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Anyone ever heard of Roval Publishing? If so, thoughts? I can't find any information about them out there and I'm wondering if they're a trustworthy publisher, a POD publisher, etc. Thanks!
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Hi CaliGirl and welcome to AW
![]() This is definitely POD, and definitely vanity, if you're talking about: http://www.rovalpublishing.net/ How decent they are, I have no idea. |
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Well, they've apparently agreed to publish an obviously plagiarized work, so I wouldn't consider them a very good option.
For more information, including links to the "new" version: http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2007...r-plagairists/ Here's the original work: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...45494788&itm=4, scroll through to the first page of the story. Sorry if this is an inappropriate post here, but it seemed worth mentioning. Last edited by absitinvidia; 10-11-2007 at 10:50 PM. Reason: clear up wording. |
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Roval Publishing is, based on my reading of their Marketing Guide (a free download at Lulu.com) an utter waste of time and money.
They have one book published so far, and they've printed it via Lulu. What the foo the author needed them for, I don't know. He could have saved himself some time, money, and mockery by going to Lulu directly. Back to their marketing guide: They sell bunches of services. These include business cards at $79 for 150, bookmarks at $79 for 100, and postcards at $199 for 100. They'll send spam e-mail at $995 plus $495/month for a half-a-million addresses. Wait, there's more! If you manage to sell 3,000 copies of your Roval book (and, at the same time, the Devil goes ice-skating and you have to carry an umbrella because of the flying pigs) they'll become your agent! That's right, they'll make sure a legitimate publisher picks up your book and they'll do it for free! These guys are, in my opinion, somewhere between clueless and scum. Stay very far away.
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A "book publisher" that does business cards--class act all right. *nod nod*
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Jim,
Were you aware that the bulk of the text used to sell their book review service came from here and here? I didn't download the entire file, so perhaps he acknowledges sources - as this site did. There is no evidence of that in the preview. Then perhaps he considers it fair use, or simply homage. Oy.
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Not a good record, even for POD self-publishing vanity operations.
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Heck, I can print 1250 myself for $10, just by buying a ream of cardstock. It's not hard to make bookmarks if you know how to set up a table in Word.
Sheesh!
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Oh, man, anyone got any popcorn? I'm going to need a lot.
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While the fellow who wrote Responsible Marketing may (and bloody-well ought to) come to regret his choice of publisher, it's the publisher itself and its Marketing Guide that I want to look at.
Look at some of their services and prices: Quote:
Let's see, what else does Roval offer? Quote:
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--------------------- * That's the punchline to a story. A man was condemned to death by Caesar. He threw himself on the ground and said, "Mighty Caesar, if you will but spare my life for one year, I will teach your horse to talk!" Caesar, intrigued, said, "Very well. You shall have the year. But if at the end of that time my horse does not speak you will surely die." The man went off. Soon after he was met by a friend who said, "What were you thinking of? You don't know how to teach a horse to talk any more than I do." The man replied, "That is true, but many things may happen in a year. I may die. Caesar may die. The horse may die. Or, perhaps, the horse may talk."
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The thief offered to teach the king's favorite horse to sing a hymn of praise to Ahuru Mazda. The end line is pretty much the same: "Perhaps the horse will learn to sing!" Regards, Scott
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I'm sure somewhere in little print there's a (per store) in there.
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[quote=CaliGirl85;1713922]Anyone ever heard of Roval Publishing? If so, thoughts? I can't find any information about them out there and I'm wondering if they're a trustworthy publisher, a POD publisher, etc. Thanks!
CaliGirl85[/quote So thats how the quote button works.... But Seriously, on another thread under share your work in the childrens category people were talking alot about childrens literary Agency and I wrote a message about roval publishing and xlibris giving some very good and useful info about them. I also spoke of how I went about publishing my own childrens books right down to the perfect glue binding. And it cost alot less than the print on demand and vanity publishers. If you want to know more info then let me know cause now I can't find even the post I wrote, or anything that the other people wrote about that childrens literacy agency. Does anyone know how it disappeared or how I can find it if it is still there? Well Happy Writing! God Bless |
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http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/...t=8286&page=10 Roval is a pay-to-play publisher and not a good option if one were to choose to use a pay-to-play publisher. A much better option would be Lulu.com.
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Especially since they appear to use Lulu as a printer and mark their services up considerably.
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I just perused this publisher's web site. They need to have a talk with their copywriter - before another POD publisher or two has a talk with them.
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Courtesy of comment #990 by JulieB on this Making List entry, we have:
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Oh there's much more. But I found it odd that they were lifting material directly from PA's site.
Oh, perhaps not ODD. After all, they're still in business, so why not pay homage to a company that seems to be raking in the bucks. Only be sure to always call it, please, "research."
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Roval has updated their site. Primary on their About Us page: "Roval is not vanity publishing or a self publishing company".
The cognitive dissonance make head go blooey.
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Especially when right there on the first page is a listing of their packages and prices. Sheesh.
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