Origins of a Screenwriter

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When and how did you know that you wanted to be a screenwriter?

List 5 films or TV shows from child or adulthood that you feel were most influential in shaping your interest.

What was it about these choices that affected you so much?

Were there any other influences (family, jobs, school) that set you on your course?



(will answer these myself later after I've had a think.)
 
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When and how did you know that you wanted to be a screenwriter?

Freshman year of college. The first day of the second semester, I started writing my first script. I finished the first draft by the end of the semester. Of course, I was also editing as I went, so the beginning was edited a lot, and progressively less during that semester. I totally polished it the following summer.

I've always been a movie guy. Worked at a video store and movie theater in my youth.

(Those next questions are tougher.)
 
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Grew up in a family of TV-holics including one older brother who was already an aspiring filmmaker (when I was 7 he was shooting Super 8 stuff in the back yard). My brother would sit and watch TV with the whole family and he would point out in great detail all of the camera tricks that were taking place. To this day I still can't watch a film without sussing out the SFX like he showed me. Star Wars and Jaws and Indiana Jones were all heavy influences. And constantly listening to my brother prattle on and on about film and film tehcnique was also very critical.

When I was 11 I got very turned on by Tolkien's work and was so enamored with his writing that I began writing my own stuff (and my stuff was very long and baroque like Tolkien's). I was a veritable writing machine, once staying up all night (at the age of 12) to finish a story. I handed in one of my stories to my 6th grade English teacher and she immediately called a conference with my mother saying I needed to go into special writing classes for gifted kids.

My writing fell by the wayside during my teen years, but I kept gravitating more and more toward film, even though I did not know how to write a script. I tried to write a script with my manual typewriter, and I even copied AV formatting I had seen once with one colum for audio and one for video, but it was VERY difficult and I gave up. I spoke to my guidance counselor and he said USC was the best place to go for film school, so I sent away for USC literature.

I meandered far far away from writing and went to college for an educational degree instead of film studies, but writing just kept knocking on the door of my soul. Then six years ago I couldn't take it anymore and I bought my first computer and bought Final Draft and just started writing. But I didn't know what I was doing so I got on a message forum (kinda like this one) and started asking: "What kind of books should I read to self-educate?" and they all recommended some great books. I dropped almost $400.00 at Barnes and Noble that week and started reading. I also began paying ravenous attention to DVD extras.

I took a 4-Saturday screewriting workshop at a local community center (very good film professor) and learned a lot. I was seeing no less than three films in the theatres per week at that point, as well as renting from Blockbuster all the time. And I was writing stuff.

I still stay up all night writing at times. To paraphrase Straczynski: writing is the only thing a writer can do well and do in large amounts and do consistently and even endlessly and (most importantly) do happily.
 

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I wanted to be a writer since I was about 12, and acted on it. Started my first novel. After my Publish America experience at 19 I needed to switch gears so I started dabbling. Kind of ironic how my first steady checks come from script writing rather than novel writing. Of course that kind of is expected when you don't submit anything in book form for five years, but I'm changing that too.
 

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Well, if we're going beyond scriptwriting, I attempted my first book in middle school. And, actually, technically, my first videotaping and editing was probably around the same time.
 

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Warning - Long-ass post

Many, many apologies for length. Feel free to skim, ignore at will but I sincerely hope the rest of the regulars at this particular AW outpost will contribute here even if only briefly. We can answer newbie questions about page counts and dos and don'ts until the end of time but we hardly ever talk about the good stuff that brought us here and I, for one, would really like to hear your stories. Thanks to PD, Livin and ice.

So. The reason I started this thread was because I read an interview with a filmmaker who was sourcing his major influences and it seemed, like every other person on the planet, this guy's seminal movie "wow" moment was Star Wars (yes, the shot with the ship coming over the camera right at the beginning.) This was troubling to me because this was not a seminal moment for me. I was probably in my mid-teens before I saw Star Wars and even then it was buried on a satellite classic channel. So it got me thinking, what was it that shaped me?

