Plagiarisim train wreck in progress

estermish · 10-12-2007, 02:08 AM

Check out Lanaia Lee. She has some problems. The biggest being that she took a book that was already published changed some of the names, changed the title and self pubbed it.

Yes.

She self published it.

Here is the blog where I first heard about it. And if this is a redundant post I apologize.

WendyNYC · 10-12-2007, 02:16 AM

Jeez. She could have at least changed a word here and there.

That takes some chutzpah.

Bubastes · 10-12-2007, 02:16 AM

She (or her ghost writer) didn't even manage to change the names all the way through. The name "Alexander" still shows up in the changed version.

And I'm not sure if she knew she self-pubbed it. She used an "agent" whose sales were to PublishAmerica.

If she's actually the victim of multiple scammers, I feel sorry for her.

Koobie · 10-12-2007, 02:18 AM

That's very durrrrrrrrr. Also, I generally get bloody annoyed by the mini-bios people write about themselves in 3rd person.

skelly · 10-12-2007, 02:37 AM

I don't know why she doesn't take down her web site...she's getting trashed in her own little message board and chat-box thingie. It's an awful thing to see...

Tish Davidson · 10-12-2007, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MeowGirl

She (or her ghost writer) didn't even manage to change the names all the way through. The name "Alexander" still shows up in the changed version.

And I'm not sure if she knew she self-pubbed it. She used an "agent" whose sales were to PublishAmerica.

If she's actually the victim of multiple scammers, I feel sorry for her.

If she submitted it, she must have known it was plagiarized, regardless of whether her "agent" or "publisher" scammed her.

Monkey · 10-12-2007, 02:50 AM

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Of Atlantis is totally mine. I have the original manuscript, and witnesses to my work. I put two years of my life in this book, the copy right, I own. I am appalled some one would think I am that dishonesy!

That says it all, I think.

I do pity this sad woman, bound to her wheelchair, mourning the loss of ten children, raised by a dark witch, trying to gain some sort of validation by stealing other people's work.

How very sad.

estermish · 10-12-2007, 02:54 AM

Like her physical issues change the fact that she is a thief.

WittyandorIronic · 10-12-2007, 03:00 AM

All I can say is, Wow!
Although some of the comments on Dear Author are incredibly funny, I agree with the last ones.
1) She is either a delusional and/or incredibly gullible woman who got suckered several times over (In which case, I still have very little sympathy) OR
2) She is a raving scam artist who has abused another authors work, and offended every person even remotely connected with wheel chairs, children, stroke victims, married people, hypertension disorders, females, males, people who can read, and/or jack russell terrier owners.
That's a pretty big list to accomplish in one fell swoop.

wee · 10-12-2007, 03:09 AM

I love this from the "Top Ten" comments:

Quote:

If she writes from the heart, her heart must beat like this: CTRL + C, CTRL + V, CTRL + C, CTRL + V…

There is also some suggestion in the comments that Janet Dailey's work has the hint of plagiarism to it?

??!

wee

estermish · 10-12-2007, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WittyandorIronic

All I can say is, Wow!
Although some of the comments on Dear Author are incredibly funny, I agree with the last ones.
1) She is either a delusional and/or incredibly gullible woman who got suckered several times over (In which case, I still have very little sympathy) OR
2) She is a raving scam artist who has abused another authors work, and offended every person even remotely connected with wheel chairs, children, stroke victims, married people, hypertension disorders, females, males, people who can read, and/or jack russell terrier owners.
That's a pretty big list to accomplish in one fell swoop.

**snerk**

I don't see what the point is. What gain can you have, especially in plagiarizing such a well known author.

aadams73 · 10-12-2007, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wee

There is also some suggestion in the comments that Janet Dailey's work has the hint of plagiarism to it?

She totally ripped off Nora Roberts a while back.

WittyandorIronic · 10-12-2007, 03:16 AM

Wait...oh god(dess). They just added Wiccans to the mix...
See...before it was just a general "i'm disgusted to be in the same Genus as you" seeing as I don't own any jack russell terriers.... but now. Now, it's personal.

estermish · 10-12-2007, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WittyandorIronic

Wait...oh god(dess). They just added Wiccans to the mix...
See...before it was just a general "i'm disgusted to be in the same Genus as you" seeing as I don't own any jack russell terriers.... but now. Now, it's personal.

what? where?

