck!

Greetings,

PA'er here. Glad to see Zaz and signs of life about on this forum. I haven't quite been banned from the PA board yet, but it's coming. Just signed deal for second novel with a large traditional publisher, so. PA tends to hold grudges. My favorite PA moment is an email they sent me after I made a somewhat insulting remark about them on the public message board. I was politely informed I had the permission to apologize at my leisure.
I was pretty much eyes open when I signed with PA, so I don't have any regrets there, save one. Shortly after signing and looking through the boards, etc, I started to fear I might be one of the very few real writers in the group. I do feel they take advantage of the masses but I haven't the time to challenge them.

Anyway. Suck eggs, indeed!

I haven't quite been banned from the PA board yet, but it's coming. Just signed deal for second novel with a large traditional publisher, so. PA tends to hold grudges. My favorite PA moment is an email they sent me after I made a somewhat insulting remark about them on the public message board. I was politely informed I had the permission to apologize at my leisure.

So -- did you do it? Apologize, that is. Congratulations on landing a real publisher for your next novel. That in itself is enough to get one banned from PA's boards. PA does, in fact, have some good writers onboard, albeit many of the good ones landed there accidentally. With perserverance, strong writing skills, and a little good luck thrown in for good measure, the good ones will move on from the PA quagmire.

Newcomers please join our petition to investigate PA. We now are in the hundreds of authors exiled from PA's alleged illegal practices. Contact me direct to become a unique band of authors who seek full disclosure from PA and justice.

RebeccaEaston@Comcast.net

I certainly did not apologise.

There is something else you might want to consider doing besides signing Rebecca's petition. Contact me at authors@brianhillanddeepower.com

Dee
www.BrianHillAndDeePower.com

<img border=0 src="http://www.absolutewrite.com/images/EmoteROFL.gif" />Rebecca…in the hundreds you say? This is absolutely wonderful! This is sure to bring attention.

Dee, I’ve completed my letter and have it ready to send. I’ll probably have to send it tonight, however, as I’ll be working dayshift tomorrow and won’t get home until around 7:00 P.M.

As a last resort to get my rights back from PA, I’m going to go ahead and contact Lynn Price’s attorney…that should take care of everything else.

<img border=0 src="http://www.absolutewrite.com/images/emoteHammer.gif" />Ten years spent writing two books is much too many years of my life down the drain if I do nothing but allow my work to remain hidden in the PA vault of horror. What good is that? Sheesh.

what you folks mean when you call PA authors illiterate. thanks.