The first film I can ever remember seeing is Jaws. It was in Saudi Arabia, where I lived for a brief time when I was about 3-5. I know I didn't watch the whole thing but I clearly remember the "show me the way to go home" scene in all its vivid detail.

And remembering that, I kept getting flashes of watching Jaws throughout my life. Watching it with my mum at eight, badgering her about Quint's death (is it now? when is it?) I remember watching it when it was finally syndicated on Sky Movies and shown ad nauseum - also the time of my first VHS, long-play, pan and scanned, mono copy of my very own.

And finally I remember buying it on DVD in 2000 from a Toys R Us in Orlando, Florida - which also opened my eyes to the wonderful world of widescreen - who knew my VHS copy of Jaws was only half a movie?!

I think Jaws is probably in my top five "most watched" films in that I've lost track of how many times I've seen it. These days I'm not a Jaws nerd - I don't fare very well on the "Get out of the water trivia game" found on the DVD bonus features but I feel like that film is a part of me in that... John Williams' entire score is on a hard disk in my head. I intuitively feel each and every cut as and when it's about to happen.

Sometimes I put on stupid little scenes like the ferry scene where Brody crosses the bay with the mayor to intercept the swimming boy scouts, purely to marvel at how it's shot in one take with a locked off camera that somehow still manages to go from a wide to a medium to a close up through the choreography of the actors alone and I watch it and think, "Was it difficult to think up that or does it come easily for someone like Spielberg?" There isn't a frame in Jaws that I don't adore. There isn't a piece of information via the dialogue, editing, pace, whatever, that I feel I'm not receptive to. I feel like it's *my* film.

So there's Jaws. But Jaws wasn't released when I was a kid. It had been out forever and I was playing catch-up. But there was a seminal film during my early teens that absolutely shaped me as a screenwriter. And I didn't even get to see it in the cinema.

At the time I had gone with my brother to see Costner's 'Robin Hood; Prince of Thieves,' a little tame by today's standards but a pretty damn good example for me of that pure joyous, cinematic entertainment I'd always loved. But the experience of watching the film was slightly off-set by a trailer for Terminator 2 that was shown before Robin Hood started which, for the rest of the film, I just couldn't get out of my head. It was action-packed and full of wonderful, weird imagery - I mean, what the hell was that silver, metal dude anyway?

Alas, the film was a certificate 15 and I was 12. Fortunately, by the time it was released on tape, it had lost none of its impact. I remember those days very clearly. We live in a small town and at the time, for a film like Terminator 2, there would have been maybe fifteen copies in the whole town. I remember it being talked about in class, "Did you see this film? Oh man, you have GOT to see this film." It was actually about the same time that Pulp Fiction was released which had a similar stirring effect on the classroom.

Quick aside - film certifications meant nothing to my parents for reasons I haven't yet bothered to ask them. I grew up on Freddy and Jason, Hammer Horror, Paul Verhoven, John McClane, Dirty Harry, Sergio Leonne and I'm happy to say that I am (so far) not royally fucked up by seeing Kenny pounded into strawberry jam by ED-209 or Dustin Hoffman having his teeth ripped out in Marathon Man so renting Pulp Fiction or Terminator 2 and sharing it with the kiddies wasn't a big deal for the folks.

Anyway, it took a while before we were able to get our hands on a copy of Terminator 2 but finally, it came and yes, it was just about the most exciting thing I'd ever seen. Here was a world that was full and rich and unrelenting. I'd seen the original Terminator but kind of put in the same drawer as the Friday the 13th films - at that age I wasn't old enough to appreciate the sophistication of sentient technology running amok.

T2 stayed with me for a long, long time. I knew it had stirred something creative in me but I had no idea what it was at the time. About the same time, a series of books started circulating at school under the banner of "Point Horror." These were teenage stories about serial killers and ghosts called very lame things like “The Cheerleader” and “Hit & Run,” that were really just about offing hapless teenagers and something you could quietly read in a double history. I read a couple and thought they were OK but the rest of the class just couldn't get enough of them. I didn't understand why they were wasting their time on this trash while T2 was doing the rounds.