I missed that one...

shakeysix · 10-12-2007, 03:17 AM

i am female, have hypertension, own a jack russel terrier and am preparing to be offended!--s6

wee · 10-12-2007, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by aadams73

She totally ripped off Nora Roberts a while back.

See, I had no idea who she was. LOL. Now I know she has mental problems:
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a

Wish I could blame all my weird behavior on never-before-heard-of mental problems, but unfortunately, I'm just responsible. And I'm sorry. 'sniff.

wee · 10-12-2007, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by shakeysix

i am female, have hypertension, own a jack russel terrier and am preparing to be offended!--s6

And quit dogging me or I'll have another stroke & there'll be blood on your hands!

wee

PS -- so sorry! I plagiarized that poor woman. Please ignore my above comment. (taken from above link)

Pat~ · 10-12-2007, 03:21 AM

This is truly sad, though there is a strong possibility that her stroke may have left her a bit mentally disabled as well. That might account for the lack of touch with reality she seems to evidence.

Monkey · 10-12-2007, 03:22 AM

From her website:

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Welcome to the realm of Dark Poet Lanaia Lee. You will find on this page samples of her works, be able to purchase her books and much much more. Dare you venture into this place? Will you hear the tortured cries for help? The woeful pleading? Or the agonizing screams that will surround you at every turn? Prepare to engulf yourself into a world where Edgar Allan Poe still lives. Could Lanaia be Poes female reincarnation? Journey with us into the dark side, let us take leave of our bright, light filled world and allow Lanaia Lee to be our tour guide as we travel though realms unknown. Will we return? Can we return? Perhaps, perhaps nevermore.........

This site doesn't mention "Of Atlantis", which is wise. It's filled with poetry that I'm willing to bet is NOT plagarized. Perhaps it really was all the ghost-writer's fault.

The message board at the site linked is filled with hate mail, and the message boards at her private site are filled with spam. She's been outed, and could face charges...though I kind of doubt it.

I think the interesting part of the train wreck is probably over.

WittyandorIronic · 10-12-2007, 03:24 AM

From DearAuthor.com:
"Velma
Posted: Oct 11th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
112

Things are getting more interesting: her publisher is apparently incapable of telling the difference between your blog and Making Light, and is now threatening you with lawsuits and “wiccan” tenfold retaliation there. It doesn’t bode well for Lee or Pillsbury."

God(dess)...somedays it is hard to know I share the same breath as these people, let alone that we check the same box on the religion questionnaire.... Someone really needs to come up with a way to excommunicate Wiccans from the path... Ya' know, so we could all point and say, "She was too crazy for us, sorry. You can have her back."

dolores haze · 10-12-2007, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeowGirl

She (or her ghost writer) didn't even manage to change the names all the way through. The name "Alexander" still shows up in the changed version.

And I'm not sure if she knew she self-pubbed it. She used an "agent" whose sales were to PublishAmerica.

If she's actually the victim of multiple scammers, I feel sorry for her.

I'm leaning towards believing that this woman got totally scammed.

WittyandorIronic · 10-12-2007, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wee

And quit dogging me or I'll have another stroke & there'll be blood on your hands!

that's Mt. Blood to you, missy

Monkey · 10-12-2007, 03:33 AM

Quote:

I think the interesting part of the train wreck is probably over.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WittyandorIronic

Things are getting more interesting: her publisher is apparently incapable of telling the difference between your blog and Making Light, and is now threatening you with lawsuits and “wiccan” tenfold retaliation there. It doesn’t bode well for Lee or Pillsbury."

I stand corrected.

Bubastes · 10-12-2007, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dolores haze

I'm leaning towards believing that this woman got totally scammed.

Scammed twice. That is just so wrong.

Monkey · 10-12-2007, 03:38 AM

It just occurred to me that MeowGirl's tag line applies *even more* to plagiarized work, but in a different way...

10-12-2007, 02:08 AM	#1
estermish Comfortable with my insanity Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 751	Plagiarisim train wreck in progress Check out Lanaia Lee. She has some problems. The biggest being that she took a book that was already published changed some of the names, changed the title and self pubbed it. Yes. She self published it. Here is the blog where I first heard about it. And if this is a redundant post I apologize. __________________ Current WIP: Crossroads (take 3) 41932/90000 Subs: 1 Reject: 1 http://estermish.wordpress.com/ dragonmyst.livejournal.com

10-12-2007, 02:16 AM	#3
Bubastes shocked kitteh iz shocked Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Far from a beach, writing beach reads. Posts: 4,473	She (or her ghost writer) didn't even manage to change the names all the way through. The name "Alexander" still shows up in the changed version. And I'm not sure if she knew she self-pubbed it. She used an "agent" whose sales were to PublishAmerica. If she's actually the victim of multiple scammers, I feel sorry for her. __________________ Perseverance trumps talent. -- Daniel Pink *"Good enough" isn't. -- Bub's music teacher* This week's goal: Reach 40K on novel (TUTH) WIPs: Novel (TUTH): 28671/90000 (first draft) Short story (FLSC-TR): 0/6000 (first draft) Last edited by Bubastes; 10-12-2007 at 02:19 AM.

10-12-2007, 02:18 AM	#4
Koobie Super Duper Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 480	That's very durrrrrrrrr. Also, I generally get bloody annoyed by the mini-bios people write about themselves in 3rd person. __________________

10-12-2007, 02:37 AM	#5
skelly Kickin it old school, posers beware Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Through the looking glass. Posts: 2,038	I don't know why she doesn't take down her web site...she's getting trashed in her own little message board and chat-box thingie. It's an awful thing to see... __________________ ---Scott the void sprocket

10-12-2007, 02:54 AM	#8
estermish Comfortable with my insanity Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 751	Like her physical issues change the fact that she is a thief. __________________ Current WIP: Crossroads (take 3) 41932/90000 Subs: 1 Reject: 1 http://estermish.wordpress.com/ dragonmyst.livejournal.com

10-12-2007, 02:16 AM	#2
WendyNYC Eats bon bons all day Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 3,052	Jeez. She could have at least changed a word here and there. That takes some chutzpah.

10-12-2007, 03:00 AM	#9
WittyandorIronic AW Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 837	All I can say is, Wow! Although some of the comments on Dear Author are incredibly funny, I agree with the last ones. 1) She is either a delusional and/or incredibly gullible woman who got suckered several times over (In which case, I still have very little sympathy) OR 2) She is a raving scam artist who has abused another authors work, and offended every person even remotely connected with wheel chairs, children, stroke victims, married people, hypertension disorders, females, males, people who can read, and/or jack russell terrier owners. That's a pretty big list to accomplish in one fell swoop. __________________

10-12-2007, 03:16 AM	#13
WittyandorIronic AW Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 837	Wait...oh god(dess). They just added Wiccans to the mix... See...before it was just a general "i'm disgusted to be in the same Genus as you" seeing as I don't own any jack russell terriers.... but now. Now, it's personal. __________________

10-12-2007, 03:17 AM	#15
shakeysix What happened to my LIFE?! Join Date: May 2007 Location: western kansas Posts: 3,257	i am female, have hypertension, own a jack russel terrier and am preparing to be offended!--s6 __________________ what a day for a daydream

10-12-2007, 03:21 AM	#18
Pat~ Luftmensch Emeritus, A.D.D. AW Mod Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,533	This is truly sad, though there is a strong possibility that her stroke may have left her a bit mentally disabled as well. That might account for the lack of touch with reality she seems to evidence.

10-12-2007, 03:24 AM	#20
WittyandorIronic AW Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 837	From DearAuthor.com: "Velma Posted: Oct 11th, 2007 at 4:18 pm 112 Things are getting more interesting: her publisher is apparently incapable of telling the difference between your blog and Making Light, and is now threatening you with lawsuits and “wiccan” tenfold retaliation there. It doesn’t bode well for Lee or Pillsbury." God(dess)...somedays it is hard to know I share the same breath as these people, let alone that we check the same box on the religion questionnaire.... Someone really needs to come up with a way to excommunicate Wiccans from the path... Ya' know, so we could all point and say, "She was too crazy for us, sorry. You can have her back." __________________

10-12-2007, 03:38 AM	#25
Monkey Offline Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Missing you all... Posts: 2,740	It just occurred to me that MeowGirl's tag line applies even more to plagiarized work, but in a different way...

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