It annoyed me so much that I decided to write my own entries in the Point Horror series. I wrote three 'books,' hand-written on A4 paper, folded in half and stapled (meaning you had to guess the page count and write to fit that accordingly) and passed them around class. I even had a manager who would write the blurb on the back and Crayola a bit of nasty artwork for the front cover. I wrote the schlockiest, blandest, most trashy crap I could come up with, full of gore and murder and the kids ate it up with a spoon - I was a writer. But despite my creative urges being somewhat fulfilled by writing this nonsense, it didn't feel like it was enough. It didn’t feel Important because although I saw the images in my head, words on the page just didn't feel like enough. I wanted others to SEE it.

About a week later, I got a book that changed everything. I'd seen it in a newsagent which sold graphic novels and those plastic Halcyon models of the drop ship and the APC from the Aliens film. I didn't know what the book was except that it had the T2 poster on the cover and anything involving T2, I had to have. It was there when I came home from school one day and opening it up, I found it to be this - the illustrated screenplay.

Essentially, it's the shooting script on one side of the page with five or six still frame photos on the other side, corresponding to those words. I had no idea then what a script was but it didn't take long for me to figure it out and when I did, it was a pretty stunning moment. I simply couldn't believe that all of that fantastic imagery and excitement could come from words on a page. And the beautiful thing was, because of Cameron's informal writing style, it was very easy to see that what was on film was what he had been thinking about when he wrote the script.

That was it! That was the thing that had been missing all of my life. Here I was thinking that somehow films just... happened but no - someone came up with the idea and they wrote it down and it became something bigger and more exciting. I can say with hand on heart, that book is almost entirely responsible for directing me towards screenwriting. I still have it today and it's battered and torn and more than a little well-thumbed.

So T2 goes on the list as well.

My third choice goes to world of James Bond. I can't talk about Bond films in the same way as Jaws and T2 because they just aren't those kind of films but I have to include them on the list because they've been there since I knew what a television was and they're still with me now. I think they taught me about heroes and villains and the idea that action needs to be paced - action/drama/action/drama. I grew up with Roger Moore's efforts but certainly not exclusively and, again, they're films that I must have seen dozens of times individually.

If you’re interested in my two cents, I think On Her Majesty’s Secret Service is the best of the lot and I can honestly say I’m probably the only person in the world who doesn’t have a favourite Bond. They’re all Bond to me. I saw The Living Daylights at the cinema (a film I was actually old enough to see) and that introduction teaser in Gibraltar just had me from the opening gun barrel. As soon as Timothy Dalton turned around for his close-up he just *was* Bond. And I’d take a million Living Daylights over one Die Another Day.

Finally, I can't complete this list without including two entries from the TV world. The first would be The West Wing - a show I didn't see until many years after it was first broadcast. It was something I'd heard a lot about but didn't have the time to get into (plus the box set was damn expensive.) I was in my very early twenties by this point and firmly down the road of screenwriting with a view to possibly getting into TV writing eventually. At some point, the DVD went on sale and I bit the bullet.

Watching the pilot episode was a unique experience. I didn't understand a word of it - it may as well have been in Korean for all the plot I got out of it but there was a magical element to it that took hold of me. There was a rhythm and music to the dialogue that meant you didn't really have to know what the characters were talking about because it was just such a pleasure to listen to.

The second episode was better but still not quite there for me (I caught words like veto and caucus but was still a little lost.) Then came the third episode, A Proportional Response, which was easily one of the most amazing 40-odd minutes of television I'd ever seen. Ever. And sometimes I worry because I don't know if I'm going to have experiences like that again; where I'm so completely consumed by the story and in stunned and terrified awe of the sheer talent that’s somehow managed to come together to create it. Those moments don't seem to happen as much anymore.

Anyway, the subsequent seasons taught me an awful lot about character and dialogue and were instrumental in honing those skills in my own writing. Yeah, it dipped when Sorkin left but I think by then his influence had been so established that they were able to ride that wave until the end.

And finally, I choose 24. And I don't quite know what to say about the show except that when I have it in my life, everything feels OK. This is a show that's so extraordinarily crafted in every way that it makes me sort of shake my head in stunned silence.

It's a show that utterly consumes me when I'm into it. When I watch it on DVD, I positively devour the episodes in marathon sessions where day and night fuse into one maddening blur and there’s always time for just one more, just one more. But it's a show that taught me and continues to teach me in a very heightened way about structure and plot and about engineering and maintaining engagement levels. It's hard enough to keep an audience hooked over two hours but over 24 episodes? Sheesh. It's not everyone’s cup of tea but you should try living in the UK, enduring poorly made cop dramas and slice of life soaps. By comparison, 24 is like lining up Louis Armstrong with the Spice Girls and saying, “Take your pick.”

So those are my five. Honourable mentions for TV shows go to The Wire, The Simpsons, Frasier and The Sopranos. Honourable mentions for films go to Quentin Tarantino, Disney and Spielberg's other films - Raiders of the Lost Ark was sooooo close to being on the list.

There were other influences on me for sure. I had a wonderful lecturer at university who honed my writing in a more specific way regarding structure and pacing. He also wrote me a letter of recommendation that got me my first agent but by this point I was already very rooted in the world of screenwriting - way, way beyond the point of no return where success was, and still is, the only option.

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Thanks, Chris, that was SOOO cool.

I saw Jaws in the theatre at the age of 10. I was a very independent little girl--a real rough and tough tomboy who never got squeemish about anything, and who always laughed at the other girls at school who were so prissy and delicate and easily scared by a frog in the playground. And Jaws was the first movie that ever made me scream. I was so surprised at myself when I realized that I had just screamed for real -- screamed like a true girly-girl -- in a movie theatre. And so I knew right then I was watching a truly special film. I'll tell you the scene that made me scream.

It was when Richard Dreyfus was in his scuba gear during that night time scene in Act 2 when he and Brody found the wrecked boat. Dreyfus went under water in his scuba gear to inspect the boat and we of the audience were absolutely terrified that while he was down there the shark would get him. And what's worse is that it was night time, making the scene all the creepier. So it was a truly nail-biting scene of tension for us to watch him swimming around the damaged hull of that boat, convinced that the shark would come up at any moment. The whole audience was holding its breath at that scene. And then he found a huge nasty hole in the hull of the ship and swam to it and pulled out his knife and used the knife to dig a giant shark's tooth out of the jagged hole. Speilberg is the absolute master of misdirection, and this scene is a perfect example of his adeptness with it. We of the audience were worried about the giant shark swimmig up to Dreyfus from behind, so we had no concerns about that little tiny hole in the ship's hull, so Spielberg was masterfully misdirecting us toward the potential terrors of the ocean, NOT any terrors from that hole. But the moment of terror happened when a human head appeared in the hole, washed white in death, and its eye punctured out (possibly punctured out by one of those same giant teeth that Dreyfus was holding) and the entire theatre screamed--me right along with them. It was a REAL scream, and I was shocked at myself, stunned that the rest of the audiecne was just as scared as I was, and I was downright delighted that for the first time in my life a film actually scared me for real. And I also clicked into the fact that most of the other people in that theatre were liking it as well. This whole mater of ENJOYING being scared was suddenly fascinating to me, and especially being scared in a group setting where the whole audience is scared together and kind of winking at each other all the while.

I have since read that back in the late 70's/early 80's, Speilberg (before people knew him on sight) always made it a point to sit in the back of a crowded theatre during Jaws so he could watch the audience reaction to that one scene. He absolutely loved it when the whole house screamed at once.

That (and yes, Star Wars) were both films that helped em to love the group experience of watching a film on the big screen. So it saddens me to think that theatres are slowly fading away to be replaced by home enetrtainment systems. Those kinds of films weren't meant to be viewed alone but with a whole room full of people. The group experience of screaming all at the same time and enjoying it is something that is being lost now. And it deeply grieves me. And this kind of an expereince is part of why Spielberg and M. Night and other notables are resistant to the straight-to-DVD thing. When they craft their films, they are lovingly imagining an entire theatre of people enjoying their movies as a group, NOT some guy sitting alone with a plasma screen hitting the pause-button every time the phone rings.
 

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Oh, and the made-for-TV movie Duel was another huge influence. And at the time I was too little to even know who Spielberg was. And so it wasn't until many years later that I learned that that really cool TV movie I saw when I was a kid about the guy being chased by the truck was made by some young whipper-snapper out of film school named Spielberg.
 

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after watching pulp fiction in the 8th grade, the actual writing of the film rather than the shooting of it struck me as interesting. it was the first time i realized how much was written besides dialogue.
 

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PD - don't know if you have the Jaws DVD but there's quite a bit about the Ben Gardner's boat sequence. It seems that the first time they shot that scene, the timing with the head emerging and the music wasn't quite right. It was still scary but nowhere near the impact of the final version. I think the head appears as Dreyfuss looks behind him or something - the other version is on the DVD I think.

Anyway, Spielberg saw it and knew it could be better but by now the film was getting ready to go to print and Zanuck and Brown told him to leave it alone, it's fine, don't worry. But Spielberg being Spielberg shot it again using just that piece of the boat in the swimming pool of his editor (Verna Fields) for a couple of thousand dollars, out of his own pocket. He says on the DVD that when they showed the new version, people had the exact same reaction you did.

It's a weird scene, I think it's so impossibly well-timed that although I don't scream or anything, it does give me a chill almost every time. Good stuff!

The other scene I really enjoy in Jaws is the scene directly after that where Brody and Hooper are trying to convince the mayor to shut the beaches and all the mayor can focus on is the vandalism of the "Welcome To Amity" sign. It's another scene shot in one take with a dolly cam that keeps changing from wide to medium, to close up depending on how the actors move. It's so clever to get the actors to do the work for you like that. :)

Regards what you were saying about the resistance to straight-to-dvd, I was reading a book called The Big Picture which, although a little out of date now, made a good point which was that "Hollywood" (being the industry, studio system, above the line talent etc) would never allow that to fully happen because film premieres and the accompanying glitz and publicity is the most glamarous thing in the world and nobody wants to give that up. The book also suggested that if films were all ever to go straight-to-dvd, it would mean the end of seven figure salaries for talent because there's something about the big screen that seems to justify the exorbitant expenditure. It's almost as though, big screen=big money even though, in this day and age, most films make far more money from DVD sales and syndication rights than from the box office. It's a weird system.
 

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Just asking, did anyone notice ElaraSophia's Supermarionation and the future thread in Movies and TV forum? Maybe it's of more interest to UK members... but that's the stuff that got my brain cells fired up and pushed me towards writing. And I'm not ashamed of it. :)

Rather than consciously thinking of becoming a screenwriter, I got intro'd to screenwriting via a long-time writing buddy who had a toe in the industry (script option + friendly prodco contacts looking for new material), and who asked me to adapt a Sci-Fi short story he'd loved into a screenplay, which he almost sold for me! <insert long boring story here> Jeez, that was in... August '02.

I've been kinda lurking around forums pretending to be a screenwriter ever since.

-Derek
 

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Chris,

No I don't own the DVD (but it sounds like it's worth a look). So I never knew any of that backstory about Spielberg reshooting that one scene. He obviously knew the incredible potential that one scene had, and I guess that's why he's Stepehn Speilberg. :)

As for the glam-thing, GAWD! I hope you're right! The reasoning behind the desire to keep the big screen (according to that book you've cited) isn't as altruistic as I'd like it to be. But I guess most things come down to money now don't they.
 

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Just asking, did anyone notice ElaraSophia's Supermarionation and the future thread in Movies and TV forum? Maybe it's of more interest to UK members... but that's the stuff that got my brain cells fired up and pushed me towards writing. And I'm not ashamed of it. :)

Rather than consciously thinking of becoming a screenwriter, I got intro'd to screenwriting via a long-time writing buddy who had a toe in the industry (script option + friendly prodco contacts looking for new material), and who asked me to adapt a Sci-Fi short story he'd loved into a screenplay, which he almost sold for me! <insert long boring story here> Jeez, that was in... August '02.

I've been kinda lurking around forums pretending to be a screenwriter ever since.

-Derek


My older brother was a huge fan of the marionation thing. I would hear him in the TV room watching "Captain Scarlet" and "The Thunderbirds." And to this day I still have the theme music to those two shows memorized.

I personally never watched those shows very much myself. But I do recall two episodes. One episode took place in an arctic region and there was a scientific station elevated above the ice and there was a race against the clock with the ice freezing over. Another episode showed a heist taking place and the two thieves had to enter the vault on cables suspended above the floor. The thing I recall the most about those shows is that the marionation was so "kiddie" feeling, but the scripts had a very sophisticated and adult feel to them (part of why I probably didn't watch them, it was to real for my five-year-old sensibilities). I also recall "the Mysterions" and the slowly migrating lights that drifted through a room whenever "the voice of the Mysterions" was heard. To this day, whenver I see a contemporary movie/TV show where the little tiny red dots of light from a rifle's laser-site are zeroing in on someone's foreheard, I always think of the lights of the Mysterions drifting through the room in an episode of Capatin Scarlet.

When the Thunderbirds movie came out three or four years ago I was very dismayed that they chose to do it with live actors instead of marionation (and little kids played the Tracy brothers instead of adult men). That whole project was handled so poorly. The film bombed also. By jettisoning the marionation, they failed to capture the ethos of the original series, even though all the trapings of the script dared to invoke that ethos.
 

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Just asking, did anyone notice ElaraSophia's Supermarionation and the future thread in Movies and TV forum? Maybe it's of more interest to UK members... but that's the stuff that got my brain cells fired up and pushed me towards writing. And I'm not ashamed of it. :)

Rather than consciously thinking of becoming a screenwriter, I got intro'd to screenwriting via a long-time writing buddy who had a toe in the industry (script option + friendly prodco contacts looking for new material), and who asked me to adapt a Sci-Fi short story he'd loved into a screenplay, which he almost sold for me! <insert long boring story here> Jeez, that was in... August '02.

I've been kinda lurking around forums pretending to be a screenwriter ever since.

-Derek

I was a fan of Thunderbirds and the underwater submarine one... Jesus what was that called? Stingray. I remember Terrahawks being on CITV at some point but any further recollection is really going to start showing my age so I'm going to claim no further knowledge of any of it. :)

What I love about those shows is that they take themselves completely seriously. Aside from the puppetry and goofy tail end skits most of them have, the scripts could easily come from any modern-day live action sci-fi show. Certainly a lot better than Space 1999 which I thought was the closest thing to a live action Suprmarionation show.

And yes, the Thunderbirds live action flick was awful. I met an associate producer of that film about five months before the launch who said if it did well (which they thought it would) it would be the start of a big franchise for them. Sadly wasn't to be. It was far too kiddy for my liking.
 

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I wouldn't really say it was a person or movie or show that got me interested in screenwriting. It was me. I will never forget when I realized what my imagination was telling me.

I was on a Fourm, making up a story as I posted in the writers section. I had just finished reading The Cross and the Switchblade(Reverand Davd Wilkerson) and Run Baby Run (Nicky Cruz), both were stories of revival and conversion in New York City Ghettos in the 60's-70's. The Ghettos were fresh on my mind, and so were the descriptions and images the book gave me. Thus, I was basing my story around the Ghettos, using some of the same words the authors used.

I figured it might end up being a long story, maybe a novel, if I gave it some time. But as I was about to post, I wasn't very confidant. It seemed short and lacking. So I figured I'd lengthen and then post it later.

But something happened. Whenever I write it is always like this. I see everything. I see the characters speaking, the surroundings, I see their faces, I speak out their conversations to make them flow. But, I don't always feel, so I've had trouble conveying emotional words. Sometimes I hear music, but only rarely. That's when it clicked.

This story is too good to be just a book or short story. It deserves the screen. The voice of Virago should be heard all across the world. Her pain should be seen and felt. I need to learn to write screenplays.

Thus, I have been. It's almost as if I'm constantly learning about screenwriting. Always something new. Joining here has helped, and I plan to enroll in College next year; majoring in English, and continuing to learn everything I can about writing.

There you have it, my defining momemnt that took place a little over a year ago.

-Ed Faris.